Tryhard Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 (edited) anyway, NPD data shows FE7 did 331k, so either the rest of North America contributed 160k (LOLOLOL) or vgchartz is bullshitting again (the obvious answer) wait no, that's 331k for all of North America, Vincent says he has 256k for US only aka NPD data (dunno where he got that though) fair enough. Sales alone does not grant a guarantee character spot. Also, Smash Bros. is not a popularity contest. I wasn't trying to say it was, personally. I just find it disingenuous to say that Ike is the most popular lord in the west, and it annoys me. Are we just meant to drop all notion of game sales, then? I'm not trying to say Chrom is definitely going to get in over Ike. After all, this is Sakurai. Edited July 5, 2013 by Kelsper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ercdouken Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I am aware that characters have gotten in the game because of requests. However, not every character in Smash Bros. is a character people wanted. Sakurai has said that requesting only for popular characters doesn't get him excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I wasn't trying to say it was, personally. I just find it disingenuous to say that Ike is the most popular lord in the west, and it annoys me. Are we just meant to drop all notion of game sales, then? I'm not trying to say Chrom is definitely going to get in over Ike. After all, this is Sakurai. well clearly Star Fox should have more reps than Fire Emblem because......um......I'm sure there's something out there....not sales..... yeah of course not, when has anyone let facts get in the way of their argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 well clearly Star Fox should have more reps than Fire Emblem because......um......I'm sure there's something out there....not sales..... yeah of course not, when has anyone let facts get in the way of their argument I dunno go ask Sakurai or something Anna for SSB4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelato Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I am aware that characters have gotten in the game because of requests. However, not every character in Smash Bros. is a character people wanted. Sakurai has said that requesting only for popular characters doesn't get him excited. Hence why I said popularity is not the only factor that is considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Hence why I said popularity is not the only factor that is considered. Shulk for SSB4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Oh hey Habanero! I wasn't expecting to see you around here. [i'm Jedisupersonic on SmashBoards obviously].I'd like to say Roy has a good shot of returning personally because not only is he popular in Japan but he is pretty popular everywhere as well. Plus the Japanese really love FE6. Unlike alot of people on this board. Also judging from Bowser and Pit's changes he'd get revamped a fair bit. If I had my way he'd have a flame projectial, some wide sweeping blows. Along with some Iaido. [i mean look at his Sword of Seals Crit animation]. Shulk for SSB4 Shulk has a good shot in my honest opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Marth and two of Ike/Roy/Chrom is what I think we'll get. All three have their own merits, but there's not enough time to develop all three of them while still keeping a universally balanced roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Marth and two of Ike/Roy/Chrom is what I think we'll get. All three have their own merits, but there's not enough time to develop all three of them while still keeping a universally balanced roster. Sounds like a logical possiblity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 (edited) Marth and two of Ike/Roy/Chrom is what I think we'll get. All three have their own merits, but there's not enough time to develop all three of them while still keeping a universally balanced roster. probably Marth/Chrom/(Ike) although Lucina being in the game (especially at Marth's expense, by some miracle) would make election night tears look like NOTHING also go Shulk, Monado Buster scrubs like Mario to death Edited July 5, 2013 by shadykid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelato Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Oh hey Habanero! I wasn't expecting to see you around here. [i'm Jedisupersonic on SmashBoards obviously].Technically I'd be called Gelato around these parts (yes it's contrasting), but yes hello it's nice to see you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Technically I'd be called Gelato around these parts (yes it's contrasting), but yes hello it's nice to see you. hey what is this, the smashboards meet up thread? quick PKL what's your account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) Technically I'd be called Gelato around these parts (yes it's contrasting), but yes hello it's nice to see you. Haha, ok then hello Gelato. Also I just have something to add for people unsure of which FE's are most notable in Japan. [Which adds into the whole speculation on who may have chances] mk2 (the largest Japanese game fan review website):FE10: Radiant Dawn (overall points of 75, Grade of A) http://wiimk2.net/title.php?title=227 FE5: Thracia 776 (overall points of 82, no letter grade due to receiving very few reviews): http://vc.wiimk2.net/title.php?title=540 FE4: Seisen no Keifu (overall points of 75, letter grade of C, curving for letter grades is harsher for VC titles): http://vc.wiimk2.net/title.php?title=279 FE3: Monsho no Nazo (overall points of 71, letter grade of C, curving for letter grades is harsher for VC titles): http://vc.wiimk2.net/title.php?title=276 FE9: Path of Radiance (overall points of 73, letter grade of A): http://gcmk2.net/rpg/fireemblemsouen.html FE6: Fuuin no Tsurigi (overall points of 78, letter grade of A): http://gba-mk2.com/srpg/fire.html FE7: Rekka no Ken (overall points of 78, letter grade of A): http://gba-mk2.com/srpg/fire2/index.html FE8: Sacred Stones (overall points of 65, letter grade of C): http://gba-mk2.com/srpg/fire3.html FE12: Shin Monsho no Nazo (overall points of 75, letter grade of A): http://ndsmk2.net/title.php?title=1988 FE11: Shadow Dragon (overall points of 60, letter grade of C): http://ndsmk2.net/title.php?title=1017 FE13: Awakening: (overall points of 69, letter grade of B): http://ndsmk2.net/3ds/title.php?title=233 Famitsu score for the entire series in general Awakening - 36 * New Mystery of the Emblem - 34 * Shadow Dragon - 34 * Radiant Dawn - 33 * Path of Radiance - 34 * The Sacred Stones - 35 * Blazing Sword - 34 * Sword of Seals - 36 * Thracia 776 - 35 * Genealogy of the Holy War - 31 * Mystery of the Emblem - 36 Edited July 6, 2013 by Jedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) ...Ike's games rated higher than Marth's AND Chrom's, yet the Japanese dislike Ike, but like Marth and Chrom. These guys are weird. xP Talking about the first set, of course. The second set still has Ike's games higher than Mystery of the Emblem and much of the rest of the series though. o.O Edited July 6, 2013 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) Metacritic also gives Awakening the highest score of the whole series (granted this only covers FE7-11 and 13) we can play the data game all day long, it's not gonna favor Ike at least the first guys give FE10 a better score than FE9 here's metacritic: FE13-92 FE7-88 FE8-85 FE9-85 FE11-81 FE10-78 (ok this one is BS, I agree) Edited July 6, 2013 by shadykid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelato Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 ...Ike's games rated higher than Marth's AND Chrom's, yet the Japanese dislike Ike, but like Marth and Chrom. These guys are weird. xP Actually, the Japanese do like Ike decently, though that character is generally more of a case of Germans Love David Hasselhoff. Generally the concise among Lords in the franchise is that the Japanese tend to favor the weaker Lords in the series like Marth, Roy, and Leif, while fans in the west prefer the stronger Lords like Ike and Sigurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Actually, the Japanese do like Ike decently, though that character is generally more of a case of Germans Love David Hasselhoff. Generally the concise among Lords in the franchise is that the Japanese tend to favor the weaker Lords in the series like Marth, Roy, and Leif, while fans in the west prefer the stronger Lords like Ike and Sigurd. *and Americans Hate Tingle, for the other side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelato Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 *and Americans Hate Tingle, for the other side That does not even make a lick of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 That does not even make a lick of sense. what? you've never heard of that? start a Tingle poll, I bet someone who shall not be named will vote in favor of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelato Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 what? you've never heard of that? start a Tingle poll, I bet someone who shall not be named will vote in favor of him Judging by the statement you've mentioned above, it seems like you don't have any idea what you're even saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Judging by the statement you've mentioned above, it seems like you don't have any idea what you're even saying. what are you saying now you mentioned how Japan prefers "weaker" lords, the term I mentioned is basically the reverse where Japan doesn't like the more "badass" lords while the west does (i.e. Hector, Ike) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 yeah, and then you lost everyone when you brought up Tingle. >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) FINE http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AmericansHateTingle OP, pls tag Chrom Edited July 6, 2013 by shadykid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelato Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) what are you saying now you mentioned how Japan prefers "weaker" lords, the term I mentioned is basically the reverse where Japan doesn't like the more "badass" lords while the west does (i.e. Hector, Ike) Except that's not even a case of Americans Hate Tingle if your referring to the character from the prospective of their home country. Both Americans Hate Tingle and Germans Hate David Hasselhoff refer to the reception characters received outside of the country they were originally made in. Saying that Ike is less popular in Japan being a case of Americans Hate Tingle is incorrect. Edited July 6, 2013 by Gelato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) how much rage is there if one (or more) of Waluigi/Ridley/Toad get in discuss (btw I was talking about Roy not Ike with that) Edited July 6, 2013 by shadykid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.