Randa Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) Fe9 rules: Drafting: 1. This draft is for 4 players. Players will each draft a team of 9 2. Ike, Titania, and one of Tibarn, Naesala or Giffca are free for all to use. 3. Nasir and Ena will be drafted as a pair. 4. The game will be played on Fixed Hard Mode. 5. Reyson is banned( might be free I'll think about it in the morning. Rules: 1. Undrafted units may recruit characters, Rescue and Shove/Smite undrafted characters and NPCs, trade, Escape, and dig up items in the desert. 2. Undrafted units may not do anything not listed above, including but not limited to meatshielding, building Supports, opening Doors and Chests, and Arriving. 3. There are limits to how much BEXP may be used, and this is explained in detail below. 4. Partner and Other units may do as they please without penalty. 5. Defend chapters count the last played Player Phase for turns if the timer is waited out. 6. Chapter 27, Part 2 is not counted for final turncounts. Penalties: 1. Undrafted units have a 4 turn penalty, per unit per chapter (Chapter 17 counts as 4 chapters). Exceptions: 1. Reyson and Janaff/Ulki may be used to obtain the Knight Ring if undrafted. They may not perform any other disallowed actions without penalty. BEXP Limits: 1. Use the table below to determine how much BEXP you're allowed to give your units when you're first able to give them BEXP. Characters are listed as either a level (such as 10/--) or an amount (such as 2.xx). You may use BEXP to get them to the level shown or give them the amount shown (Example: 2.xx would mean you're allowed to cap off their current level, then give them 2 more levels). 2. At the beginning of each chapter, you may give your units 50 EXP worth of BEXP. 3. Once you reach Endgame, you may distribute BEXP freely to whomever you wish. 4. Titania may not be given BEXP until Endgame. Ike: +0.xx Boyd: +0.xx Oscar: +0.xx Rhys: +4.xx Soren: +3.xx Mia: +3.xx Ilyana: +3.xx Rolf: +7.xx Mist: +6.xx Marcia: +2.xx Lethe: +0.00 Mordecai: +0.00 Volke: 12/-- Kieran: 13/-- Brom: 12/-- Nephenee: 10/-- Zihark: +1.xx Sothe: 09/-- Jill: +2.xx Astrid: +5.xx Gatrie: +2.xx Makalov: +3.xx Stefan: +0.00 Tormod: 14/-- Muarim: +0.00 Devdan: +1.xx Tanith: +0.00 Reyson: +0.00 Janaff: --/10 Ulki: --/10 Shinon: +6.xx Calill: --/08 Tauroneo: +1.xx Ranulf: --/12 Haar: +1.xx Lucia: +3.xx Bastian: +3.xx Geoffrey: --/13 Largo: --/10 Elincia: --/07 Ena: --/15 Teams: b. PKL: Marcia, Mordecai, Lethe, Soren, Shinon, Astrid, Elincia, Nephenee, Rolf a. Doofina: Marcia, Mist, Tanith, Tormod, Maurim, Sothe, Ulki, Zihark, Bastian d. Chiki: Jill, Oscar, Boyd, Rhys, Volke, Calill, Largo, Ranulf, Lucia c. Randa: Jill, Kieran, Ilyana, Gatrie, Brom, Makalov, Mia, Geoffery, Tauroneo Units remaining The rest of the units are banned. Fe10 rules: Drafting: 1. This draft is for 4 players. Each player only gets 9 units drafted the undrafted units are banned. 2. Ike, Micaiah, Sothe, Geoffrey, the Herons, the Black Knight, and Lehran are free for all to use. 3. The drafting order is reversed for the last round of picks. 4. Haar is banned from drafting. 5. The game will be played on Normal Mode. Rules: 1. Undrafted units may recruit characters, Rescue and Shove/Smite undrafted characters and NPCs, trade, Escape/Arrive, and transfer items/skills between teams. 2. Undrafted units may not do anything not listed above, including but not limited to meatshielding, building Supports, opening Doors and Chests, finding hidden items, and giving Blood Tide/Night Tide/White Pool bonuses. 3. Allied and Other units may do as they please without penalty. 4. Defend chapters count the last played Player Phase for turns if the timer is waited out. Penalties: 1. Undrafted units have a 4 turn penalty, per unit per chapter (1-6 counts as 2 chapters, and 4-E counts as 5 chapters). Exceptions: 1. One of Edward or Nolan is free for each of 1-P, 1-1 and 1-2. 2. Volug is free for 1-5. 3. Elincia, Marcia and Nealuchi are free for 2-P 4. Nephenee and Brom are free for 2-1. 5. One undrafted, non-Lucia unit is free for 2-2. 6. One undrafted, 7 move unit is free for 3-1. 7. One undrafted, 6 move unit is free for 3-3. 8. 2-1 and 3-P are both free up to 15 turns. Teams: b. Quint: Titania, Marcia, Ilyana, Zihark, Calill, Mia, Makalov, Mordecai, Rolf a. CR: Edward, Gatrie, Elincia, Soren, Sigrun, Laura, Heather, Astrid, Ulki d. Bearclaw: Jill, Boyd, Volug, Nephenee, Janaff, Nailah, Naesala, Tibarn, Leonardo c. Turtle: Nolan, Oscar, Shinon, Tanith, Kieran, Aran, Lucia, Nealuchi, Rhys (units remaining) All undrafted units are banned. Edited July 5, 2013 by Randa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 In for FE10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) So as shown above this is a tag team draft for fe9 and FE10. If you want to do this please state which game you would like to do the teams will be rng'd Teams FE9 b. PKL: Marcia, Mordecai, Lethe, Soren, Shinon, Astrid, Elincia, Nephenee, Rolf a. Doofina: Marcia, Mist, Tanith, Tormod, Maurim, Sothe, Ulki, Zihark, Bastian d. Chiki: Jill, Oscar, Boyd, Rhys, Volke, Calill, Largo, Ranulf, Lucia c. Randa: Jill, Kieran, Ilyana, Gatrie, Brom, Makalov, Mia, Geoffery, Tauroneo FE10 b. Quint: Titania, Marcia, Ilyana, Zihark, Calill, Mia, Makalov, Mordecai, Rolf a. CR: Edward, Gatrie, Elincia, Soren, Sigrun, Laura, Heather, Astrid, Ulki d. Bearclaw: Jill, Boyd, Volug, Nephenee, Janaff, Nailah, Naesala, Tibarn, Leonardo c. Turtle: Nolan, Oscar, Shinon, Tanith, Kieran, Aran, Lucia, Nealuchi, Rhys Edited June 20, 2013 by Randa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) There's still the problem that whoever gets jill auto wins. That demotivates some. IMO, ban or make one free. Jill is too OP in FE9 and FE10 combined for example. Idk if i want to join yet. Also, you can get away with Hard mode with a 4 person FE10 draft with transfers... Edited June 19, 2013 by Peekayell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 So if I ban Jill in FE9 than I would need to drop three others. Best idea would be Oscar and kieran and Marcia. Then in 10 it would be the same. Probably Titania Edward and chuck Nolan. Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 So if I ban Jill in FE9 than I would need to drop three others. Best idea would be Oscar and kieran and Marcia. Then in 10 it would be the same. Probably Titania Edward and chuck Nolan. Ideas? Not really. You don't need to ban those, as they're beatable. The problem is the first 2 picks get flight over the other 2 and it's pretty stupid. Whatever you do, youre losing by 10 turns or more to flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Free Jill? That would be a bit OP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 But then Marcia makes that person even more powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 But then Marcia makes that person even more powerful. Still a better competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) Why don't we just fill out the draft first. Also PKL if your in which one would you like? Edited June 19, 2013 by Randa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Not really, Marcia AND jill together cost more turns than alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Not really, Marcia AND jill together cost more turns than alone. Then the team with Marcia could ignore one in POR and use both in RD. It would work fine I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Then the team with Marcia could ignore one in POR and use both in RD. It would work fine I think. Yeah. Exactly. Also, Im not sure Randa. Probably FE9? Idk if im joining yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 Since I'm an idiot I didn't realize that there are 40 draftable characters in FE9 teams are made of thirty six since FE10 is limited to nine people. So yeah Jill will be banned in FE9 definitely. The question is should she be banned in FE10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Since I'm an idiot I didn't realize that there are 40 draftable characters in FE9 teams are made of thirty six since FE10 is limited to nine people. So yeah Jill will be banned in FE9 definitely. The question is should she be banned in FE10? It's not about banning Jill...you'd have to ban Marcia and Tanith too. It's just that FE9 LTC is too flier-central. Other drafts at least let normal mounts and sometimes foot units (FE12) compete. But FE9 is like, lol terrain here. Next map: terrain too! It's kinda stupid. Ask CR or anyone that's drafted FE9. No one but the first 2 picks have a shot at winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 So should I just ban all fliers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Make one free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Wait, 4 players for fe10 that draft just 9 units? And the rest are banned? Half of fe10's cast will be banned, and players will get op teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) Let me think of a way to balance this. OF COURSE, make Jill #1 and Jill #2, Marcia #1 and Marcia #2. Everyone gets a flier, everyone is happy. About FE10 and the OP teams, yeah, that would be troublesome. Edited June 19, 2013 by Peekayell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) So free Jill ban Harr, Marcia, and Manith. On the balancing note why hasn't this been resolved in past drafts for FE9? Edited June 19, 2013 by Randa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Let's try this: Double Marcia and Double Jill draftable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) nope, read pkls edit edit: pkninja'd Edited June 19, 2013 by Quintessence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randa Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 Okay I think that should work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) actually fe10 players will get almost the same tcs edit: because there would be teams with like: jill, ilyana, marcia. Another one with like Oscar, Boyd, Edward. Another one with Tits, Nolan, Leo, Elincia. Other one with: Soren, Volug, Tanith, Sigrun Edited June 19, 2013 by Quintessence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) actually fe10 players will get almost the same tcs With 9 OP units... We should get ghosts. Edited June 19, 2013 by Peekayell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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