shadowofchaos Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 everything huehuehue like how to ride a horse and shit ロイ： 『騎乗位』・・・ですか・・・？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionordeQuester Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 To whoever said that Rath and Lyn's paired ending mentioned them having a daughter named Sue, actually, all it said was... They had a daughter and lived happily in the plains. No mention of Sue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Rath's father is Dayan. Dayan's granddaughter is Sue. No other sons or daughters of Dayan have been confirmed to exist. It doesn't exactly take a genius to put 6 and 9 together and figure out if Rath and Lyn got it on, their daughter was most definitely Sue. ロイ： 『騎乗位』・・・ですか・・・？ "What is "cowgirl" · · ·: Roy?" That can't be right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionordeQuester Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) Rath's father is Dayan. Dayan's granddaughter is Sue. No other sons or daughters of Dayan have been confirmed to exist. It doesn't exactly take a genius to put 6 and 9 together and figure out if Rath and Lyn got it on, their daughter was most definitely Sue. Ah, but the game doesn't say for sure, does it? The way it was stated (by you or whoever else, not sure on that), the evidence was made to look much more decisive than it actually was. Anyways, I would say Hector and Lyn would be the canon ending just based off of how heavily it was implied, with the various conversations throughout the game, ESPECIALLY towards the end, like when Lyn is reduced to tears about Hector's loss in the final Chapter, even WITHOUT a support conversation. Plus, it's the only pairing where the scenario writers went out of their way to make special sequences between the two. EDIT: Then, I guess if we're nitpicking, there's Lyn and Hector's Support Growth being higher than anyone elses, and there's Lilina's hair looking more like Lyn's than anyone elses. Edited October 5, 2013 by FionordeQuester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 EDIT: Then, I guess if we're nitpicking, there's Lyn and Hector's Support Growth being higher than anyone elses, and there's Lilina's hair looking more like Lyn's than anyone elses. Lyn's support with Rath (and Florina) grows at +4 points per turn while her support with Hector grows +3 points per turn. This doesn't take into account that Hector is around in the main story longer than Rath is, but the statement that Lyn and Hector's support growths are higher than anyone else's is factually wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I think it's pretty damn obvious Rath's daughter is Sue, and if Lyn is his wife, she has Sue. I don't know why someone's trying to shoot down an obvious fact. Not if Rath/Lyn is canon, but the fact that if they do get together, their daughter is Sue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionordeQuester Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Lyn's support with Rath (and Florina) grows at +4 points per turn while her support with Hector grows +3 points per turn. This doesn't take into account that Hector is around in the main story longer than Rath is, but the statement that Lyn and Hector's support growths are higher than anyone else's is factually wrong. ...Well shoot. There goes my theory then >_<! Heck, add in the fact that Eliwood/Hector's storyline literally won't let him die in-universe even if he dies in-game, then well...I guess the two really ARE the appropriate pairing! Don't like it as much, since Hector and Florina are kind of weird. I mean really, Florina is so absolutely afraid of men...that her only male support is HECTOR of all people?! Arguably the most manly, most macho, most brutish guy in your entire party?! I dunno, that always struck me as so weird... But whatever. I'm a believer of Rath and Lyn now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWalker Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 It's because she's not afraid of men. It's just that none of them were MANLY enough for her. SHe likes 'em big, if you know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 ...Well shoot. There goes my theory then >_<! Heck, add in the fact that Eliwood/Hector's storyline literally won't let him die in-universe even if he dies in-game, then well...I guess the two really ARE the appropriate pairing! Don't like it as much, since Hector and Florina are kind of weird. I mean really, Florina is so absolutely afraid of men...that her only male support is HECTOR of all people?! Arguably the most manly, most macho, most brutish guy in your entire party?! I dunno, that always struck me as so weird... But whatever. I'm a believer of Rath and Lyn now. Welcome brother! *clears throat* Why else can Florina be the only PK to ferry promoted Hector? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 It's because she's not afraid of men. It's just that none of them were MANLY enough for her. SHe likes 'em big, if you know what I mean. likes dem footlongs huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM ME MARIANNE ART Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Florina x Dart. What if? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I wish Florina supported with Dart, Dorcas, Bartre, and Hawkeye in addition to her support with Hector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionordeQuester Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 She wouldn't be able to be with Dorcas though. And Bartre already has an obvious pairing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Don't shoot down my ships. :< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) But whatever. I'm a believer of Rath and Lyn now. I'm actually surprised they *DIDN'T* use Hector x Lyn in the game novels considering the talk events. Edited October 5, 2013 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Jam Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) Ah, but the game doesn't say for sure, does it? The way it was stated (by you or whoever else, not sure on that), the evidence was made to look much more decisive than it actually was. Unless Dayan had other children besides Rath, Rath had to be Sue's father. And I'm pretty sure that Rath was Dayan's only child. Rath certainly didn't say anything about having any brothers or sisters. Edited October 5, 2013 by Paper Jam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) I honestly normally don't use support growth as point for canonicity. Simply because there are some pairs that can't really be done in a reasonable timeframe and/or make you have to go out of your way just to make them happen. To say nothing that if support growths were valid, then Finn/Bridget would be considered more canon than Finn/Raquesis is by fans. But I digress. ...Well shoot. There goes my theory then >_<! Heck, add in the fact that Eliwood/Hector's storyline literally won't let him die in-universe even if he dies in-game, then well...I guess the two really ARE the appropriate pairing!Rath's death quote is admittedly kinda vague on the subject of whether he dies or not, though. (To say nothing of the fact that Lyn/Rath is about as canon as Sumia/Gaius is. Don't like it as much, since Hector and Florina are kind of weird. I mean really, Florina is so absolutely afraid of men...that her only male support is HECTOR of all people?! Arguably the most manly, most macho, most brutish guy in your entire party?! I dunno, that always struck me as so weird...One of the main reasons why I don't like Hector/Florina (to say the least) is precisely the fact that they're what you just described. The fact that 90% of their interaction occurs in the A support doesn't help. Granted, it's the most similar to Chrom/Olivia, but at least Chrom and Olivia actually get some interaction going in the C support, and shortly after Mustafa is defeated. But whatever. I'm a believer of Rath and Lyn now. I seriously hope that was sarcasm. I'm actually surprised they *DIDN'T* use Hector x Lyn in the game novels considering the talk events.Well, Nintendo and I.S. did have zero input in writing the "Elibe Disturbance" novels. (Especially considering who published it.) I would imagine the reason why Hector/Lyn wasn't included in the novels in question is likely the same reason why Jagen is killed off in the FE1 drama CD, and the same reason why whoever wrote the Valkyria Chronicles anime opted to shoehorn Faldio/Alicia just to make a Welkin/Alicia/Faldio love triangle when Juno/Welkin/Alicia and Welkin/Alicia/Noce was sufficient enough, and could have been given some expounding. (Adaptations. Go figure.) Edited October 5, 2013 by Just call me Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) Granted, it's the most similar to Chrom/Olivia, but at least Chrom and Olivia actually get some interaction going in the C support, and shortly after Mustafa is defeated. ...Which never happens if you marry them. I seriously hope that was sarcasm. I'm pretty sure you dislike Lyn x Rath more than I do Chrom x Olivia. Edited October 5, 2013 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 So they used Ninian x Eliwood, Lyn x Rath, and Florina x Hector in a novel thingy? I'm okay with that. They are the true pairings after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWalker Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Wait they killed off Jagen? SCREW YOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) Wait they killed off Jagen? In an FE1 CD drama. Gharnef kills him. Ask the person who wrote this if you don't believe. Of course the CD drama in question, like the "Elibe Disturbance" novels, are adaptational retellings of the source materials, which are non-canon by default. So I wouldn't worry about it too much. Edited October 5, 2013 by Just call me Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Al what's wrong with Rath/Lyn. Seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 (edited) Lack of chemistry. And the fact that there's people that actually (somehow) think that Sue's existence automatically precludes any chance of Lyn winding up with someone not named Rath. Such arguments from the people in question are very much like the "Priam is Mist's descendant" arguments if you ask me. (And such arguments are the foremost reasons why I dislike Lyn/Rath.) Edited October 6, 2013 by Just call me Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 You do realize that "lack of chemistry between Lyn and Rath" is an opinion and not a fact, right? You don't see any chemistry between them, that's perfectly fine. However, I think that Hector and Lyn clash too much to be compatible and their interactions don't feel romantic to me. That is also an opinion and perfectly fine. Sometimes you go around acting like Hector/Lyn has already been declared canon and other pairings such as Lyn/Rath and Hector/Florina are automatically wrong. If you don't like it, that's fine. But you have a tendency to sound like you're shoving your pairing in other people's faces and calling it "wrong". There is no canon unless IS says so. Therefore, until they say there is a canon, Lyn/Rath and Hector/Florina are just as canon as Hector/Lyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 I don't even get how what I'm actually saying can even be interpreted as something else. But I guess that can be attributed to me feeling like that I've seen one too many arguments that involve the person act like Lyn's literally the only person who can get together with Rath when the possibility of Rath/Generic still exists, among other things. But what I'm saying really shouldn't be interpreted as me thinking that whatever pairs I'm arguing against are automatically wrong. Especially since I'm saying nothing of the sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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