NobodiePichu Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Why even go with alternate universes? In my headcanon, Awakening's plot never happens. cause than i cant make fun or denounce it. i hate much of awakening and its plot but really no point in pretending that it never happened, i still denounce it anyways. Expanding on timetravel is unnecessary if you go with the logical solution that solves all paradoxes... The one that the game uses, and outright states it uses... "Everett Interpretation", or "Many Worlds Theory". this still brings up problems, the game never states that the "Many Worlds Theory" is exactly the case either, it just sort of states that Lucina and the children characters traveled back in time and that's that. it does have alternate worlds yes but it doesn't really define what type of time travel there going for and that's the problem. yes you can use evidence to prove what the basis of time travel there using is but by not defining it from a story and narrative perspective they have created a big no no and blast a giant plot hole in there story, or in a metaphorical wording "it shot it self in the foot." although plot holes in certain instances can perhaps work if you leaving thing open ended or going more for a strong message or metaphor of a theme it can perhaps work but here it is used as a contrived plot device to have children character and could have easily been worked out of the story with out really hurting it in anyway. then again awakening has other problems with out the time travel but as it is the time travel really kills it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMajor Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Even though I always stick Owain in a magic class (and I'd be crazy not to), I always occupy one of his skillslots with a real Mystletainn. My associated headcanon: Avatar gives him Mystletainn, but instead of engaging in his usual glib repartee, he's so stunned/touched by the gift that he starts tearing up and gives the Avatar a big hug. Even though it weighs him down a bit in battle, he straps on his old sheath underneath his Sage robes and keeps the sacred blade in it for every fight. He may not tell the avatar so, but he draws more strength from how thoughtful the gift was than the actual power of the blade itself. (after his display of genuine affection, the avatar decides not to tell him that there are 17 more sitting in the convoy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 this still brings up problems, the game never states that the "Many Worlds Theory" is exactly the case either, it just sort of states that Lucina and the children characters traveled back in time and that's that. it does have alternate worlds yes but it doesn't really define what type of time travel there going for and that's the problem. yes you can use evidence to prove what the basis of time travel there using is but by not defining it from a story and narrative perspective they have created a big no no and blast a giant plot hole in there story, or in a metaphorical wording "it shot it self in the foot." although plot holes in certain instances can perhaps work if you leaving thing open ended or going more for a strong message or metaphor of a theme it can perhaps work but here it is used as a contrived plot device to have children character and could have easily been worked out of the story with out really hurting it in anyway. then again awakening has other problems with out the time travel but as it is the time travel really kills it. It does specifically do so though. Cit: Yarne/Father A. Cit: Morgan's Solo Ending. [Or Morgan(M)'s ending] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Even though I always stick Owain in a magic class (and I'd be crazy not to), I always occupy one of his skillslots with a real Mystletainn. My associated headcanon: Avatar gives him Mystletainn, but instead of engaging in his usual glib repartee, he's so stunned/touched by the gift that he starts tearing up and gives the Avatar a big hug. Even though it weighs him down a bit in battle, he straps on his old sheath underneath his Sage robes and keeps the sacred blade in it for every fight. He may not tell the avatar so, but he draws more strength from how thoughtful the gift was than the actual power of the blade itself. (after his display of genuine affection, the avatar decides not to tell him that there are 17 more sitting in the convoy) This makes sense with Loki!Avatar in ways you can never imagine. Ahahahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodiePichu Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 It does specifically do so though. Cit: Yarne/Father A. Cit: Morgan's Solo Ending. [Or Morgan(M)'s ending] the wording in the avatars yarnes A support allures to "different versions of time" not exactly the many worlds theory, just different timelines, so yes there is hints to the idea of the many worlds theory, however i am looking for a clear definition here and that is not a clear definition and then theirs Lucina's and the other children characters fears of drastically changing the past until its far too different from original events is unfounded as it is a different world entirely. Lucina's motivation for traveling back is to change the future not create a better future for that world implying there is a singular future showing that the very definition of the time travel is not consistent, there is also yarnes entire character setup of being afraid of disappearing from existence if his parents split up is unfounded as well as not only would he not disappear if it was a different world, but it would be a completely different person born not him so his primary concern would in reality be surviving if it was a different worlds theory. i admit that the different worlds theory is probably the most reasonable explanation for time travel in awakening how ever the game takes no real time to explain this problem or even to really work it into the central plot, its just an add on to make the game appeal to more people with several different fan service gimmicks such as marriage, time travel in itself, character types to ship, and various other. in short the time travel is simply just not properly explained or eased into the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlee Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 My headcanon is future!Avatar actually produces twin Morgans; (cue Future Past with both of them exist) But only 1 of them went to met our Avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 That's not really male Morgan lol. That's an Avatar made to resemble him. I can tell because the hair is different. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 That ain't Morgan. His mug isn't derpy enough. Imposter Morgan-F works much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlee Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Eh? But I think impostor male Morgan is much better than the female one Look: Female Morgans Male Morgans Male Morgans looks totally the same except that bang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 I agree, Male Morgan Avatar looks much closer to the real Morgan than Female Morgan Avatar. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) They're close enough to have the "Morgan Problem": Morgan Problem: Because Morgan is as a model and as a base character design, merely a build 2 MU, in fanart, Morgans who are alone or without their family are indistinguishable from MUs in most scenarios. Although it's an unfair solution, I simply say that all indistinguishable Morgans are MU, regardless of what you have to say. And for a small, pointless head canon: See how Gerome is on the ground and Severa is on a Wyvern? She's borrowing Minerva. Edited March 12, 2014 by Airship Canon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairlee Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 yeah, they should have given both Morgans more distinguishable hairstyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuvarkz Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 They're close enough to have the "Morgan Problem": Morgan Problem: Because Morgan is as a model and as a base character design, merely a build 2 MU, in fanart, Morgans who are alone or without their family are indistinguishable from MUs in most scenarios. Although it's an unfair solution, I simply say that all indistinguishable Morgans are MU, regardless of what you have to say. And for a small, pointless head canon: See how Gerome is on the ground and Severa is on a Wyvern? She's borrowing Minerva. That's the standard blue wyvern skin. Minervykins has her own unique color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMajor Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 And for a small, pointless head canon: See how Gerome is on the ground and Severa is on a Wyvern? She's borrowing Minerva. As much as I love this one, can you really see Gerome lending Minerva to Severa, of all people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Minervykins has her own unique color. Oh noooes it's like the reclass is of a generic palette or something. Screw everyone. There are two "Morgans". "Mark" and "Morgan". And they're Male MU and Female MU's kids. Together. Because screw everyone's waifus and husbandos. They both have black hair as their default hair color. Edited March 12, 2014 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Screw everyone. There are two "Morgans". "Mark" and "Morgan". And they're Male MU and Female MU's kids. Together. Because screw everyone's waifus and husbandos. They both have black hair as their default hair color. I can buy into this headcanon. Do male MU and female MU have their default white hair colors too? Because apparently two white haired people produce two black haired people XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato123 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 My headcanon is that [insert reader of this post's waifu] dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeoandReo Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 In my headcanon, Henry's biggest dream is to be used as a ritual sacrifice, Gaius spent time in Guantanamo Bay, and Lucina and Morgan's last known descendant was Charles II of Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 My headcanon is that [insert reader of this post's waifu] dies. Discrimination. There are females in this forum that have husbandos that deserve to die too, ya know. In my headcanon, Henry's biggest dream is to be used as a ritual sacrifice Not in Japanese he doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANRYU Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) I like to ship the unmarriable characters, like Walhart x Aversa and Emmeryn x Gangrel. My main headcanon is one that I think a lot of people have, which is that the reason there are so many Annas in Awakening is because one of them figured out how to abuse the Outrealm Gate to spawn an infinite number of Annas from the infinite number of parallel universes. My headcanon is that the Avatar is either Validar's adopted child or Validar was lying and they're completely unrelated. Because I hated that "plot twist" and Validar more than words can describe.My headcanon is Validar was a figment of Avatar's imagination/Gangrel in a costume. Heh, I have a similar one to this. I like to pretend that MU in Awakening is the same as my tactician in FE7 who somehow fell through the Outrealm gate into Plegia, where he was adopted by Validar-slash-bred to be the perfect vessel for Grima, which would probably have something to do with being from another dimension to begin with. Details are sketchy. In my headcanon, Henry's biggest dream is to be used as a ritual sacrifice, Gaius spent time in Guantanamo Bay, and Lucina and Morgan's last known descendant was Charles II of Spain. I'm pretty sure the Henry thing is actually canon, given his ending when he's single. Although... Not in Japanese he doesn't. Not familiar with this in the JP version… care to elaborate? Edited March 13, 2014 by BANRYU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Discrimination. There are females in this forum that have husbandos that deserve to die too, ya know. Says the guy who hasn't done a husbando execution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Henry's biggest dream is to be used as a ritual sacrifice This is totally canon. Especially in my runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 Says the guy who hasn't done a husbando execution. I dunno, I think I've seen him let Frederick die on purpose. For obvious reasons. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald Ink Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) Eh, waifus and husbandos are overrated. Clearly everyone is involved in a constant polyamorus orgy, especially since it's a lot more enjoyable for everyone involved than selective eugenics breeding. Edited March 13, 2014 by Emerald Ink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roivann Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Eh, waifus and husbandos are overrated. Clearly everyone is involved in a constant polyamorus orgy, especially since it's a lot more enjoyable for everyone involved than selective eugenics breeding.Woah. Just imagine all the Galeforce that would come from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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