JSND Lame Turn Counts Lunatic First Run -

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Hi, I have too many serious business playlog(actually theres two) so I suppose making an easier to manage playlog once in a while is cool

The game will be played on Lunatic Mode, on a first run

MU usage will be limited, and eventually, no MU because I can't figure out a luck less strats for Chapter 1 >_>

Also no DLC

That being said

[spoiler=Chapter 1]

Deployment:

Cav Rody

Merc MU

SM Aran

Hunter Draug

Archer Ryan

Archer Gordin

Cleric Ceccile

Strats: Have Arran go to the corner and bait 2 Fighter, with MU on the other side near the spot where the thief will spawn. Next turn, cleans up, and put Rody on the attack range of the last fighter from the North.

To beat the thief, I heal MU, chips with him, and have someone else cleans up

FInally, I plant SM!Aran on a fort and use the savepoint. I need 2 Miss from the fighter(48 HT), in order to survive the Archer(69 HT)

next Turn, feed the kills to the Archers, and its straightforward from here on

28 Turns!

Unit CLASS LV.XP HP ST MA SK SP LC DE RE WEAPON

MARTH BRO 9.11 29 11 0 12 13 12 8 0 SW D

Rody CAV 8.21 27 10 0 10 12 10 12 0 SW E LC D

BENCH MERC 8.31 27 9 1 16 16 7 12 0 SW E

Arran S.MAST 3.49 26 8 1 18 17 4 8 3 SW C

Ceccile CLERIC 7.13 21 2 4 9 10 9 0 9 ST D

Gordin ARCH 5.46 21 9 0 7 6 5 8 0 BW C

Ryan ARCH 6.14 22 10 0 8 8 5 9 0 BW C

Draug HUNT 6.89 22 10 0 7 11 3 3 0 BW E

Maliesia CLERIC 1.68 16 0 2 1 4 12 1 5 ST C

Luke CAV 1.30 20 7 0 5 7 4 7 0 SW D LC E

Next Chapter: PKL worst enemy

Edited August 9, 2013 by I have a Dragon Boner

[1% critted]

LTC=Low Turn Count but for JSND Lame Turn Count

Mind=blown

[Da Bear]

That TC was incredibly lame...

LTC=Low Turn Count but for JSND Lame Turn Count

Mind=blown

JSND can't handle the LTC

Edited August 9, 2013 by Lonely Wallcrab

[Chiki]

We should have some more Lame Turn Count playthroughs here.

[Redwall]

You should train an axe user, maybe Draug as a Pirate. Without good Hauteclere and Parthia users, Hardin's kind of a pain unless you use the triangle attack.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Maybe, Im not sure how to handle the Dracoknights spam though for the early game

[spoiler=Chapter 2]

Deployment:

Marth

Cleric!Cecille

Cleric!Malliesia

Cav!Rody

Hunter!Draug

Archer!Gordin

Archer!Ryan

Dracoknight!Arran

Strats:

To sum up this chapter, basically this is a good chapter to show how amazing fliers really is.

The strats for the first turns are simple, everyone except for Catria and Arran East, and draw in some Hunter and Soldiers, and, eventually the Cavalier. This one is simpler to handle.

Considering that LS is such an amazing Item, I decided to get the damn thing, which is surprisingly easy. Basically, have Arran and Catria fly exactly one panel before the combined attack zone of..... tons of stuff. The river on the left area is surprisingly helpful for this task. Eventually, Arran can get 2 Free Turn to Javelin strike the thief, and still being outside a Hunter attack range for 2 turn. After this, escape to the river.

As for the boss and his dracoknight squad, Arran on the left, Marth and Rody on the middle. Cleans up with Archer next turn. As a sidenote, I can actually get a consistent version of this strats by simply deploying Archer!Luke, but alas, Ryan is a bro who crits the boss, so im not complaining

22 Turn

6 CHAPTERS LESS LAME HOW

Anyway Catria, Cord, Warren, and Linde joined

Catria is basically like a flying tank. She never gains anything but Defense

If characters are judged based on their potraits, Cord would be like God Tier. Sadly its not. Dude don't even have D Axe

Warren is pretty bro, because he is a Hunter who can use Bows competently

Good Bow users being useful? What is wrong with this game?

Linde has Nosferatu and Aura, but she can't take a hit. Still, she can be pretty useful for Aura Bombing. Also unlike Cecille, she has 2 Def. What a bro

Unit CLASS LV.XP HP ST MA SK SP LC DE RE WEAPON

MARTH BRO 9.97 29 11 0 12 13 12 8 0 SW D

Rody CAV 8.77 27 10 0 10 12 10 12 0 SW E LC D

Catria PEGK 7.13 22 7 2 9 15 9 9 6 LC C

BENCH MERC 8.31 27 9 1 16 16 7 12 0 SW E

Linde Mage 4.00 20 0 4 5 8 8 2 4 TM D

Warren HUNT 2.77 22 7 0 5 8 1 4 0 BW D

Cord FIGH 2.55 22 9 0 7 8 5 5 0 AX E

Arran DRAG!L 4.23 25 11 1 12 11 4 13 3 LC B AX E

Ceccile CLERIC 9.05 22 2 6 11 11 11 0 10 ST D

Gordin ARCH 6.23 21 9 0 7 6 6 8 0 BW C

Ryan ARCH 7.27 23 10 0 9 9 5 9 0 BW C

Draug HUNT 7.69 22 11 0 8 11 3 3 0 BW E

Maliesia CLERIC 1.68 16 0 2 1 4 12 1 5 ST C

Luke CAV 1.30 20 7 0 5 7 4 7 0 SW D LC E

WILL CATRIA SUCEED IN HER MISSION TO BECOME THE NEXT THWOMP?

WILL RODY PROVES TO BE TANKIER THAN LEIF IN MANSTER?
WILL BENCH STAY ON THE BENCH?

WILL RYAN NEVER GET SPEED?

FIND OUT NEXT IN THE LAMEST TURN COUNT LUNATIC!

btw this game's enemies is not as incompetent as FE5. Just saiyan

Edited August 9, 2013 by I have a Dragon Boner

[fatgamecat]

Well it's good to see some humor on this board.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

At the time where JSND tried to complete Lunatic of the most Dragon Bonerific Fire Emblem of ALL TIME

Double Update!

[spoiler=Chapter 3]

Deployment:

Marth

Mage!Cecille

Cleric!Malliesia

Cav!Rody

Hunter!Draug

Archer!Gordin

Archer!Ryan

Dracoknight!Arran

Forge a +3 Steel Bow(misclick. Don't blame me >_>)

Strats:

PALLA!

Main Team:

Start by drawing in the Dracoknight Squad on the right, and snipe all 3 of the Dracoknights down.

Move Marth from the left side and get both of the village(for completionist sake. The bridge key is not used at all) followed by the team.

Palla:

At the same time, start turn 1 by moveing from up-most panel to the left. Avoid the attack range of the Dracoknights. There will be tons of Cavalier reinforcement from the fort, so avoid the fort for all cost.

Done properly, Palla will regroup with Marth + Bord(from the village) after getting attacked by a Dracoknight.

Cover Palla with Marth and Bord, and equip Bord with the Hammer. Palla's 2 Silver Lance Strike + Bord's 1 Hammer Strike = Dead Dracoknight, avoiding the second attack that would kill Bord.

Now that the hard part is done, use a bridge as a chokepoint to handle the Cavaliers.

As for the rest of the Dracoknight Squad

They will not move in unless they got a kill, or the enemy can't hit back.

Therefore, I used my Hunter Draug who can survive a hit from the Silver Axe Dracoknight to draw them in.

Clean up, and the next(and final) Dracoknight squad will chase after you.

I weaken one of the DK with Dracoknight Arran, and clean them up.

Now go after the village, and kill the boss

Yay

[spoiler=Chapter 3x]

Deployment:

Marth

Mage!Cecille

Cav!Rody

Fighter!Bord

Peg!Palla

Peg!Catria

Strats:

Put Rody on the fort and Bord equipped with a Hammer below him

Move Palla on a save spot on the nearest mountains

Catria, Cecille, and Marth stayed behind Bord and Rody

Move WRYSSSS away

Cleans the Archer and the Armors. After this part, its kinda self explanatory.

Although to play it safe, I make sure that Palla killed the last Archer with a Javelin, so that she can fly far enough to Silver Lance the Archer that chases after Wrys.

Stats Update:

- New Units:

Palla is basically Catria with better base and an ability to get Strength

[spoiler=Proof]

You will never see something like this with Palla because she can actually get STR!

Matthew is a thief with a combat ability that is impossibru to Salvage

Matthis is kinda surprising, having 21/9 HP/DEF, although I don't like him, so I won't use him often, if at all

Bord is capable of using Hammer. And thats all I can say about him. Might use him long term for that C Axe Rank, but we'll see.

[spoiler=Wrys is a bro]

- Stats

Unit CLASS LV.XP HP ST MA SK SP LC DE RE WEAPON

MARTH BRO 10.63 30 11 0 13 14 13 8 0 SW C

Rody CAV 10.71 29 12 0 12 13 11 13 0 SW E LC C

Palla PEGK 13.03 26 13 2 14 16 10 12 6 LC B

Catria PEGK 9.14 24 8 2 11 17 11 10 7 LC C

Ceccile MAGE 11.12 23 2 9 12 13 12 0 6 TM E

Ryan ARCH 8.70 24 11 0 10 10 6 9 0 BW C

Draug HUNT 8.51 24 12 0 8 12 3 4 0 BW E

Bord FIGH 3.60 23 11 0 8 7 1 5 0 AX C

Maliesia CLERIC 6.42 18 0 4 2 8 14 1 7 ST B

Wrys CURATE 8.48 18 0 6 7 9 6 3 10 ST D

Arran DRAG 4.74 25 11 1 12 11 4 13 3 LC B AX E

Matthis CAV 4.00 21 7 0 3 7 1 9 0 SW E LC D

Julian THIEF 6.00 20 7 0 8 14 7 6 0 SW E

Linde MAGE 4.00 20 0 4 5 8 8 2 4 TM D

Warren HUNT 2.77 22 7 0 5 8 1 4 0 BW D

Cord FIGH 2.55 22 9 0 7 8 5 5 0 AX E

Gordin ARCH 6.49 21 9 0 7 6 6 8 0 BW C

Luke CAV 1.30 20 7 0 5 7 4 7 0 SW D LC E

BENCH Bald

[PKL]

That's a bro Ryan. But keeping him as an archer is kinda bad. Ideally he wants to go Myrmidon, build Sword rank and then alternate between Swordmaster/Sniper until he wants/can do Horseman. As for Palla, yeah, shes like Catria except with bases, silver lance and a lot more str and looks. She's <3

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

He definitely won't be able to be a Horseman duh

[PKL]

He definitely won't be able to be a Horseman duh

DERP. Im so used to Mixed class sets, sorry. Obligatory Catria's str sucks.

[Redwall]

Catria (w/ the Elysian Whip) does eventually eclipse Palla in overall usefulness imo, but it won't be till around Ch. 18 or so. Palla's Lck growth really is terrible, making her prone to getting crit-blicked in Chapters 21 and beyond, and she also has trouble reaching the Paladin Spd cap. But until then, yeah, Palla's way better than Catria, especially considering you're not using the base stat-boosters or the RP (either of which is sufficient to patch up Catria's Str).

Edited August 27, 2013 by Redwall

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Gosh, this chapter take me like.... one day

[spoiler=Chapter 4]

Deployment:

Marth

Cav!Cecille

Cleric!Malliesia

Cav!Rody

Hunter!Draug

Peg!Palla

Peg!Catria

Mage!Linde

Archer!Ryan

Swordmaster!Arran

One chapter before the Goddess with the Spear re-joined!

I tried to use Cavalier Palla and Catria for this map once. Simply put, its a bad Idea because of the Desert Panel >_>

Turn 1:

I forgot what I do(Palla killed Barb, Catria killed a Hunter, and Chip + Hit stuff), but thats basically how it ends up.

Maliessia should have moved like 1 more panel to enter the fort. Misplay at its best

Rescue Marth, recruit Kashim, and put Ogma in range of a fighter to the left

EP: Catria attacked by the Barb, Ogma chips the Barb

Turn 2: Marth ORKO the Fighter that is chipped by Ogma. Kashim chips followed by Ogma for a kill

Cover the fort and move Palla and Rody to the right

IIRC Palla combats the thief at the enemy phase

Turn 3: Kill the thief. Put Marth and Ogma to the mountain. Put Kashim on range of a Hunter

Rody is put in range of a Fighter, while Palla is 2 panel up from him

Turn 4/5: Palla moves in closer to Marth's group, while Rody moves back to bait up the fighter rush

The group behind cleans up all the reinforcements and the barb, while Palla + Marth + Kashim is more than enough to handle the group that attacked Marth.

IIRC the reinforcement from the fort stopped around Turn 5

After everything ends, recruit Sirius

Finally, for the Hunter + Hand Axe Barb + 30 ATK Barb, put Sirius in range of the 30 ATK Barb, and Draug inside of the edge of Hand Axe Barb attack range

Mook cleared up, and the boss is a matter of save point aboose

I admit, this is perhaps the hardest chapter I ever played, and it was satisfying, if not for the fact that.... well, Rody dodged once.

Should I reload and get the Shaver?

New Character:

We get Sirius, Ogma, Yubello, and Yumina

Sirius is a pre-promote with awesome Weapon Rank, so basically its time to retire Arran. I doubt I will use him that much, but he is going to be deployed in the finale. Besides, he is the only competent Dracoknight that I can have at this point of the game, or Sniper!Sirius

Ogma is in a grey zone. One on hand, B Class Set with C Sword is awesome. On the other hand, I don't exactly have a unit slot to put him, beetwen Cecille, Rody, the 3 Goddess, and Ryan + Draug, and then Malliesia

Yubello sucks. There

Yumina, well, she is basically Malliesia minus the Blue Hair. Except Blue Hair allows you to use Hammene. Don't question it

- Stats

Unit CLASS LV.XP HP ST MA SK SP LC DE RE WEAPON

MARTH BRO 11.23 31 11 0 14 15 14 9 0 SW C

Rody CAV 11.17 29 13 0 13 14 12 14 0 SW E LC C

Palla PEGK 13.55 26 13 2 14 16 10 12 6 LC B

Catria PEGK 9.67 24 8 2 11 17 11 10 7 LC C

Ceccile CAV 12.22 26 7 6 13 17 13 6 3 SW D LC E

Ryan ARCH 9.68 25 11 0 10 11 6 10 0 BW C

Draug HUNT 9.08 25 13 0 9 13 4 4 0 BW D

Bord FIGH 3.60 23 11 0 8 7 1 5 0 AX C

Maliesia CLERIC 8.34 20 0 5 2 10 14 1 8 ST B

Ogma MERC 7.61 27 8 0 14 13 5 8 0 SW C

Sirius PALA 1.08 28 12 1 14 13 4 11 6 SW A LC B

Yubello MAGE 1.06 18 0 1 1 6 5 3 3 TM D

Yumina CLERIC 3.67 16 0 2 2 8 9 2 5 ST C

Wrys CURATE 8.48 18 0 6 7 9 6 3 10 ST D

Arran SM 5.09 27 8 1 18 18 4 9 3 SW C

Matthis CAV 4.00 21 7 0 3 7 1 9 0 SW E LC D

Julian THIEF 6.00 20 7 0 8 14 7 6 0 SW E

Linde MAGE 4.20 20 0 4 5 8 8 2 4 TM D

Warren HUNT 2.77 22 7 0 5 8 1 4 0 BW D

Cord FIGH 2.55 22 9 0 7 8 5 5 0 AX E

Gordin ARCH 6.49 21 9 0 7 6 6 8 0 BW C

Luke CAV 1.30 20 7 0 5 7 4 7 0 SW D LC E

BENCH Bald

Extra Comments:

This is the first time I saw a Palla who is weaker than Rody

Even then Palla is still more useful just because she can fly and DAT spd

Ryan's SPD is depressingly low

Draug FINNALY hit that D Bow

[eclipse]

Shaver - It's nice for the dragon chapters (and SCREW YOU to those stupid flying pieces of garbage that. . .ahem). If you have no intention of using a male mage/Excalibur, it MIGHT be worth getting. Otherwise, Excalibur will do it better.

[Redwall]

Ryan's SPD is depressingly low

Your Ryan has gained seven points of Spd in eight levels, which is pretty good. He gains like +5 Spd upon going from Archer to Sniper, too.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Its 4 before he started doubling

Looking back, having mixed Class Set seems to be pretty game changing just for being able to become a hunter >_>

Edited September 1, 2013 by JSND

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

Time for Triple Update

[spoiler=Chapter 5]

Deployment

Peg!Palla

Peg!Catria

Cav!Sheeda

Draco!Sirius

Priest!Cecille

Hunter!Draug

Archer!Ryan

Cav!Rody

Julian

Merc!Ogma

I start by putting Palla in range of a Mage, and have Sirius rushes forward to chase off a Thief and have everyone follow Palla, but outside the range of any of the enemies.

Ogma recruited Barst Turn 1

Turn 2, I handle the Mages with Marth(who doubled them), Barts, and Ogma

Draug chipped a Thief for Catria. Palla and Sirius chipped a Cavs for Rody and Sheeda.

Following the enemy phase, there is only one more Cavs that attacked Sheeda.

Turn 3 - 5:

In this position, the Dracoknight will attack Sirius from below

This is to lure the Dracoknights to fly closer to the main group, so that Sirius only need to fight 1 Dracoknight

They decided to attack Draug and Ryan

I really wondered if this AI quirks is made on purpose

I tried to recruit Rickard this chapter, which is done by making Sirius block the path to the escape point, forcing him to return.

As for the Snipers squad:

They will attack Draug and Ryan, which allows me to clean up and box all of them in one shot

Give Iron Sword to Ogma, and allow him to chips and Jeorge for lulz. Sadly, this is not as effective as I want it to be, because there is an EXP decay >_<

For the Boss Squad, looking back, I can make it easier by attacking from the North side

I bait and switched the 3 Knights. After this, put Palla, Sirius and Catria on the attack range of the Ballistae because it is ineffective against Fliers.

By putting Sirius one panel on the right of the boss, he will not get attacked by 2 aggroing enemies.

After this, its a simple clean up and a trip to get Hammene.

I bought some Door Key for lulz

I DEMAND A RAGEQUIT

[spoiler=Chapter 6]

Before this chapter, I used base Arena on Palla, and promote her at level 17. Lets hope it did not bit me in the ass

Paladin!Palla

Peg!Catria

Cav!Sheeda

Paladin!Sirius

Mage!Cecille

Pirate!Draug

Archer!Ryan

Cav!Rody

Julian

Priest!Malliesia

Palladin is clutch for this chapter

Sirius takes Leo

Turn 1:

Palla moves in the range of the Mages guarding the treasure chest and use the Pure Water. Put Draug in range of one Mage as well

Sheeda and Sirius is positioned on the left to kill the Knight

Julian goes to the Bullion(L) chest

Turn 2:

Palla chases off the Siege Tomes Mage.

Mage!Ceccile ORKO the Mage below

Ryan Chips an Armor for Sirius

Malieasia healed Sheeda

Sheeda and Catria cleans up the remaining enemies

Feed the Mage to Draug

Move Julian closer to the chest

The Thoron Mage attacked Palla and get killed on EP

Turn 3 - 5:

Palla regroups, and uses Vulnerary, and she get a Heal so that she can fight off the reinforcement

By Turn 4, is positioned to fight off the Javelin Soldier and Silver Lance Soldier, which she ORKOes

Palla moves one panel left to the left Pilar, which allows her to take a hit from the Javelin Soldier. Thanks to this, the rest of the reinforcements is an easy picking for the whole team.

The final Wave is handled by putting Leo!Rody and Palla as a chokepoint duty

Not rigged. I sware

Until Turn 28:

I openned the left door and tanked the Hero + Mage with Iron Sword Leo!Palla and leave Cecille, Marth, and Ryan on the right

The rest of the team rushes to the left. Rody with Iron Sword chokes the Sniper + Samto. Sheeda recruited Samto and chipped the Mage. Palla with Iron Sword chipped again for Rody.

Finally, after putting Sheeda on the Blind spot of the Throne Room, Draws in the Armor Knights with Palla(left) and Ryan(right, inside the attack range of a Javelin Armor Knights)

Cleans up and kill Lang(which is easy, but I decided to feed the kills to Ryan for no reason)

BTW the Save points are used to rig Ceccile and Ryan's level up. Sue me

What a beautiful Duwang Turn counts

[spoiler=Epic Stuff]

I really want to use this guy.... 16 SPD as a Paladin is funny

This guy does not get to be deployed for like.... 7 Chapters right now wtf

[spoiler=Chapter 6x]

I think Jeigan explained this chapter the best

You can use Coin Toss to beat them, its that easy!

Okay, maybe with a use of Rescue Staff

Sheeda used the Arena as an Archer and get some real soviet growth

Sniper!Palla

Peg!Catria

Peg!Sheeda

Cleric!Cecile

Cav!Ryan

Myrmidon!Rody

Sheeda Wing Spear Bombed the Armor Knight mc. Choke Point

Ryan chips an Axeman for Catria

Rody chips the other Axeman for Sword WEXP

This is why you don't mess with Sniper. Such a Bro Class

By the way, my original plan was to Steel Bow Roro and feed him to Catria, but Palla decided to crit with Steel Bow. Can't complain >_>

Rescue Marth with Ceccile and Seize

I manage to pull of an Impossibru Turn count here. What the hell just happened

I don't know how effective it is when the group predicted the entire thing >_>

- Stats

Unit CLASS LV.XP HP ST MA SK SP LC DE RE WEAPON

MARTH BRO 12.47 32 12 0 14 16 15 9 0 SW C

Rody CAV 13.21 31 14 0 14 15 14 16 0 SW E LC C

Palla(17) DRAC 3.75 33 21 1 19 20 12 19 3 LC A AX E

Catria PEGK 12.01 26 11 2 13 20 14 12 7 LC B

Ceccile CLERIC 17.52 28 3 11 15 19 16 1 11 ST C

Ryan ARCH 12.28 28 12 0 12 14 7 12 0 BW C

Draug HUNT 11.46 27 14 0 10 15 5 5 0 BW D

Maliesia CLERIC 12.03 22 0 6 2 12 14 1 10 ST A

Sirius PALA 2.75 28 13 1 14 14 4 12 6 SW A LC B

Wendell SAGE 7.00 26 3 8 5 13 4 5 6 TM B ST D

Julian THIEF 6.27 20 7 0 8 14 7 6 0 SW E

Ogma MERC 9.00 29 10 0 16 14 6 9 0 SW C

Yubello MAGE 1.06 18 0 1 1 6 5 3 3 TM D

Yumina CLERIC 3.67 16 0 2 2 8 9 2 5 ST C

Wrys CURATE 8.48 18 0 6 7 9 6 3 10 ST D

Arran SM 5.09 27 8 1 18 18 4 9 3 SW C

Matthis CAV 4.00 21 7 0 3 7 1 9 0 SW E LC D

Linde MAGE 4.20 20 0 4 5 8 8 2 4 TM D

Warren HUNT 2.77 22 7 0 5 8 1 4 0 BW D

Bord FIGH 3.60 23 11 0 8 7 1 5 0 AX C

Cord FIGH 2.55 22 9 0 7 8 5 5 0 AX E

Barst FIGH 5.58 26 12 0 10 11 6 7 0 AX C

Gordin ARCH 6.49 21 9 0 7 6 6 8 0 BW C

Luke CAV 1.30 20 7 0 5 7 4 7 0 SW D LC E

Luke HUNT 7.32 BASE

Norne ARCH 5.10 BASE

Frey CAV 8.33 BASE

Samto MYRM 5.00 BASE

Caesar MERC 7.00 BASE

Radd MYRM 5.61 BASE

Rickard THIEF 7.61 27 8 0 14 13 5 8 0 SW C

BENCH Headband

[commonguard]

Disappointed in the C6x turncount. I expected some careful positioning in order to save a rescue use and avoid killing Radd and Caesar while keeping your team alive. Good job on C5, glad you decided to take out the snipers even though you didn`t have to.

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

I wanted to try doing that for 6x but its.... 12 AM >_>

Mostly because I can't find a way to hide from the Archers

Edited September 8, 2013 by JSND

[commonguard]

Well, fine. But I hope to see something like a 12 turn of C7 where you kill off a lot Astram`s heroes and maybe an 8 turn of C8 where you fight the reinforcement generals. Although, considering the group of units you chose to use (added to the fact you aren`t even using MU), might be hard to stay on those maps for a long time. Kudos ahead of time if you manage it, it would definitely be harder than LTC or efficient strategies.

[LeaderR Elliot]

My chapter 6x turn count is lamer lol

Nice job so far.

In assassins chapters IIRC marth seems to have provoke skill on them

[PKL]

I don't see how the group he chose to use is impeding those things you mentioned commonguard. He's using a lot of good units. Including the next best set of units after Avatar for a run like this, the whole 7th platoon and Catria, Palla and Caeda. In my Avatar-less LTC test run, I used Luke Rody Cecille and Ryan. Although once I make a video playthrough of it, I'm also going to ban Palla Catria and Caeda from the run.

Edited September 8, 2013 by PKL

[Redwall]

These turn-counts are too low. I want to see some lame turn-counts.

PKL, I'm waiting for you respond to my argument in the other thread. never mind

Edited September 8, 2013 by Redwall

[PKL]

Yeah, where's the 50 turns? And read the PM :/

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

@Elliot: gonna watch later, lol. I'm on phone

Looking back, if I manage to choke it properly, I can clean the Archers with Palla + Sheeda + Catria

I'm not really seeing the chance to fight the heroes squad

@common: 22 AS means the only unit that does not get doubled is the big 3(2 of which is 2 hit units), and Ceccile(who is dead when anything stares at her)

As a matter of fact, my current mindframe for ch 7 is a 5 turn clear that skipped Master Seal and Wo Dao, kinda hypocritical to do this on a casual playthrough, especially one with blessed big 3, Ryan, and Rody >_>

@PKL: objection! I dun use Luke!

Edited September 8, 2013 by JSND