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Things in the Fates meta that look bannable?  

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  1. 1. (tick many) What looks bannable in the Fates meta?

    • Dragon Ward (Hoshido Noble)
    • Life or Death (Master of Arms)
    • Counter (Oni Chieftain)
    • Darting Blow (Sky Knight)
    • Multiple Amaterasu (Kinshi Knight)
    • Wary Fighter (General)
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    • Inspiration (Strategist)
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    • Aggressor (Dread Fighter)
    • Galeforce (Dark Falcon)
    • Awakening (Great Lord)
    • Dancing Blade (Lodestar)
    • Ban ALL DLC/Amiibo skills.
    • Other (state what)
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Doesn't Laguz Band transform the royals forever? I thought it acted like RD. And I didn't know that about laguz. I only used Lethe and Mordy ever in PoR and i never noticed how much laguz gauge drops each turn because I go too fast

The transformation gauge changes the same for everyone in PoR.

The Laguz Band works exactly as you said; the problem is that my Tibarn is equipped with a Full Guard.

And wow, I'm stupid for not using swords with Makalov (which he obviously has). Guess playing two games simultaneously is a predicament for sucking.

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Espinosa's Team:

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The Protown SK's Team:

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Turn 4

Espinosa's Marcia (Wishblade) attacks The Protown SK's Muarim (Claw)!

20x2 damage 90% hit 3% crit 13% skill

(49 38 0 23)

Critical hit! Muarim takes 60 damage!

(10 57 70 9)

Marcia activates Stun! Muarim takes 1 damage!

The Protown SK's Muarim was defeated!

Stats:

Espinosa

Rolf 45/45

Zihark 45/45

Marcia 13/43

Kieran 50/50

Tauroneo 48/52

The Protown SK

Tauroneo 52/52

Rolf 0/45

Marcia 0/43

Zihark 45/45

Muarim 0/61

The Protown SK acts next!

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[spoiler=see teams here]

Espinosa's Team:

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Hawkeye's Team:

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Turn 8

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Hawkeye's Ilyana (Rexbolt) attacks Espinosa's Makalov (Silver Axe+)!

29 dmg 100% Hit 10% Crit 27% Skill

(80 40 9 22)

Ilyana activates Flare! Makalov's RES has been cut in half! (-5)

It's a critical hit!

Makalov receives 102 damage!

Makalov has been finished off! Ilyana survives the fight!

Espinosa

Ike 52/52

Oscar 49/49

Makalov owned

Brom 0/55

Tibarn 66/66

Hawkeye

Tibarn 66/66 (11/20)

Ike 52/52

Gatrie 53/59

Ilyana 39/39

Oscar 21/49

Espinosa acts next!

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I was thinking of that, but for some reason I thought my only viable option was the brave axe *facepalm*

As Espinosa said, being involved in two games at the same time makes things pretty confusing

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Hawkeye, why am I not doubling (to add insult to injury)? Pretty sure we never agreed to let non-royals take the Laguz Band and Muarim transformed on turn 1 and has a pretty bad gauge otherwise. 28 AS vs 24 AS.

PKL (and everyone else who might run a game), Luna and Flare lower the def/res stat 1 point more if the number is odd (11 res becomes 5 res).

Is Gatrie even possible to take down without magic?

Non-Laguzguard variants don't fight Giffcas and Tibarns well, still requiring a few rounds to succumb to the sustained attacking. Ones without Full Guard get walloped by Hammers (can't dodge shit). Knight Ward is a minor thing most of the time; Nepenthe is the only user of it that doesn't need a Full Guard for anything (lolDanved).

The Full Guard Gatries pretty much demand Ilyana (who is the second must-have unit after Ike; we don't know if Lucia/Nasir compromise this just yet). Otherwise, Luna/Aether procs to cut through that defence.

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[spoiler=see teams here]

Espinosa's Team:

tpz7.png cq4w.pngplz9.png3jbw.pngudry.png

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Hawkeye's Team:

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Turn 9

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Espinosa's Ike (Silver Sword+) attacks Hawkeye's Oscar (Brave Axe)!

20 dmg 91% Hit 0% Crit 27% Skill

(23)

Ike activates Aether!

Ike attacks with Sol!

(63 49 95)

Oscar receives 20 damage! Ike heals 0 HP!

Ike attacks with Luna! Oscar's DEF has been cut in half! (12)

(47 41 77)

Oscar receives 32 damage!

Oscar falls! Ike survives the fight!

Espinosa

Ike 52/52

Oscar 49/49

Makalov owned

Brom 0/55

Tibarn 66/66 (8/20)

Hawkeye

Tibarn 66/66 (11/20)

Ike 52/52

Gatrie 53/59

Ilyana 39/39

Oscar fell

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Players (like me in this match) make decisions based on the numbers they have seen previously in the match and figure which item the target had equipped (namely the KW).

This also means you can bluff your opponent by sending in a team with incomplete supports (like Ilyana x Gatrie C), giving the other player the wrong idea. Pretty fun, and dondon's idea of removing scouting (something I don't quite see being emulatable in forum post format, not to mention do not like at all from the gameplay perspective) wouldn't even enable this nifty aspect of the metagame to exist.

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Espinosa's Team:

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The Protown SK's Team:

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Turn 6

The Protown SK's Zihark (Brave Sword) attacks Espinosa's Marcia (Wishblade)!

13x2 damage 55% hit 8% crit 14% skill

(53)

(69 54 64)

Zihark misses!

(30)

(54 68 97)

Zihark misses!

Marcia counters!

24 damage 100% hit 0% crit 13% skill

(72 87 12 28)

Zihark takes 24 damage!

Both sides survived the fight!

Stats:

Espinosa

Rolf 45/45

Zihark 45/45

Marcia 13/43

Kieran 50/50

Tauroneo 48/52

The Protown SK

Tauroneo 52/52

Rolf 0/45

Marcia 0/43

Zihark 21/45

Muarim 0/61

Espinosa acts next!

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Alright, sorry it seems I messed up big on that. I assumed KW on all armors and mounts up to now. Didn't remember it has a limit per team. I won't tell who has what, though you can probably deduce from this:

Gatrie's new HP total is 49/59

Espinosa's Makalov is the biggest thing.

When Makalov first attacked Oscar, he was supposed to take 20 damage total not 16.

Putting him at 31/51 HP

and then Ilyana's next attack should've OHKO'd. I think we should replay from there unless both parties agree to proceed.

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I'm fine with proceeding. We're still working out kinks and I would rather get more games completed so we can have a better grasp of what we're doing. TBH I'm actually just really sick and all my mental energy is going into moderating the other game so I don't really want to think about this game at all.

Assuming Espinosa is also fine to continue, I'll rexbolt Ike.

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I was about to say it's up to Hawkeye as the side benefiting from re-doing things. If he's fine, then we proceed.

I'm surprised Elieson didn't go for the kill with an accurate forge (though he might not have one?).

My action against Elieson will come in a moment.

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Alright. Also, this is very unfortunate for espinosa. I kinda feel bad at what got rolled here by random.org :/

[spoiler=see teams here]

Espinosa's Team:

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Hawkeye's Team:

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Turn 10

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Hawkeye's Ilyana (Rexbolt) attacks Espinosa's Ike (Silver Sword+)!

23 dmg 65% Hit 5% Crit 27% Skill

(16 90 0 49)

It's a critical hit!

Ike receives 69 damage!

Ike falls! Ilyana survives the fight!

Espinosa

Ike 0/52 haxed

Oscar 49/49

Makalov owned

Brom 0/55

Tibarn 66/66 (8/20)

Hawkeye

Tibarn 66/66 (8/20)

Ike 52/52

Gatrie 49/59

Ilyana 39/39

Oscar fell

Espinosa acts next!

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