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The presidents had gathered around the body of Richard Nixon. This was the second death since the dozen of them had gotten pulled into this crazy dimension, removed from space and time. The first to go had been William Henry Harrison, and everybody had assumed that had simply been natural causes. Nixon's death however, this was clearly no accident. Someone, or someones, was out to winnow the ranks. It was time for a reckoning. Lynch until the killings stop. Brutal, but effective.

Reminder, read the rules if you have not already.

[spoiler=Rules]Rules

1) Have fun.

2) Be active.

3) Play to your win condition.

4) This game is NOC. All communications must done in the game thread and the Role PMs. Nowhere else.

5) Every user has a Role PM. It will tell you your character, your role, your alliance, and your win conditions.

The following is an exhaustive list of possible roles:

Town Cop

Town Doctor

Town Vanilla

Town Death Miller

Mafia Snitch

Mafia Night Action Cop

Mafia Alliance Cop

Mafia Vanilla

The game composition is: Town Doctor, Town Cop, 4 Town Vanilla, 2 Town Death Miller, and 2 Mafia from among the possible Mafia roles.

Death Millers reveal as Death Miller if night killed, but as one of the possible Mafia roles if lynched.

See the below spoiler for the fulltext of the role PMs. (Flavor name and username omitted, obviously.)

6) No Lynch may be lynched once and only once, and can only be lynched on a day announced as Potential MyLO.

The following is an exhaustive list of Potential MyLO scenarios:

Six players remain, no revealed mafia flips, no revealed death miller flips.

Six players remain, no revealed mafia flips, one revealed death miller flips.

Six players remain, no revealed mafia flips, two revealed death miller flips.

Six players remain, one revealed mafia flips, no revealed death miller flips.

Six players remain, two revealed mafia flips, no revealed death miller flips.

Six players remain, one revealed mafia flips, one revealed death miller flips.

Four players remain, three revealed mafia flips, no revealed death miller flips.

Four players remain, two revealed mafia flips, no revealed death miller flips.

Four players remain, two revealed mafia flips, one revealed death miller flips.

Four players remain, one revealed mafia flips, no revealed death miller flips.

Four players remain, one revealed mafia flips, one revealed death miller flips.

Four players remain, one revealed mafia flips, two revealed death miller flips.

Four players remain, no revealed mafia flips, two revealed death miller flips.

Four players remain, no revealed mafia flips, one revealed death miller flips.

7) Day phase voting must take place in a ##Vote: USER format.

7a) A user will be Hammered when they have the majority of votes on them.

7b) There will not be any grace period. Do not post after Hammer until Host sees and updates the thread.

7c) If the day ends without anyone having reached Hammer, Host discretion will determine how the game proceeds.

8) Inspection results are not necessarily accurate.

9) The game will begin with Day 1.

10) Day Phases will last 48 hours, with a limit of one 24 hour extension per day.

10a) Extensions must be requested for by at least 30% of the game's current living members.

11) Night Phases will last 24 hours, with no extension available.

11a) If you anticipate missing a Night Phase, PM the host with your desired action in the preceding Day Phase.

12) There are no hidden players.

13) When in doubt, ask the host.

[spoiler=Roles]

TOWN ROLES

Dear User,

You are [President], the Town Cop.

During the Night Phase you may reply to your Role PM with "Night X: Inspecting USER".

If you survive the night, during the start of the next Day Phase I will reply to your Role PM with the result.

Results will be either “You suspect USER is sided with the mafia.” or “You suspect USER is sided with the town.”

You are allied with the Town, and win when you have lynched all members of the mafia.

Dear User,

You are [President], the Town Doctor.

During the Night Phase you may reply to your Role PM with "Night X: Giving USER a check-up".

USER cannot be yourself, and if USER was the target of the night kill, you will instead save their life.

You are allied with the Town, and win when you have lynched all members of the mafia.

Dear User,

You are [President], the Town Vanilla.

You have no Night Phase actions, and thus must make the most of your voice and your vote during the Day Phase.

You are allied with the Town, and win when you have lynched all members of the mafia.

Dear User,

You are [President], the Town Vanilla.

You have no Night Phase actions, and thus must make the most of your voice and your vote during the Day Phase.

You are allied with the Town, and win when you have lynched all members of the mafia.


You are actually [President], the Town Death Miller.

You appear to be allied with the Mafia to investigations.

If you are killed at night your role PM will be revealed in its entirety.

If you are lynched at day, the following role PM will be revealed during the flip.

A Mafia Role PM

MAFIA ROLES

You are [President], the Mafia Vanilla.

You have no Night Phase actions, and thus must make the most of your voice and your vote during the Day Phase.

You are allied with the Mafia, and win when you eliminate the Town or nothing can stop such an occurrence from happening.

Dear User,

You are [President], the Mafia Snitch.

At the beginning of the Night Phase you will receive the Role of the user casting the Hammer Vote in the previous day's lynch. If the Hammer Vote was cast by a member of the mafia, you will instead receive the Role of the latest non-Mafia vote on the Hammered wagon.

You are allied with the Mafia, and win when you eliminate the Town or nothing can stop such an occurrence from happening.

You are [President], the Mafia Night Action Cop.

During the Night Phase you may reply to your Role PM with "Night X: Stalking USER".

USER must not be a member of the Mafia, and during the start of the next Day Phase I will reply to your Role PM with your target's available Night Actions.

Results will be either “USER can Inspect at night.”, “USER can Give a Check-up at night.”, or “USER has no night actions.”

You are allied with the Mafia, and win when you eliminate the Town or nothing can stop such an occurrence from happening.

Dear User,

You are [President], the Mafia Alliance Cop.

During the Night Phase you may reply to your Role PM with "Night X: Inspecting USER".

During the start of the next Day Phase I will reply to your Role PM with the result.

Results will be either “You suspect USER is sided with the mafia.” or “You suspect USER is sided with the town.”

You are allied with the Mafia, and win when you eliminate the Town or nothing can stop such an occurrence from happening.

Players:

01. Petrichor

02. Doormat

03. Saya Nougat Caramuta

04. Aniki RIP, dead N1

05. Marlowe RIP, lynched D1

06. Cristina Kirchner RIP, lynched D2

07. Obama

08. Return of the Dragon

09. Moriarty RIP, dead N2

10. Oserckalb

Links to happenings:

Day 2 begins

Day 3 begins

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##Vote: Return of the Dragon

Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong door. The leather club's two blocks down.

I think the cop should strip as soon as possible and reveal his identity right here in the ring. Mafia has no roleblocker or strongman, so it guarantees we pull off at least one investigation; more if scum fails to immediately NK the doc. Even though investigation results aren't 100% accurate, a town scan is a guaranteed innocent due to the lack of a Godfather, and the cop himself nets us a town clear as soon as he claims. Also, if we have the cop hammer every day after that claim, it'll make it impossible for the Snitch to out the doc.

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A mafia investigation isn't a total waste of an investigation since we can game it after a few scumflips, particularly if death millers get NKed.

If you wanna argue that scum might luck out and NK the doc N1 (they'll need luck if the cop hammers) then I'll point out that if the cop doesn't claim then we're vulnerable to scum NKing it N1 if they do a good job hunting for PRs anyway. Also, if the cop's cool and out of the closet then that gets us a confirmed town voice D1 which is always useful.

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Another problem could be the mafia claiming cop and then we all end up rallying behind the mafia which creates problems of its own.

If some jabroni wants to pretend he's the cop then we have guaranteed scum between two players once he gets counterclaimed, and if we lynch the scum instead of the cop then well that's just fuckin' fabulous for us.

Otherwise we trade the cop for a guaranteed scum lynch and a bunch of associative tells based on who voted the real cop, which actually isn't so bad.

Where's your vote?

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I'm holding the vote until more people talk unless there's been some sort of rule against it? I'm not too familiar with how you all do this.

But it won't necessarily be associative votes because townspeople will be taking a shot in the dark meaning if you hammer you run some risks that are associated with the counterclaim situation.

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It's a viable plan. Until the mafia can narrow down who the doc is, all protection is on the cop for the duration of the game, or at least for as long as the doc is alive. We will not have to worry about our cop dying, and the cop may then freely lead us with their investigations.

However, there are quite a few reasons why it is not the best course of action. For one, if the mafia does happen to weed out the doc through investigation or they just get lucky, we're fucked out of a cop and a doc. Second, if the mafia assumes that the doc is going to be only on the cop the entire time, they get safe kills on people that they know will not be protected. Third, I am not exactly pleased with the follow-the-cop mentality that this type of strategy will encourage. We need to all work together rather than rely on our cop.

I feel there may be more I had to say on the matter, though I cannot recall.

I do enjoy the intentions of the plan; however, the risks incorporated with it deter me somewhat from putting the idea in practice. I feel it is up to our cop whether they wish to take the gamble, though.

I do not feel malign intentions from either Doormat or Aniki for now, so ##Vote: Obama You should vote.

I say this because both seem to have the town's best intentions in mind. Aniki wants our cop to be safe, while Doormat would rather the cop keep quiet and hide himself. If anything, Doormat's jumpiness might raise a few eyebrows.

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Votes and joke bandwagons tend to get people to talk, and we only have 48 hours of discussion.

Granted it might be more ideal for the cop to wait until D1 progresses a little so that we have more to go on when deciding who's scum if there's a counterclaim.

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cop could out themselves day 1 and be relatively safe, but i don't think it's worth anything, having a pseudoconfirmed day 1 before anything has happened means virtually nothing. i wouldn't mind so much if it was day 2 and they had some results, but outing themselves right now seems pretty pointless and just makes the mafia's job much easier

@Obama, voting random people generally doesn't amount to much these days but it's more "i'm voting x for a stupid reason" until something happens that spurs discussion. nobody ever gets hammered in rvs, people aren't that nuts.

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Ahhh, right . . . mafia could take up the claim if they wanted. I would rather the cop risk it out for at least a night, until they at least have an investigation to work off of--especially an incriminating one.

I'm not too familiar with how you all do this.

This statement is . . . rather a stock phrase and a common scum defense. I do not trust players who put up fronts like this.

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Ahhh, right . . . mafia could take up the claim if they wanted. I would rather the cop risk it out for at least a night, until they at least have an investigation to work off of--especially an incriminating one.

This statement is . . . rather a stock phrase and a common scum defense. I do not trust players who put up fronts like this.

I wouldn't resort to stock phrases if I were familiar with this.

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You do not have to pull that as a defense. It sounds as if you're saying, "Go easy on me, I'm new/not certain how this all works/confused." It is an easy tactic to keep the heat off of yourself.

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Perhaps I should specify that I haven't played on SF very recently and while I was around people generally didn't go with this vote immediately to prompt discussion on a wide scale.

Aniki's plan doesn't really excite me at all but I don't generally hammer down people for their language though Petrichor is far more aggressive than what I've seen to be normal.

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