Pride Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) the events as reported by the L.A times if you're curious I encourage you to look up other sources, especially regarding the so-called manifesto, of which there seem to be several variations floating about This is a pretty novel case in that the killer is highly trained and his motivation seems to be killing officers instead of escaping. The police are very much on-edge as indicated with the incident where the two paper-delivery women were shot at. He's obviously lost it, but there are some people out there who sympathize with his stated hatred of police corruption, and the case that started his grudge back in 2007. I'm interested in how it'll all play out. After you've caught up on all the relevant info I'm curious, what are your thoughts on the man, the murders, and the police response? Edited February 8, 2013 by Wahrheit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constable Reggie Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I think California's police is second only to New York's in terms of stupidity, douchebaggery and incompetence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK-201 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I guess my first question would be: What do you think should be the price of corruption? I think it's a very weird issue, on one hand there's a clear violation going on that probably isn't going to be addressed in the status quo without intervention but at the same time his idea of justice can be seen as a bit extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I think the media needs to butt out, except to warn people of the affected counties to stay alert. The more interference there is, the less likely he'll be flushed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I think that my gut likes the idea of vigilante justice when faced with rampant corruption, but the fact of the matter is that he's a murderer who killed three innocent people and thus needs to be locked away. If the LAPD's that corrupt, though, it needs reformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constable Reggie Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) Apparently over 100 officers were employed to try and find him. Amazing. You can't trust the police to help you in your own time of need, but if they themselves are threatened, by goddamn they'll do everything they can to catch the culprit. Good ol' LAPD, serving and protecting the people themselves. Edited February 9, 2013 by Constable Reggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) I'm almost surprised that Dorner is the first guy I've heard of snapping like this in his department, if the corruption is (and has been) as bad as Dorner and some commenters claimed. His actions (the murders, certainly) are nothing to cheer about, but it'd be nice if the climate that drove Dorner so far doesn't get left to lie as it is as soon as the hunt is over, or anything forbid it get even worse. Edited February 13, 2013 by Rehab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 From a barely educated (on whatever the hell went on) perspective, people who appear to have been something like good, and then mess up...badly. Those people make me question my faith in humanity. Hmm. I guess for other people that kind of sentiment is in tatters anyway? That's fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbus Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Very few middle class white men hate the police more than I do, but when you kill people - people whose only real offense is that they're shitty cops and scummy people - and carjack innocent civilians, I tend to lose my sympathy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Very few middle class white men hate the police more than I do, but when you kill people - people whose only real offense is that they're shitty cops and scummy people - and carjack innocent civilians, I tend to lose my sympathy. I'll admit that a part of me does like the idea of a vigilante going after corrupt organizations like the LAPD. I wouldn't have disliked the guy so much for carjacking, so much as murdering people. I mean it would be one thing if he were to actually go after corrupt individuals, but in reality all of the people he killed were completely unrelated. If he were really planning on going after the LAPD by killing all of the corrupt officers he probably would have been better off not making a huge manifesto about it. Although he clearly had flown off the handle, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constable Reggie Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Dorner's killing of innocents was terrible, yeah, but I feel what's more significant in all this is Lapd's pathetic and dangerous handling of the situation. Putting three completely innocent civilians in huge danger (for the capital offense of having a truck looking very vaguely similar to Dorner's) and lying about how they handled the cabin situation is unsettling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbus Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Let's not forget the use of a MILITARY DRONE to track him down, which opens up Pandora's Box in terms of citizen monitoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redturtle806 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Well the LAPD is notoriously corrupt, I wouldn't be surprised if they framed the guy to cover up something else. I don't like how they supposedly killed him by torching the cabin and everything in it. I don't like that resolution at all. Wouldn't be surprised if the guy is still on the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbus Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 It's official: Chris Dorner died in that barn They burned him alive. Cowards. And I was in no way supporting Dorner. Let's see them get this into it the next time a little black girl dies from a drive-by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Let's not forget the use of a MILITARY DRONE to track him down, which opens up Pandora's Box in terms of citizen monitoring. Is this true? I'd been told that what many were referring to a drone was in actuality a helicopter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 It's official: Chris Dorner died in that barnThey burned him alive. Cowards. Thing is, according to his autopsy report, Dorner died of a single gunshot wound in his head, that appears to be self-inflicted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Maybe he wouldn't have killed himself if the police didn't burn his cabin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constable Reggie Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2278338/Christopher-Dorner-No-1-2million-reward-leading-cops-fugitive-ex-cop.html Good ol' Lapd using semantic utter bullshit for personal benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2278338/Christopher-Dorner-No-1-2million-reward-leading-cops-fugitive-ex-cop.html Good ol' Lapd using semantic utter bullshit for personal benefit. I wanted to say "un-fucking believable," but that would imply that this is something unexpected of the LAPD. Just goes to show that even after such incredibly crazy shit nothing will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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