Life Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Xenophobic, sabre-rattler, vitriolic, unable to negotiate, debate, or compromise with, touting conspiracy theory as fact, and advocating a retreat in societal norms, all of which are objectively bad for modern society.So I apply to absolutely none of those discriptions.Great. We're agreed on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNLEASH IT Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Xenophobic, sabre-rattler, vitriolic, unable to negotiate, debate, or compromise with, touting conspiracy theory as fact, and advocating a retreat in societal norms, all of which are objectively bad for modern society. I don't support these so-called alt-right people, but I believe that when people talk like this, it prevents any sort of discussion from taking place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojinbo Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Regressive leftists like Bill Clinton and Obama who stabilize the country's finances after they get assraped by such pillars of right-wing politics as Reagan or the Bush clowns? I'd take those any day if I had to make a choice between them and whatever piece of shit candidate the GOP throws into the ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) While I have a lot to disagree with him about, aren't the alt-right the ones firmly in the trump train category as tuvarkz pointed out earlier? The establishment conservatives are the ones hesitant to support Trump (aside from the ones who have come around to endorsing him, of course). Hence why they are called cuckservatives by the alt-right. Edited September 17, 2016 by Tryhard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moblin Major General Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 So I apply to absolutely none of those discriptions. Great. We're agreed on the matter. If you think so, refer back to your comment on "treating trans people like subhumans." That's vitriolic, backwards, and uncompromising. And you unabashedly hold that to be truth, therefore you are alt-right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNLEASH IT Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 While I have a lot to disagree with him about, aren't the alt-right the ones firmly in the trump train category as tuvarkz pointed out earlier? The establishment conservatives are the ones hesitant to support Trump (aside from the ones who have come around to endorsing him, of course). Hence why they are called cuckservatives by the alt-right. I realize that cuck has become the new fag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) I realize that cuck has become the new fag.It may be, but that was what it was originally intended to be. People (right-wing inclined) just use cuck as a generic insult now. Edited September 17, 2016 by Tryhard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I realize that cuck has become the new fag. And I will treat it as such while moderating this topic (and maybe elsewhere, depending on how far it spreads). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNLEASH IT Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 And I will treat it as such while moderating this topic (and maybe elsewhere, depending on how far it spreads). You shouldn't need to worry about that here though, it's mostly kept on those so-called "redpill" sites along with the aforementioned alt-right areas on the internet. Unless you're using my post as an example, in which case, I apologize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 If you think so, refer back to your comment on "treating trans people like subhumans." That's vitriolic, backwards, and uncompromising. And you unabashedly hold that to be truth, therefore you are alt-right.Ugh, rehashing this one.Ok, I'll state this once. And only once. If you want to respond to it, I'm not answering. I don't agree with transgender. I don't think it is normal to attempt to subvert biology and even transgenders know that it's not normal (see Blair White on the Rubin Report). Also, I don't think the science is fully in on the matter. That's out the way? Great. Now I would never ban the medical procedures. They want to do it to themselves? Sure, go ahead. But I'll never agree to it being publicly funded. Nor do I want to be forced to think that transgenderism is normal on a biological level when the jury is still out on whether it's a mental problem or not. In short, I would never discriminate against them in a legal fashion (and probably not if I was running a business) but you are not allowed to police my thoughts. We good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuvarkz Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 While I have a lot to disagree with him about, aren't the alt-right the ones firmly in the trump train category as tuvarkz pointed out earlier? The establishment conservatives are the ones hesitant to support Trump (aside from the ones who have come around to endorsing him, of course). Hence why they are called cuckservatives by the alt-right. 'Cuckservative' didn't come from being hestitant on Trump support. The term comes from the fact that the perception that conservatives had basically ended up relegated to just trying to slow down the leftwards shift in politics, instead of actively pushing for a return to traditional values, as well as for playing by the PC handbook when it's a belief of the alt-right that no metaphorical inch of gain should ever be ceded to the left, PC wording included. The word was already in use when there was still a slim chance Trump could lose/get screwed by the system. If you think so, refer back to your comment on "treating trans people like subhumans." That's vitriolic, backwards, and uncompromising. And you unabashedly hold that to be truth, therefore you are alt-right. While the alt-right does not advocate for trans people and does largely consider them as mentally ill (or 'degenerate', which is a generic insult thrown around everywhere tbh), subhumanism has been never specifically brought in. And just being vitriolic, backwards, and uncompromising is too wide of a descriptor. By those three you might as well lump in ideological supporters of radical islam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 'Cuckservative' didn't come from being hestitant on Trump support. The term comes from the fact that the perception that conservatives had basically ended up relegated to just trying to slow down the leftwards shift in politics, instead of actively pushing for a return to traditional values, as well as for playing by the PC handbook when it's a belief of the alt-right that no metaphorical inch of gain should ever be ceded to the left, PC wording included. The word was already in use when there was still a slim chance Trump could lose/get screwed by the system.Fair enough. But it still has the same conclusion that the alt-right believe that conservatives have lost their original values and what they should be standing for and are defiantly against them, and the alt-right also happens to be far more enthusiastic about supporting Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojinbo Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 The term comes from the fact that the perception that conservatives had basically ended up relegated to just trying to slow down the leftwards shift in politics [...] In politics? Or in society? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) In politics? Or in society? Both but more society if I remember correctly.In other news, BIRTHERISM! The goal posts have literally moved from "Hillary never started it" to "well, Trump was louder". The topic that never fails to deliver results. If you want more, go look at John Nolte's Twitter. I'm sitting here laughing at it. @NolteNC is his handle. Edit: Bomb in New Jersey, explosion in Manhattan with a 2nd "IED" found (as per reports) and explosion in Virginia. All within a day. Yeah. I think that might just win Trump the election especially when CNN (which is Hitler) prefers to cover Obama cracking jokes about Trump. Edited September 18, 2016 by Right Wing Nut Job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euklyd Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) As stimulating as this whole discussion is, I think it's worth noting that unlike Obama, Donald Trump is actually a closet Muslim, and may or may not be in league with Daesh (but I don't want to start making wild accusations): [spoiler=fresh off the presses] Unlike being a supporter of Daesh, there's nothing wrong with a candidate being a Muslim (although hiding it is kinda questionable), so I'm ok with saying that it is factually true that Donald Trump is probably a secret Muslim. EDIT: On the discussion at hand, just because Trump is a Muslim doesn't mean he wasn't born in the United States. I think there's no reason to believe he's not a natural-born US citizen. Edited September 18, 2016 by Euklyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) trump ran for an entire month by investigating the birther conspiracy which caused obama to release his birth certificate. he still continued to insist it after the birth certificate. hillary at least shut the fuck up after she lost the nomination lol (and at least hillary hasn't demanded a safe space for herself like trump & family has recently) i think once the debates happen trump will squarely lose because you can't just coast on ad hominem attacks and talking about policies he hasn't put any thought towards Edited September 18, 2016 by Lord Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alertcircuit Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Hillary was on the birther thing for a short time because Obama was her opponent. Trump did it for who knows why? The people who say it was out of racism can't exactly be proven wrong, especially when he says shit like "Obama was so bad, there will never be another black President again." I don't know if Trump will get destroyed as much as people think. Unless Hillary stops dodging easy questions, and she and the moderators fact check, I don't see Trump messing up that badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 trump ran for an entire month by investigating the birther conspiracy which caused obama to release his birth certificate. he still continued to insist it after the birth certificate. hillary at least shut the fuck up after she lost the nomination lolSee, that's not the point.The whole thing is that the Hillary camp and media was SO adamant to show that that Trump came up with the Birther movement. Then when it was proved that it really came from Sidney Blumenthal, the goal posts got moved so that they could still claim that Hillary herself had nothing to do with it. Meanwhile, they don't realize that their original claim was that it wasn't even connected to the Clinton camp. That's what makes it funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 nah what makes it funny is that trump was stupid enough to base an entire campaign off of it once and hillary not only btfo'd but she also pointed out candidate inexperience as another factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 https://www.hillaryclinton.com/post/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/ Leaving this here. This election just took a right turn into hilarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time the Crestfallen Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) https://www.hillaryclinton.com/post/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/ Leaving this here. This election just took a right turn into hilarity. Already been posted bud. The Clinton campaign finally talking about the real issues. https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/ Edit: Added archive link in case they realize just how stupid they are and edit the article. http://archive.is/ETDNv Edited September 19, 2016 by The Blind Idiot God Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Already been posted bud.Oh, I missed that.It has already been proven that this was a hoax, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant head Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) And there are socialist practices almost everyone benefits from - free public education for under-18s, road maintenance, etc. uh guys, socialism isn't "stuff the government does or gives." it's an economic system where the means of production are democratically owned by society instead of privately owned by an elite. socialist movements seek to abolish capitalism. you can't have a "combination of socialism and capitalism." Edited September 19, 2016 by Radiant head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alertcircuit Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Which is why I called Bernie a pseudo-socialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Which is why I called Bernie a pseudo-socialist.You can't just make up words. Bernie Sanders is a socialist. End of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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