SSB4: SSB for Wii U and 3DS, maybe the NX and also your toaster!

[euklyd]

I find it disappointing that a large part of nintendo's strategy for buffing characters is pretty much just giving them a hoo-hah.

a hoo-hah that you can't even DI; you could definitely DI diddy's

[Jedi]

a hoo-hah that you can't even DI; you could definitely DI diddy's

Yeah, they made Bowser uthrow have like no knockback scaling.

Although they did Buff Shulk fairly ok, he needs less lag though :< DEM START UPS ARE STILL MEH.

[euklyd]

just make his fthrow a zss dsmash #sakuraibalancing

[Jedi]

just make his fthrow a zss dsmash #sakuraibalancing

THE BOWSER STUNNER.

O were you talking about Shulk, because I just imagined Bowser doing a Stone Cold Stunner and it was amazing.

[Great Geargia Gateway]

I remember Etika saying something among his top 5 best and worst things, that the buffs this update are completely in the wrong positions. Robin got buffs in places it didn't need too much. Robin needed more speed man. Mewtwo got more movement speed, but nothing game breaking like Grab combo's or anything. But the worst is Zelda and Samus not getting anything at all. Zelda needs buffs, and Samus just needs fixes on hit boxes and visual effects.
I hope in Feb, another patch comes and characters get buffed again, also hope nothing happens to Cloud.

[Jedi]

I hope in Feb, another patch comes and characters get buffed again, also hope nothing happens to Cloud.

I'd like his Down Smash to actually work properly and not be techable thanks.

[solrocknroll]

this isn't particularly relevant but i really wish that Robin was instead Chrom

I mean

chrom's model looks superb and he's my favorite lord and sadness

[Jedi]

Looks like Cloud has Tourney results already.

[Knife]

Speaking of Cloud, check out my set with Void's (#1 Sheik in SoCal) Cloud against my Link.

http://www.twitch.tv/2ggaming/v/31194349

Start at 1:31:45, watch the whole set its hype.

Edited December 25, 2015 by Knife

[Jedi]

Speaking of Cloud, check out my set with Void's (#1 Sheik in SoCal) Cloud against my Link.

http://www.twitch.tv/2ggaming/v/31194349

Start at 1:31:45, watch the whole set its hype.

I'll watch in a bit, how're you liking Link's buffs? Euk's caught me with the new fair a number of times already and its so strong now.

[Knife]

It's not a game changer or anything, but it is nice. He honestly could use better start up data (his endlag on his moves are actually really good except for grab and dair), but extra kill move? I take.

Some other characters could use a lot more attention than him tho.

Edited December 25, 2015 by Knife

[Jedi]

I think both Link and Shulk need some better start up, cross fingers for the Corrin/Bayo update I guess?

[Carmine Sword]

All I want for Christmas is less start-up lag for Shulk.

[Jedi]

I appreciate him having less landing lag on his aerials, I can actually go for grabs out of nair's now

[Carmine Sword]

I can't even get the update since I don't have any room left on my SD card.

[Jedi]

Oh no :(

If I had an extra i'd send it to you

[euklyd]

Speaking of Cloud, check out my set with Void's (#1 Sheik in SoCal) Cloud against my Link.

http://www.twitch.tv/2ggaming/v/31194349

Start at 1:31:45, watch the whole set its hype.

damn that was a nice set

those jab2 -> utilts / grabs were very nice, I need to work on those more

also I hadn't thought of using dsmash2 to catch cloud's recovery; I'll try to implement that vs Jedi

I thought your tag was still "Knife" though?

[HK Motendra]

I can't even get the update since I don't have any room left on my SD card.

This has been a thing for my brother since like.... Roy's announcement. Tis a shame really, cause because of that, he doesn't really play the game anymore

[Knife]

damn that was a nice set

those jab2 -> utilts / grabs were very nice, I need to work on those more

also I hadn't thought of using dsmash2 to catch cloud's recovery; I'll try to implement that vs Jedi

I thought your tag was still "Knife" though?

Jab jab grab is pretty reliable on Cloud, but some other characters its not. Also, use more utilt as a tomahawk option, its so good and leads into uairs.

I also go by Kila.

[Jedi]

Great set Knife, how do you think the MU is overall?

[Knife]

It feel pretty even. I never felt too bad throughout the set except for game 1 when he ended me with finishing touch. He also has no experience against combat intensive Links so idk if that played a factor. This was the only "good" Cloud I've played, the rest were just flat out worse players than me. Though my win rate with Link vs Cloud is 100% ATM. Too early to really say, but again I at least feel Link doesn't lose this.

Specific MU stuff? From Link's perspective:

-Jab x2 into grab works very well against him

-Utilt > uair works very well

-Can be gimped while recovering with dsmash 2 or dtilt

-Link gets juggled really hard by Cloud's uair (who doesn't tho)

-Can force limit charging to stop by charging an arrow for pressure or just throwing alot of projectiles in general

Edited December 25, 2015 by Knife

[euklyd]

Is there just never a reason to pursue offstage because we can gimp for free with dtilt / dsmash2?

[Knife]

Unless they recover high, there's honestly no reason to risk it and go offstage, assuming you are good at timing the dsmash 2/dtilt.

[FluffyWarlock]

Anyone knows to who all those of Corrin's alternate color palletes refer to? I know they refer to someone in Fates, but still...

[The DanMan]

Completely unrelated, but it appears that the revisionists over at neogaf have now warped the general opinion from "the competitive fanbase wasn't the biggest fan of Brawl" to "Brawl was all-round shit and reviewed poorly (despite having the highest metascore in the series at 93).

There's your joke for the day.