Airship Canon Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Does RK affect the skill weapons (Leif's Blade, Luna, Astra, Sol, Vengeance)? Using a Skill Weapon is like having another skill slot. When you're equipped with them, you're also equipped with the skill. Things like RFK do in fact boost activations. Check how often Walhart on Chp 19 on Lunatic/Lunatic+ activates Sol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziek Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Can someone look over my revised pairings. Post kinda got missed as it was at the end of the page. Gaaaaah, had a whole post typed out and lost it. Can re-type detailed reasoning on request. Abridged version: Give Donny to Nowi or Sully. (Merc/Peg) Give the other one Vaike. (Merc, physical mods, and Knight for Nah (Kjelle has it already)) Pair Lissa with Ricken if you want a magical Owain. Otherwise, Frederick or Stahl. Would then give Henry to Maribelle. Panne is pretty flexible either way since she gives ridiculously good physical mods, so it's really just a matter of what classes you want on Yarne. He can't get Galeforce and the Mercenary dads are wanted elsewhere, so pretty much anyone is decent. Libra is fine on Miriel, but Virion and Lon'Qu are also solid picks that give him more class options. Edited December 10, 2013 by Raziek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 Libra is fine on Miriel, but Virion and Lon'Qu are also solid picks that give him more class options. No, Libra!Laurent is really bad. Virion!Laurent isn't very good either. Lon'qu however is arguably his best father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarfishh Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 No, Libra!Laurent is really bad. Virion!Laurent isn't very good either. Lon'qu however is arguably his best father. That's surprising. Never thought him a good father for a mage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 He gives Vantage to compliment natural vengeance, and gives Laurent immense skill and speed to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorin Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 So um...min max help. Can somebody look at my pairing and rate them? Also tell me how to pair Maribelle from the leftovers. Virion or Libra? Thanks. Chrom x Olivia MaMU(Speed+ Luck-) x Cordelia Henry x Sumia Stahl x Panne x Maribelle* Donnel x Sully Vaike x Nowi Gregor x Cherche Lon'qu x Miriel Gaius x Tharja Ricken x Lissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaZero Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 put Frederick or Kellam with Cherche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 So um...min max help. Can somebody look at my pairing and rate them? Also tell me how to pair Maribelle from the leftovers. Virion or Libra? Thanks. Chrom x Olivia MaMU(Speed+ Luck-) x Cordelia Henry x Sumia Stahl x Panne x Maribelle* Donnel x Sully Vaike x Nowi Gregor x Cherche Lon'qu x Miriel Gaius x Tharja Ricken x Lissa Virion. More classes. put Frederick or Kellam with Cherche Over Gregor? That doesn't make much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaZero Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) well I see Gerome as more of a support tank over an overall attacking unit so I would want DG+ Edited December 10, 2013 by AlphaZero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 He gets AT, Myrmidon, Berserker, and good mods from Gregor. Gregor makes him a better supporter than Frederick or Kellam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) So um...min max help. Can somebody look at my pairing and rate them? Also tell me how to pair Maribelle from the leftovers. Virion or Libra? Thanks. Chrom x Olivia MaMU(Speed+ Luck-) x Cordelia Henry x Sumia Stahl x Panne x Maribelle* Donnel x Sully Vaike x Nowi Gregor x Cherche Lon'qu x Miriel Gaius x Tharja Ricken x Lissa Maribelle's pairing depends on whether you want Brady using Vengeance or Luna as his offensive proc. Vengeance is 100% consistent, but you lack Vantage to use it with, so I'd advise Luna (this means Virion). Edited December 14, 2013 by Czar_Yoshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelonGx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) Chrom x Sumia/Olivia FeMU x Vaike!Gerome Henry/Ricken x Lissa Donnel x Sully Lon'qu x Miriel Chrom/Frederick/Henry x Sumia Gregor x Maribelle ? x Panne Stahl x Cordelia ? x Nowi Gaius x Tharja Chrom/Frederick/Kellam/Ricken x Olivia Vaike x Cherche The pairs are based on making Str.71 Morgan and AT+Luna+Gale as many as possible. For Chrom: Chrom x Sumia has an extra Aether + Luna Cynthia, and a SPD+5 Lucina @ Sniper. Pairing this Lucina with V!G!Morgan @ Berserker is able to shoot Apo's Anna twice with Double Bow to make a OHKO without taking any damage. Chrom x Olivia has an offensive Inigo, but less SPD (+3) on Lucina. Pairing this Lucina with V!G!Morgan @ Berserker is also able to OHKO Anna but she has to take the 65% Aether's damage. But this Lucina can be taken place by Severa / Kjelle if I was not caring about the Dual Strike+ skill. Chrom x FeMU loses Str.71 Morgan so it's not my choice. Question: How to decide Panne & Nowi's pairing from leftovers? It may be Virion, Libra, Kellam / Frederick / Henry. Thanks very much. Edited December 14, 2013 by MelonGx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 Probably Frederick x Panne and Kellam x Nowi. And for the debates, Chrom x Olivia, Ricken x Lissa, Henry x Sumia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 If you want GDL (Galeforce/DG+/Luna) maximization, you're going to want to pair Avatar with Nowi (also gives you one more AT unit). Morgan's atk against Anna is 50(Base) +11(Mods) +10(Rallies) +10(LB) +10(Aggressor) +5(Axefaire) +2(tonic) +4(All+2/Str+2) +2(WRB/WTA) +17(Forged Brave) = 121, without a Barracks Boost. Anna has 55+3 Def, so you're doing 63 damage per hit. Factor in Dragonskin, and that's 31 damage, 6 (13 atk) more than you need to ORKO Anna without pokes, even if Lucina is doing 0 damage per hit. Basically, you don't need Vaike!Gerome!Morgan for Anna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolCoolCool Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 (edited) Hey guys, can someone look over my pairings for me? Wanted to maximise s-ranks by marrying second gen. Ideally would like to marry Lucina and have a magical morgan as a child. Here are my current pairings: - Donnel x Sully (galeforce-passing father #1) - Gaius x Tharja (galeforce-passing father #2) - Chrom x Maribelle (Maribelle or Sumia for magical Lucina/Morgan... went with Maribelle for preferred 2nd gen marriages. Brady is still great.) - Ricken x Lissa (Galeforce male #1 for great sage Owain) - Kellam x Olivia (Gets me luna, galeforce and sage on Inigo) - Henry x Sumia (Best of the few available choices to bolster Cynthia) - Cordelia x Stahl (Gives access to great knight and swordfaire, good mods) - Gregor x Cherche (Great physical mods, access to berserker) - Frederick x Panne (Access to great knight, good mods) - Vaike x Nowi (Opens up a ton of classes and can pass axefaire. Great mods.) - Lon'qu x Miriel (Great mods, passes down vengeance) - Virion x Libra OTP Then for 2nd gen: - Inigo (Sage) x Morgan (Dark Flier) - Owain (Sage) x Cynthia (Dark Flier) - Brady (Sage) x Noire (Dark Flier) - Severa (Hero) x Gerome (Berserker) - Kjelle (Hero) x Yarne (Berserker) - Nah (Hero) x Laurent (Sorcerer) --> this couple was kind of just tacked on as leftovers I am interested in making every unit usable, with obvious priority to the more important children. Any suggestions to improve these relationships? Thanks for any advice! Edited December 24, 2013 by CoolCoolCool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 I'd say probably switch Kellam and Frederick. Yarne gets just as much from Kellam as he does Frederick, and Kellam isn't amazing as Inigo's father. If you insist on magic Inigo though, then keep Frederick with Panne and give Libra to Olivia. Although it would work better physical because then you could do Inigo x Nah and Laurent x Morgan (Laurent is actually one of the best children). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sunshine Sprinkles Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Avatar/Eijenhar!Lyndis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I'd say probably switch Kellam and Frederick. Yarne gets just as much from Kellam as he does Frederick, and Kellam isn't amazing as Inigo's father. If you insist on magic Inigo though, then keep Frederick with Panne and give Libra to Olivia. Although it would work better physical because then you could do Inigo x Nah and Laurent x Morgan (Laurent is actually one of the best children). Morgan would want a Galeforce husband though. A more keen point to that is having Laurent roll Sage over Sorc. Sages are better than Sorcs unless you need dark magic, which comes down to "are you in main game"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelonGx Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) A more keen point to that is having Laurent roll Sage over Sorc. Sages are better than Sorcs unless you need dark magic, which comes down to "are you in main game"?Sorceror with Waste+ has a +4 better output than Sage with Celica's Gale+, with a not reliable accuracy and -1 Meg, -4 Skl to dual partner though. Edited December 25, 2013 by MelonGx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Sorceror with Waste+ has a +4 better output than Sage with Celica's Gale+, with a not reliable accuracy and -1 Meg, -4 Skl to dual partner though. The accuracy on Waste is awful. Even +25Hit/+3MT Forged [which after calculating in the MAG difference, is only 2 in favor of Waste] you're still going to run into hit issues, which is made worse by a 5 SKL difference in the classes, and the other issue with Sorc vs. Sage [Pair Up bonus] is there too: Sages give better Pair bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribute Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 (edited) The accuracy on Waste is awful. Even +25Hit/+3MT Forged [which after calculating in the MAG difference, is only 2 in favor of Waste] you're still going to run into hit issues, which is made worse by a 5 SKL difference in the classes, and the other issue with Sorc vs. Sage [Pair Up bonus] is there too: Sages give better Pair bonuses. Obvious answer hear is Aversa!Morgan. Shadow Sage win game. But I digress, I actually came here to ship GaiusxMiriel and RickenxNowi (You need to stop bringing the dragonstone to bed) and ABOVE ALL. GregoXCord surprise assault on fortress of love! Edited December 25, 2013 by Tribute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Sage vs Sorc is simple: Sages have clothes and Sorcs don't, so use Sages. The fact that Sages happen to be statistically better is just icing on the cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenge accepted lunatic Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 :'D after finally completing Lunatic and normal mode I'm finally re doing hard mode XD so help me awakeners with the pairings!For hard classic mode and if you think there better pairings ( edit them) tell me! Ill give them a shot :3 My fem!avatar HAS to marry Chrom....what? ...okay I MIGHT get a bit jelly...plus Lucina and morgan become badasssssss Nowi and sully either have to marry gaius or Donny I don't like Noire getting GALEFORCE when nah or KJELLE use it better And y'all get to tell me the rest of the pair :) Btw ill be grinding the parents to ALL base and leveled up classes as well as there children all those wasted hours of grinding with 3000 gold remaking boxes XD oh well DLC Fee and Caeda hear I come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Avatar!Lucina actually isn't as good as she sounds. While she is very good, so are the rest of Avatar's children, but most of them have a lot more to gain than Lucina does. Lucina comes with Dual Strike+, and has other mothers who can give her Galeforce and the like. Actually, Noire is better at using Galeforce than Nah because her Spd is higher and so she's more likely to kill stuff. But if you want Galeforce on Nah, I'd advise against Gaius (you seem like someone who would care about the supports themselves, and Gaius x Nowi is really, really bad). Donnel is decent. Out of all the children, Nah probably has the most to gain from having Avatar as a father, so you may want to consider that (unfortunately Morgan will be slow, but you'll get an extra Manakete which is very nice for Hard). If you intend to use Reeking Boxes on Hard to grind, you'll need to get some Leif's Blades (buy them from Leif) or some units with Despoil in order to not lose all your money. I'd advise grinding on the Spotpass teams instead because they don't cost a thing to summon (you'll still lose gold on them unless you have 100% Armsthrift due to weapon uses, so you still want Leif's Blade, but it's nowhere near as bad). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenge accepted lunatic Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Hm....well I don't really like Gaius!Noire mostly because Noire didn't use Lethality AT ALL it's one of my fav skills so I personally didn't go with that THARJA and gaius pair considering I adore them both they just can't be together XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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