Tribute Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) On my upcoming file thats going to be my main file, Im torn on Aversa vs Tharja Tharja: -Get to feed the crazy -Noire is the best character in the game. Period. So being able to soup her up would be nice Aversa: -Comparable to tharja from as a waifu -Shadowgift is REALLY tempting. REEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAALYYYYYY. Shadowgrandmaster morgan sounds pretty cool It really comes to SuperNoire vs Shadowgift Morgan (Which I might be overestimating but it just seems so cool) Edited September 6, 2013 by Tribute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euklyd Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Aversa is pretty awful, TBQH, when compared to either a pairing in which you get two kids, or a 2nd-gen marriage. As much as I despise Tharja, between the two, she is so much better. Shadowgift frankly sucks, and marrying Tharja means you get two awesome kids (although no godly 3rd-gen Morgan). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeCrush980 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Shadowgift is bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) Shadowgift Morgan isn't that good. With Tharja, you get two Morgans. For why Shadowgift isn't good, it's because you could just go sorcerer and use the extra skill slot. Edited September 6, 2013 by Comet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euklyd Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Shadowgift Morgan isn't that good. With Tharja, you get two Morgans. For why Shadowgift isn't good, it's because you could just go sorcerer and use the extra skill slot. I would say that Shadowgift isn't that good because Dark Magic isn't that good, especially on Avatar's kids, who have better options than Nosfatanking. Since Nosfatanking and Mire are basically Dark Magic's only niches, why bother with Dark Magic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted35362 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 my two favorite characters? oh man...that's TOUGH... ...owait, you mean gameplay-wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribute Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) my two favorite characters? oh man...that's TOUGH... ...owait, you mean gameplay-wise? Eh, why not both. Its between the two of them anyway for the former, but since theyre both up there, may as well look at gameplay wise. Also, thats the thing about shadowgift, I really like dark magic(WTB NECROMANCER SCROLL DLC THANKS - It could totally be canon with risen), and besides nosferatu tanking, Waste/Ruin are pretty cool, but I wonder if/what I would go in place of sorc (Sage or GM) Edited September 6, 2013 by Tribute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 For why Shadowgift isn't good, it's because you could just go sorcerer and use the extra skill slot. Unless he wants Morgan to have Dark Magic and Staves... Since Nosfatanking and Mire are basically Dark Magic's only niches, why bother with Dark Magic? Ruin with its 55 crit at base isn't good enough for you or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthenaWyrm Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 aversa is a better character yeah yeah yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euklyd Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) Eh, why not both. Its between the two of them anyway for the former, but since theyre both up there, may as well look at gameplay wise. Also, thats the thing about shadowgift, I really like dark magic(WTB NECROMANCER SCROLL DLC THANKS - It could totally be canon with risen), and besides nosferatu tanking, Waste/Ruin are pretty cool, but I wonder if/what I would go in place of sorc (Sage or GM) The only Dark Magic worth using, IMO, is Waste (or Nosferatu/Aversa's Night when I'm feeling lazy). Shadowgift lets you use that on a Sage, so it's basically giving you much less Def, 2 more Mag, and Staves in exchange for a skill slot. That seems like a pretty poor trade. Dark Flier is a more interesting choice, since a DF with Shadowgift isn't just a slightly different Sorcerer. Ruin with its 55 crit at base isn't good enough for you or something? ...no, no it's not. I'd rather have Waste or Celica's Gale, so that I can always have twice the attacks, as opposed to sometimes have 3x the damage. And if I did want crits, a Forged Katarina's Bolt has way better Mt, better hit, and only 5 less crit, since Crit can't go above 50 (BTW, Ruin has 50 Crit, not 55). Since Morgan (and Avatar!Noire) can do basically anything, I'd much rather run LB, AT, Vantage, Vengeance, and GF and use Celica's Gale/Katarina's Bolt than use up a skillslot on Shadowgift. Edited September 6, 2013 by Euklyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djing Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Shadowgift is pretty overrated. The best class to abuse dark magic is already sorcerer so why bother? A Dark Knight with a Sage pairup might make good use of it but the extra benefits aren't worth it imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) Shadowgift is pretty overrated. The best class to abuse dark magic is already sorcerer so why bother? A Dark Knight with a Sage pairup might make good use of it but the extra benefits aren't worth it imo. Flying NosTanking > NosTanking Edited September 6, 2013 by Elieson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Ruin with its 55 crit at base isn't good enough for you or something? I'd honestly rather run a forged Katarina's Bolt than Ruin. That aside, Tharja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euklyd Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Flying NosTanking > NosTanking Flying Vantage-Vengeance w/ Celica's Gale > Flying NosTanking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) My only regret with Avatar/Aversa is the inability to have a Dread Fighter with Dark magic because that Morgan is always female. She does have a pretty sweet hair color too. Edited September 6, 2013 by Woodshooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Flying NosTanking > NosTanking Yes. Shadowgrandmaster morgan sounds pretty cool It can be. I did it once. It was fun times. Oh btw, Aversa. Because...because. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Motendra Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 The only Dark Magic worth using, IMO, is Waste (or Nosferatu/Aversa's Night when I'm feeling lazy). Shadowgift lets you use that on a Sage, so it's basically giving you much less Def, 2 more Mag, and Staves in exchange for a skill slot. That seems like a pretty poor trade. You forget about Goetia, the second strongest tome in the game. That's all I have to say about this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Shadowgift is bad yeah nosferatu on a flying unit with galefarce is so bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canto Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) You forget about Goetia, the second strongest tome in the game. That's all I have to say about this If you're going for power, why would you ever run Goetia over Valflame? Neither of them deal effective damage, IIRC...? They're both still worse than Celica's Gale/Waste, regardless. Edited September 7, 2013 by Canto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djing Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Flying NosTanking > NosTanking Arrows and Wind magic equal dead nostanking. Besides, you could just use a Dark Flier to ferry a Sorcerer around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorin Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Go Tharja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I only say Aversa, because of her name. I love saying it. UH-VERSE-UH. hahahah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yay Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Aversa for the confession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurath8 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Tharja. Two Morgans > Shadowgift Morgan imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) So we are comparing beetwen: 1 Morgan with exclusive access to a shitty skill vs 2 Morgan with solid mods Unless you have sexual preferences or sexual preferences to shitty skill, the answer is obvious Edited September 7, 2013 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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