Chiki Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) This playthrough should be pretty much perfect apart from one turn cut in Chapter 2, which would take thousands of tries. I highly doubt any other turns can be shaved. Video playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ8w77MvvLwqWS_liXlsmvu6pqNtRdTuS Team:Ike: A Soren, B OscarMarcia: A Tanith, B KieranOscar: A Kieran, B IkeKieran: A Oscar, B Marcia Tanith: A Marcia, B ReysonSoren: A IkeBoyd: B MistMist: B Boyd, B Mordecai Turns: P: 4 turns 1: 2 turns 2: 4 turns 3: 3 turns 4: 2 turns 5: 6 turns 6: 4 turns 7: 4 turns 8: 8 turns 9: 6 turns 10: 3 turns 11: 3 turns 12: 2 turns 13: 7 turns 14: 2 turns 15: 2 turns 16: 4 turns 17: 15 turns 18: 6 turns 19: 1 turn 20: 2 turns 21: 4 turns 22: 1 turn 23: 3 turns 24: 2 turns 25: 2 turns 26: 2 turns 27: 4 turns 28: 2 turns 29: 2 turns Total: 112 turns Top 10: 10. Largo - 3 wins 9. Mordecai - 4 wins 8. Gatrie - 10 wins 7. Kieran - 47 wins 6. Ike - 52 wins 5. Boyd - 54 wins 4. Titania - 58 wins 3. Oscar - 61 wins 2. Marcia - 89 wins 1. Soren - 103 wins Unit Analysis: Ike: Not as good as previous runs, mainly because he got replaced by Soren. His 20 magic was still essential in Chapter 23, but once that Sonic Sword got close to breaking he became more of a liability until he got Resolve. I also wish I rigged more resistance levels, since he kept falling asleep due to enemy Sleep staves. Marcia: Still the best unit in an LTC run, despite Soren getting more kills than her. Boots Marcia is just essential in almost every LTC run due to her gigantic move and breaking able to carry your units around. Her combat is pretty bad though, and I think Boots Jill would have done a lot better in terms of killing enemy units with forged Hand Axes. Then again, recruiting Jill costs a few turns and her speed doesn't let her double some bosses either. Soren: I'm amazed at how good he was. He was my main Rescue user along with Mist, and my most powerful unit until Resolve + Wrath Ike showed up. He allowed me to 2 turn 24, 25 and 28, among other things. With high crit, Vantage, Adept and Provoke, he was nearly invincible throughout the game, and a very reliable combat unit despite his low durability. His Rescue staff came in handy in a few chapters like 24, 26 and 28. He also allowed me to kill bosses like Bertram and Hafedd without needing to rely on a Marcia crit, and get rid of those laguz in Ike's way on 28. Titania: My second-best unit overall in terms of turnshaving. Amazing for the first few chapters, but kinda became a liability after that. I think the main reason I had so much more bexp in this run compared to previous runs was because I needed to give less to other units, due to not using Titania as much. Kinda overrated compared to the goddess that is Marcia. Tanith: Really great flier. She's the only flier I can sacrifice for Chapter 28 (the other being Jill, who I didn't recruit) and she was really handy in Chapters 20 for arriving, 21 for handing Ike to Marcia, 23 for getting Blizzard and 25 for killing a bunch of enemies. She took both of my Energy Drops so she could reliably kill enemies with a forged Javelin in Chapter 25. Her death was essential for the 2 turn in 28. Oscar: Still a handy, reliable unit, essential for a 4-turn of Chapter 27. The main reason he was trained was because he makes a good pair with Kieran in getting the Resolve scroll. Kieran: Not anywhere near as good as Oscar due to poorer availability. It amazes me how people can put Kieran above Oscar in a tier list. He's a good unit, but there's barely any differences between him and Oscar apart from availability. Boyd: He barely did anything. Kinda useless. I trained him for Chapter 25 but he killed like 2 frigging enemies! I don't remember what else he did. He was kind of inconsequential. Mist: My other Rescue user. She came in handy in chapters like 24 and 27, but it's too bad that her combat really sucks. It would have helped a lot in 24 if it was better, since then I wouldn't have had to give Shade to her and I could've given it to Rhys instead. Rhys: My only regret is that I didn't level him up and increase his speed a little bit more. I would've had a much easier time trying to get the warrior to attack Tanith that way. Handy for Hammerne uses in 24 and 25 and Rescue in 28. An important unit for any LTC run. Reyson: One of the best units, maybe right below Marcia or Titania. I'm not sure if he's better than Titania. Essential for any normal LTC run. I wish I gave him some more bexp to increase his avoid a lot more for 28. Mordecai: The best shover/smite user, especially thanks to his amazing weight. He can even shove/smite promoted Oscar and Kieran. One of the best units in the game. Muarim: Not nearly as good as Mordecai, but he was still useful once I gave him the Smite scroll. Lethe: Another good shover, thanks to her high move and weight. Demi Band Muarim is still the better choice for Smite thanks to his higher weight though. Resource Distribution: Seraph Robe: Reyson Speedwings 1 and 2: Reyson Ashera Icon: Reyson Shade: Mist Energy Drop 1 and 2: Tanith Dracoshield: Marcia Arms Scrolls 1 and 2: Soren (wind and fire) Spirit Dust: Soren Vantage: Soren Wrath: Ike Provoke: Soren Resolve: Ike BEXP Distribution: This is all off of the top of my head, so there's likely to be some mistakes. Also, I tend to level up people once if they have like 80-99 exp at the start of a chapter. I won't include those but I'll include the most important distributions. Chapter 8: Soren (up to 17) Chapter 9: Soren (up to 20) Chapter 10: Marcia (up to whatever it says in the video) Chapter 11: Marcia Chapter 12: Marcia (up to 17 strength and 20 speed, her benchmarks to kill the boss) Chapter 16: Ike, Oscar and Kieran (all up to level 20) Chapter 22: Mist (up to level 17 for capped magic) Chapter 23: Mist (up to level 3 promoted after using a Master Seal, for 26 magic) Chapter 24: Rhys (promoted him after getting him to level 10) Reyson (to get his avoid up) Chapter 25: Tanith (to get her strength up) and Boyd (so he can kill a cat and a sniper) Chapter 27: Geoffrey (turned out to be useless, give it to Rhys instead) Chapter 28: Rhys Overall, I distributed bexp nearly perfectly, apart from the fact that I should have saved some more to give to Rhys. Important Benchmarks and Items: 1. Ike, Boyd and Soren need to be leveled up well by 7 2. Oscar needs 8 str and 9 spd by 7 3. Soren needs to be promoted some time in 9 4. Oscar needs to be promoted by 17-2 (and Kieran either needs to promote or I need to get the statue frag) 5. Soren needs C in thunder by 22 6. Ike needs 26 strength by 21 and 20 magic by 23 7. Soren needs 30 magic and B staves by 24, as well as very high combat stats by 25 8. Mist needs to cap magic and have B staves by 24 9. Rhys needs to have B staves and high speed by 28 10. Tanith can't have more than 35 hp, 15 def and 16 res by 28 Chapter 1: Steel Sword, Seraph Robe Chapter 3: Elixir Chapter 5: Hammer, Ashera Icon, Torch Chapter 7: Ward, Chest Keys Chapter 8: Red Gem Chapter 10: Master Seal, Chest Keys, Door Keys Chapter 11: Laguzslayer, Dracoshield, Master Seal Chapter 12: Seraph Robe Chapter 13: Energy Drop, Speedwings, Laguz Axe Chapter 14: Vantage, Spirit Dust Chapter 15: Boots, Physic Chapter 16: Full Guard Chapter 18: Wrath, Shade Chapter 20: Smite, Rescue, Provoke Chapter 21: Energy Drop Chapter 22: Bolting Chapter 23: Hammerne, Blizzard Chapter 24: Savior Chapter 27: Resolve Edited June 17, 2014 by Chiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 If it were on Fixed mode yes. If on Random, I would like to see 111 turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xator Nova Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 You don't have idea how much I've waited for something like that.In other words, OF COURSE, SIR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 If it were on Fixed mode yes. If on Random, I would like to see 111 turns. Where'd the other turn cut come from? Chapter 2 is practically impossible for humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Not sure. Its been a long time but I remember thinking 3 turns could be cut from your playthrough. And no, Chp 2 isn't one of them. Honestly, I would rather see 100% recruitment Fixed mode LTC than the same thing as your other playthrough with just 1 or 2 turns less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 Not sure. Its been a long time but I remember thinking 3 turns could be cut from your playthrough. And no, Chp 2 isn't one of them. Honestly, I would rather see 100% recruitment Fixed mode LTC than the same thing as your other playthrough with just 1 or 2 turns less. I believe there's 2. One from 25 with Soren, and maybe one from 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 As long as battle animations are turned off then sure I may watch them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 there's no reason to not go for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) I'm going to start recording, but: I don't have an audio source for some reason. I figured out some strats to 2 turn 24 and 25 with just Rescue Soren and Vantage Soren respectively, I still need Mist though. Elincia's starting position in 26 is very unfortunate, and she's not even in 28. Important benchmarks: 1. Ike, Soren and Boyd need to be leveled up well by 7 2. Oscar needs 8 str and 9 spd by 7 3. Soren needs to be promoted some time in 9 4. Oscar needs to be promoted by 17-2 (and Kieran either needs to promote or I need to get the statue frag) 5. Ike needs 20 magic by 22 6. Soren needs 30 magic and B staves by 24 7. Mist needs to cap magic and have B staves by 26 8. Oscar needs to be strong by 27 9. Kieran needs to be strong by 27 10. Rhys needs to have B staves by 28 11. Tanith can't have more than 35 hp and 15 def by 28 12. Ike needs 25 strength by endgame Important items: Chapter 1: Steel Sword, Seraph Robe Chapter 3: Elixir Chapter 5: Hammer, Ashera Icon, Torch Chapter 7: Ward, Armorslayer, Miracle (if possible), keep Chest Keys Chapter 8: Red Gem Chapter 10: Master Seal, Chest Keys, Door Keys Chapter 11: Laguzslayer, Dracoshield, Master Seal Chapter 12: Seraph Robe Chapter 13: Energy Drop, Speedwings, Occult, Laguz Axe Chapter 14: Vantage, Spirit Dust, Laguz Lance Chapter 15: Boots, Statue Frag, Physic Chapter 16: Full Guard Chapter 17-4: Adept (if possible) Chapter 18: Wrath, Shade, Silence (if possible) Chapter 20: Smite, Rescue, Provoke (if possible) Chapter 21: Brave Sword (if possible) Chapter 22: Bolting Chapter 23: Hammerne, Blizzard Chapter 24: Savior Chapter 27: Resolve Edited June 9, 2014 by Chiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothache Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I prefer to deal with audio and video seperately when encoding anyway, and sync and mux them at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Sounds like a pain for every single vid, but how does it work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) I used another chapter attempt for the rest of the playthrough; my Ike got a bad level up here. The strategy was identical. The sound should be better in the future. Edited May 31, 2014 by Chiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chiki Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 (edited) Youtube uploads insanely slowly for me despite my 5 MB upload speed. I'm not sure why. Edited June 5, 2014 by Chiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) This is where it starts to get interesting, since few, if any, have done a 4 turn of Chapter 7 before. Sound got messed up again. Edited June 6, 2014 by Chiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Why is the Ch5 Ashra Icon so necessary? Is the +2 Hit/Avo that crucial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 Why is the Ch5 Ashra Icon so necessary? Is the +2 Hit/Avo that crucial? I intended to give it to Reyson. The chapter 24 and chapter 28 strats are gonna be nasty and will require Reyson to take a lot of hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 It sells for 4000G for more early forges yo. I'm quite interested in seeing if you pull off the Rescue Soren like I did in that one draft. You have less room for staff spamming due to the nature of this run tho ;/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 It sells for 4000G for more early forges yo. I'm quite interested in seeing if you pull off the Rescue Soren like I did in that one draft. You have less room for staff spamming due to the nature of this run tho ;/ Do you know if Mist goes up to C staves from E staves when she promotes? Since the base staff rank of a valkyrie is C staves. If so, that would help a lot since I could just save a Physic staff for Mist and easily get Soren up to B staves by 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) Do you know if Mist goes up to C staves from E staves when she promotes? Since the base staff rank of a valkyrie is C staves. If so, that would help a lot since I could just save a Physic staff for Mist and easily get Soren up to B staves by 23. Yeah, she does automatically get to C staves. Watching the vids now. Wow, all those oscar and boyd misses at 80%s in Ch2 >_> Edited June 6, 2014 by PKL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) I'll double check just to be safe. In that case, I could just save a Physic staff for Mist and use it all up by chapter 26. I should still train her during chapters to save bexp though. Edited June 6, 2014 by Chiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 It sells for 4000G for more early forges yo Wow...how did I forget about the fund-age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) 9 higher strength than average... Edited June 6, 2014 by Chiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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