Randoman Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I thought I'd make a separate topic for this, so people won't have to dig through the huge SSB4 thread for links to the rumours. Anyways, here are the rumours in question: Little Mac, Mii, and Pac-Man being playable in SSB4 Shulk, Palutena, Chrom, and Chorus Men being playable in SSB4 Pokemon Trainer, Snake, and R.O.B. Cut from SSB4 (needs a link) 48 Playable Characters in SSB4 and 4 Cuts Feel free to provide better links to the rumours or discuss the rumours in general. Also, I'm going to quote myself from the SSB4 rumours regarding the connection/lack of conflict between the rumours: Speaking of rumours, I noticed quite an overlap with the "Pokemon Trainer, Snake, and R.O.B. cut from SSB4" rumour and the "48 characters with 4 cuts for SSB4" rumour. With Charizard being confirmed without the Pokemon Trainer, that implies Ivysaur and Squirtle will be cut. If you add Snake and R.O.B. from the first rumour, you get 4 cut characters (when you count individual playable Pokemon as separate characters) in all: Ivysaur, Squirtle, Snake, and R.O.B. So basically, that would make both rumours true. I guess it'd be too early to tell for sure if those 4 will actually get cut, but it's another thing to watch out for, regarding watching rumours come true and seeing if they hold any weight based on how they compare with future reveals. What's also strange is how much the various rumours aren't contradicting each other, and in fact connect with each other quite well. If the "48 characters and 4 cuts" rumour is true, then we're getting 35 veterans (since Brawl had 39 taking ZSS, Sheik, and Pokemon Trainer's Pokemon into account as separate characters), which leaves us with 13 characters as newcomers.Also, if we throw in that "Pac-Man, Mii, Shulk, Palutena, Chrom, and Chorus Men" rumour (already accounting for Little Mac, the first 3 newcomers, and Greninja being revealed) into the "48 characters and 4 cuts" rumour, that potentially means that the leaker is right about 11 of the 13 newcomers. Rosalina is the only newcomer currently that the leaker didn't know about, so that potentially leaves us with one more newcomer. ...yeah, I know most of you would say "you're putting way too much weight into the rumours," though since we likely won't be getting any major Smash news until E3 and the rumours have been holding some truth in them, I can't help but think they're our best bet as to figuring out what Sakurai hasn't shown yet (especially since no one would've guessed someone like Wii Fit Trainer being in). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Smashboards has an extensive and well-organized list of rumors you could look at. This is a good start though. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randoman Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 Smashboards has an extensive and well-organized list of rumors you could look at. This is a good start though. :) Thanks, though I'm wanting to keep it to plausible and/or "not yet disproven" rumours for this thread, since there's not much reason to post rumours that have officially been disproven as of now. The Little Mac, Pac-Man, and Mii rumour I'm keeping on here despite those three not being shown at E3 2013, since all of those three could still be playable despite not being shown at E3 2013 (Little Mac is confirmed, so the other two might be in the future as well). I should probably post a link to the Smashboards Rumours thread. I'm suprised I didn't see the "Pokemon Trainer, Snake, and R.O.B. cut from SSB4" rumour on the Smashboards rumour compilation. I saw it mentioned quite a bit in our (as in SF's) SSB4 thread, so I thought they'd have something about it in their rumour list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANRYU Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Can I start a rumor? ...I presume it's probably not okay given that the rumor I would start is like 90% wishful thinking lol Hopefully we can find some good ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Smashboards has an extensive and well-organized list of rumors you could look at. This is a good start though. :) I should point out that the rumour thread was just locked and destickied. Best not to use it as a reference as it's been out of date for a long time and won't be updated in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Oh, I hadn't known that. Guess it's not reliable anymore then. :P As for that PT/Snake/ROB rumor, it was posted on Zelda Universe.net somewhere. But I can't recall at all which thread or anything, so I can't dig it up, I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWill Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I don't think the second 'tip' is anything to consider. They're basically just suggesting the most popular Western picks (Pauletna, Shulk and Chrom) and then adding in a really wacky one (Chorus Men) to make it seem legit. Similarly, why would someone who has access to Nintendo's insides simply state 'Pokemon' from XY instead of which Pokemon it actually is. It's not like there are many XY Pokemon that had the chance of being playable either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I put no stock in any of these. The Gematsu links are easy to ignore, but the RosalinaX post is a weird one. I don't know who this person is, but he seems to be known in the community as some sort of insider and the people talking seem to believe what he's saying like they trust him. It's possible they're all just a bunch of idiots being fooled, and I see no reason why such information would be revealed to someone who would so easily let it out to the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randoman Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 I don't think the second 'tip' is anything to consider. They're basically just suggesting the most popular Western picks (Pauletna, Shulk and Chrom) and then adding in a really wacky one (Chorus Men) to make it seem legit. Similarly, why would someone who has access to Nintendo's insides simply state 'Pokemon' from XY instead of which Pokemon it actually is. It's not like there are many XY Pokemon that had the chance of being playable either. Seeing how the person behind the second leak is also the same one behind the first leak (and this guy leaked Wii Fit Trainer before the E3 presentation occurred), I'd say it holds some weight solely because of that. Besides, his first leak said "Animal Crossing Guy" instead of Villager so it's not like his unspecific Pokemon X/Y leak is too weird or inconsistant with his other leak. I'm not saying I believe him 100%, but given the source and his accurate past history, I'm at least keeping an eye out on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) Posting this here just because: General consensus is fake for a number of reasons: -Wario's art is modified from this: -Ganondorf's art is apparently lifted from Twilight Princess in a similar manner, and Chrom's art is a colored/shaded version of his concept art. -only 39 characters has a lot of people suspicious. -edit: Also, apparently in Japan the ICs are referred to singularly(i.e. as "Ice Climber") Edited April 22, 2014 by shinpichu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Easily fake, Chrom is the only unannounced newcomer there. No way is there only one left. And yes, looking up screenshots of the Japanese Brawl/Melee will show "Ice Climber." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Yeah, definitely fake from what you guys have pointed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWill Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Umm, it's obviously fake because Toadette and Nester aren't on it and the latter has already been confirmed and the former has 100% chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Looks legit to me, honestly I wouldn't be surprised if this were the final roster. But my mind is open to it not being legit of course but it looks reasonable and among the lines we've been hearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Considering that: a) that roster is the same size as Brawl's at 39 characters b) 7 characters from Brawl are cut c) reused art for Wario and Ganondorf I don't buy it. Edited April 24, 2014 by Harmonie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakunda Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 If you look closely you can see that Wario's portrait is cutting into Donkey Kong's. I find it really hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I also doubt Sakurai would cut seven Brawl newcomers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSilver Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 No Lucas? I don't belive that pic in the slightest, it looks real but having just one rep for the mother series seems unfair to me, also i don't think chrom is the only newcomer in the game and i agree ^ There's way to much characters getting cut :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninian Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Poor Ikey-poo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSilver Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Well, i do think ike will come back, he shouldn't go anywhere, let's see what happens :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I don't recall anyone talking about "Ikey-poo." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSilver Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Ikey poo sounds....... weird and funny at the same time, but mostlty weird :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The name comes from the fact that Aimee actually used it in PoR. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I am the great Ikey-poo, and my "Great Aether" will cut at you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSilver Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) The name comes from the fact that Aimee actually used it in PoR. lol ohh i get it now, i haven't played PoR so i didn't knew x) heh Edited April 25, 2014 by SoulSilver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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