RJWalker Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 That's noce and all but why would anyone continue attacking it with physical sweepers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Pokemon killing power/tanking calculations vs Melee frame data (yes Melee only, otherwise it's boring unless it's to laugh at how OP Meta Knight is) go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Greninja is... meh? I mean it looks cool and all but its fae resemble's a fox's more than a frog's. ugh. SHIT DELPHOX WHY DO YOU LOOK SO DISGUSTING DARN YOU GAMEFREAK WHY DO YOU MAKE IT LOOK SO BAD? Chesnaught looks awesome actually. Bunnelby WHAT A GREAT EVOLUTION YOU HAVE- MY ASS! Underwhelming that the pokedex has uh mostly past gen pokemon and less of Gen 6 pokemon. ;_; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) let's see, favorite starters (starter/final form): gen 1: Squirtle/Charizard gen 2: Cyndaquil/Feraligatr gen 3: Mudkip/Blaziken gen 4: Piplup/Empoleon gen 5: Snivy/Serperior gen 6: not Chespin/Froakie's final evo (forgot the name) tl;dr version: water types are cool, recent fire types are lame, grass sucks unless you're Smug Snivy Edited October 3, 2013 by shadykid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimmachi Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) Is there confirmation on which rivals get which starters? BTW all of the Instagram dude's pictures relating to XY got nicked. Ow. Edited October 3, 2013 by Sakocchi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnor97 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Is there confirmation on which rivals get which starters? BTW all of the Instagram dude's pictures relating to XY got nicked. Ow. Apparently, IIRC, only the little girl (Shauna) and the opposite gendered MC get actual starters, with Shauna getting the weak-type one, and the other MC getting the stronger-type one. The big guy (Tierno) apparently gets a Corphish, and the short dude (Trevor) gets a Pikachu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) Looks like I'm gonna duck out now. See you guys at release I do think I'll probably be back before then, lol One more thing, we haven't seen Orotto(whatever his english name is) yet, have we? 0.o Edited October 3, 2013 by L95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 http://images.4chan.org/vp/src/1380806245782.JPG Make that what you will. Seems to be bug > rock > fighting > grass > electric > ??? > water > ice (ugh, stupid ice gym puzzles). I think one of the early trailers had some room with fiery pillars so a fire type Elite 4 might be possible. Either that or ground (magma) or dragon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vashiane Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 http://images.4chan.org/vp/src/1380806245782.JPG Make that what you will. Seems to be bug > rock > fighting > grass > electric > ??? > water > ice (ugh, stupid ice gym puzzles). I think one of the early trailers had some room with fiery pillars so a fire type Elite 4 might be possible. Either that or ground (magma) or dragon. I heard a rumor that there IS a dark gym, so that might be the mystery shape... maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Grant is the second gym leader, gives you Rock Tomb as a prize, and his team is Amoura and Tyrunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 gives you Rock Tomb as a prize Now that's a bit of a let down. Couldn't they think of a new Rock type move to make a TM out of? I'd even get Smack Down over Rock Tomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Also 6th gym is supposedly a Fairy-type gym. So Bug -> Rock -> Fighting -> Grass -> Electric -> Fairy -> Water -> Ice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Interesting typing lineup for Gyms, though the lack of a Dark type gym is still going to fluster some. Any ideas what kind of Pokémon Team Flair uses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I believe someone said that they had a Houndour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 As long as it's not as easy to trivialize as Team Plasma with its general weakness to Fighting types (the odd Trubbish aside), I'm pretty much ok with whatever they can come up with. The more diverse, the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djeets Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 just hope that they don't end up using "classy" pokemons like persian or purrloin...>.<, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) Mega Venusaur's stats are somewhere around: 80 HP / 100 Atk / 120 Def / 100 SpA / 120 SpD / 80Spe Which gives it a BST of 600. Mega Lucario's stats were calculated to be around: 70 HP / 145 Atk / 70 Def / 140 SpA / 70 SpD / 115 Spe which is a BST of 610. DUAL TYPE MOVES CONFIRMED! "Apparently, Team Flare "wants to keep things beautiful forever.. even if it means destroying the world. Cause that makes sense some how i guess." Calling them now Team Oliver. :P Edited October 3, 2013 by Professor Palutena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Dual type moves... Oh heaven have mercy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 STAB calculations are going to be fun to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Caluclating these is probably going to be easier than we think. It's not like there will be multiple attacks. It just hits at the same time. Like some examples of how I think it's probably going to be: Flying Press vs Parasect: Bug resists Fighting (0.5). Grass is neutral against Fighting (1). Bug is weak to Flying (2). Grass is weak to Flying (2) 0.5 x 1 x 2 x 2 = x2 effectiveness Flying Press vs Golurk. Ground is neutral against Flying (1) and neutral against Fighting (1). Ghost is neutral against Flying (1) and immune to Fighting (0) 1 x 1 x 1 x 0 = Immunity STAB is either going to the type of the move (in this case, it's a fighting type move) or both types the move is (which would mean that Hawlucha gets double STAB on it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Fire/Flying attack from a Fire/Flying Pokemon versus Parasect with Dry Skin:(Dry Skin weakness to Fire) x2(Bug weakness to Fire) x2(Bug weakness to Flying) x2(Grass weakness to Fire) x2(Grass weakness to Flying) x2That's a good x32 multiplier, more with STAB. YEAHHHHHHHH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breezy Kanzaki Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 ............. What. Dual Type Moves. What. What. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_Cero Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Though dual type moves aren't as hard as I thought it would be to calculate effectiveness. It's still gonna be a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breezy Kanzaki Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Caluclating these is probably going to be easier than we think. It's not like there will be multiple attacks. It just hits at the same time. Like some examples of how I think it's probably going to be: Flying Press vs Parasect: Bug resists Fighting (0.5). Grass is neutral against Fighting (1). Bug is weak to Flying (2). Grass is weak to Flying (2) 0.5 x 1 x 2 x 2 = x2 effectiveness Flying Press vs Golurk. Ground is neutral against Flying (1) and neutral against Fighting (1). Ghost is neutral against Flying (1) and immune to Fighting (0) 1 x 1 x 1 x 0 = Immunity STAB is either going to the type of the move (in this case, it's a fighting type move) or both types the move is (which would mean that Hawlucha gets double STAB on it). Ground is not neutral against Flying.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Ground is not neutral against Flying.... Ground takes neutral damage from Flying type moves would be more like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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