QOTD IV!! 884: Who should be next QOTD master and why, or should it die?

[Dandragon]

it wasn't

[Darros]

therefore it follows adele is video game music?

[solrocknroll]

all non-videogame music is radio music

all radio music is bad

adele is not radio music

okay not exactly but

*presents statement*

*Take that!*

only hello is able to be played on radio so technically that album doesn't count

[Specta]

because u can pet the dog

[Darros]

because u can pet the dog

many dogs*

[Parrhesia]

okay not exactly but

*presents statement*

*Take that!*

only hello is able to be played on radio so technically that album doesn't count

"hmmm how do I prove I'm not a nerd? Right! I'll make Ace Attorney references!!"

[Specta]

many dogs*

tru edit accepted

[Kinumi]

wait I don't remember this at all

it's because that much exposure to math is dangerous

[peener weener]

okay not exactly but

*presents statement*

*Take that!*

only hello is able to be played on radio so technically that album doesn't count

at least four other songs have charted on the billboard hot 100 (when we were young, send my love, water under the bridge, million years ago). adele is like the face of pop music

nice videogame comeback though nerd lmao

Edited January 6, 2016 by fuccboi

[solrocknroll]

i'm seeing gratuitous use of nerd

is this a high school locker room

[Freohr Datia]

i'm seeing gratuitous use of nerd

is this a high school locker room

no this is a video game forum which is full of nerds

[Darros]

no its the internet

comparable but not the same

....gdi free :(

Edited January 6, 2016 by Papyrus

[Dandragon]

we are all nerds

none can escape

[Darros]

speak for yourself nerd

[solrocknroll]

get rekd nerds

miles edgeworth is on the case

[Integrity]

i'm seeing gratuitous use of nerd

is this a high school locker room

"nerd" is shorthand for "awful poster" hth

[Specta]

speak for yourself nerd

[Parrhesia]

i'm seeing gratuitous use of nerd

is this a high school locker room

Nerd (adjective: nerdy) is a descriptive term, often used pejoratively, indicating that a person is overly intellectual, obsessive, or lacking social skills. They may spend inordinate amounts of time on unpopular, obscure, or non-mainstream activities, which are generally either highly technical or relating to topics of fiction or fantasy, to the exclusion of more mainstream activities.[1][2][3] Additionally, many nerds are described as being shy, quirky, and unattractive,[4] and may have difficulty participating in, or even following, sports. Though originally derogatory, "Nerd" is a stereotypical term, but as with other pejoratives, it has been reclaimed and redefined by some as a term of pride and group identity.

Contents [hide]

1 Etymology

2 Typical stereotype

2.1 "Nerdy" interests

2.2 Personality and physical appearance

2.3 Medical and mental disorders

3 Nerd pride

4 See also

5 References

6 Further reading

7 External links

Etymology[edit]

The first documented appearance of the word "nerd" is as the name of a creature in Dr. Seuss's book If I Ran the Zoo (1950), in which the narrator Gerald McGrew claims that he would collect "a Nerkle, a Nerd, and a Seersucker too" for his imaginary zoo.[3][5][6] The slang meaning of the term dates to the next year, 1951, when Newsweek magazine reported on its popular use as a synonym for "drip" or "square" in Detroit, Michigan.[7] By the early 1960s, usage of the term had spread throughout the United States, and even as far as Scotland.[8][9] At some point, the word took on connotations of bookishness and social ineptitude.[5]

An alternate spelling,[10] as nurd or gnurd, also began to appear in the mid-1960s or early 1970s.[11] Author Philip K. Dick claimed to have coined the nurd spelling in 1973, but its first recorded use appeared in a 1965 student publication at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.[12][13] Oral tradition there holds that the word is derived from "knurd" ("drunk" spelled backward), which was used to describe people who studied rather than partied. The term gnurd (spelled with the "g") was in use at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology by 1965.[14] The term nurd was also in use at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology as early as 1971 but was used in the context for the proper name of a fictional character in a satirical "news" article.[15]

The Online Etymology Dictionary speculates that the word is an alteration of the 1940s term nert (meaning "stupid or crazy person"), which is itself an alteration of "nut".[16]

The term was popularized in the 1970s by its heavy use in the sitcom Happy Days.[17]

Typical stereotype[edit]

Nerds can be described either by their hobbies and interests, or by abstract qualities such as personality, status, social skills, and physical appearance.

"Nerdy" interests[edit]

Some interests and activities that are likely to be described as nerdy[by whom?] are:

Intellectual, academic, or technical hobbies, activities, and pursuits, especially topics related to science, mathematics, engineering, linguistics, economics, literature, sociology, geography, mythology, history, and technology.[citation needed] (See below)

Hobbies, games, and activities that are described as obsessive and "immature", such as trading cards, comic books, fantasy and science fiction novels, television programs and films, role-playing games, tabletop games, video games and anime.[citation needed] (See below)

Interest in the fine arts, non-mainstream music such as classical, progressive rock, techno, or folk music, hobbies (i.e., collecting), or other "obscure" interests.[citation needed]

Heavy obsession with a topic that would otherwise be mainstream (such as a popular TV show or a sport).[citation needed]

American satirist "Weird Al" Yankovic's song "White and Nerdy" states many other stereotypical nerd interests, including the Segway, ten-pin bowling, A.V. Club, the Renaissance Fair, editing Wikipedia, and Dungeons and Dragons. [18]

An interest can also be nerdy because of its association with "nerdy" people. For example, the stereotype of a "Band nerd" comes from the opinion [19][20][21] that many high school band students are goofy or socially inept (except with other band students), things that would brand a person as a nerd. But, it has been applied to all students that are in band or orchestra,[citation needed] even the ones with little involvement (see School band#Stereotypes and popular culture).

Over time, an activity or subject can become less nerdy. This may be[according to whom?] because of availability, because of better applications for the general public, or because of a shifting image of the majority of people taking that interest. Examples of such activities include computers, video games, the internet, books, movies, and television.[22]

Personality and physical appearance[edit]

Stereotypical nerds are commonly seen as intelligent but socially and physically awkward.[23] They would typically be perceived as either lacking confidence or being indifferent or oblivious to the negative perceptions held of them by others, with the result that they become frequent objects of scorn, ridicule, bullying, and social isolation. However, many nerds may eventually find a group of similar people to associate with.[24]

Because of the nerd stereotype, many smart people are often thought of as nerdy. This belief can be harmful, as it can cause high-school students to "switch off their lights" out of fear of being branded as one of them,[25] and cause otherwise appealing people to be nerdy simply for their intellect. It was once thought that intellectuals were nerdy because they were envied. However, Paul Graham stated in his essay, "Why Nerds are Unpopular", that intellect is neutral, meaning that you are neither loved or despised for it. He also states that it is only the correlation that makes smart teens automatically seem nerdy, and that a nerd is someone that is not socially adept enough. Additionally, he says that the reason why many smart kids are unpopular is that they "don't have time for the activities required for popularity."[26]

Stereotypical "nerd" appearance, often lampooned in caricatures, includes very large glasses, braces, severe acne and pants worn high at the waist. In the media, many nerds are white males, portrayed as being physically unfit, either overweight or skinny due to lack of physical exercise .[27][28] It has been suggested by some, such as linguist Mary Bucholtz, that being a nerd may be a state of being "hyperwhite" and rejecting African-American culture and slang that "cool" white children use.[29] However, after the Revenge of the Nerds movie franchise (with multicultural nerds), and the introduction of the Steve Urkel character on the television series Family Matters, nerds have been seen in all races and colors as well as more recently being a frequent young Asian or Indian male stereotype in North America. Portrayal of "nerd girls", in films such as She's Out of Control, Welcome to the Dollhouse and She's All That depicts that smart but nerdy women might suffer later in life if they do not focus on improving their physical attractiveness.[30]

In the United States, a 2010 study published in the Journal of International and Intercultural Communication indicated that Asian Americans are perceived as most likely to be nerds, followed by White Americans, while non-White Hispanics and Black Americans were perceived as least likely to be nerds. These stereotypes stem from concepts of Orientalism and Primitivism, as discussed in Ron Eglash's essay Race, Sex, and Nerds: From Black Geeks to Asian American Hipsters.[31] Among Whites, Jews are perceived as the most nerdy and are stereotyped in similar ways to Asians.[32]

Medical and mental disorders[edit]

Nerdiness is often compared to one or more medical disorders.

Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder symptoms, such as showing extreme interest in rules.

Sensory processing disorder due to the low muscle tone and problems with communication.

Asperger syndrome, due to the tendency to engage in intense, specific, obscure, or intellectual interests and to experience difficulty in social situations.[33] Temple Grandin, who has Asperger syndrome, has been quoted as saying, "Nerd is another word for Asperger's.'[34]

Nerd pride[edit]

The rise of Silicon Valley and the American computer industry at large has allowed many "nerdy" people to accumulate large fortunes. Many stereotypically "nerdy" interests, such as superhero and science fiction works, are now popular culture hits.[35] Some measures of nerdiness are now allegedly considered desirable, as, to some, it suggests a person who is intelligent, respectful, interesting, and able to earn a large salary. Stereotypical nerd qualities are evolving, going from awkwardness and social ostracism to an allegedly more widespread acceptance and sometimes even celebration of their differences.[36]

In the 1984 film Revenge of the Nerds Robert Carradine worked to embody the nerd stereotype; in doing so, he helped create a definitive image of nerds.[37] Additionally, the storyline presaged, and may have helped inspire, the "nerd pride" that emerged in the 1990s.[citation needed] American Splendor regular Toby Radloff claims this was the movie that inspired him to become "The Genuine Nerd from Cleveland, Ohio."[38] In the American Splendor film, Toby's friend, American Splendor author Harvey Pekar, was less receptive to the movie, believing it to be hopelessly idealistic, explaining that Toby, an adult low income file clerk, had nothing in common with the middle class kids in the film who would eventually attain college degrees, success, and cease being perceived as nerds. Many, however, seem to share Radloff's view, as "nerd pride" has become more widespread in the years since. MIT professor Gerald Sussman, for example, seeks to instill pride in nerds:

My idea is to present an image to children that it is good to be intellectual, and not to care about the peer pressures to be anti-intellectual. I want every child to turn into a nerd - where that means someone who prefers studying and learning to competing for social dominance, which can unfortunately cause the downward spiral into social rejection.

— Gerald Sussman, quoted by Katie Hafner, The New York Times, 29 August 1993[39]

Bryan Caplan, a professor of economics at George Mason University, refers to himself as "an openly nerdy man"[40] and has written of a "Jock/Nerd Theory of History".[41] He believes that income redistribution is a tactic by Jocks to prevent Nerds from gaining power over them.[citation needed]

The popular computer-related news website Slashdot uses the tagline "News for nerds. Stuff that matters." The Charles J. Sykes quote "Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one" has been popularized on the Internet and incorrectly attributed to Bill Gates.[42] In Spain, Nerd Pride Day has been observed on May 25 since 2006,[43] the same day as Towel Day, another somewhat nerdy holiday.[44] The date was picked because it's the anniversary of the release of Star Wars: A New Hope.[45]

The Green brothers, John Green and Hank Green of the popular YouTube account vlogbrothers have commonly referred to themselves as nerds, and much of their online personas are that of nerdy appeal. In fact, the name their fans have adapted reflects the popularity of this nerdy subculture, "Nerdfighters" or "Nerdfighteria."[citation needed]

An episode from the animated series Freakazoid, titled "Nerdator", includes the use of nerds to power the mind of a Predator-like enemy. Towards the middle of the show, he gave this speech. :

...most nerds are shy ordinary-looking types with no interest in physical activity. But, what they lack in physical prowess they make up in brains. Tell me, who writes all the best selling books? Nerds. Who makes all the top grossing movies? Nerds. Who designs computer programs so complex that only they can use them? Nerds. And who is running for high public office? No one but nerds. ... Without nerds to lead the way, the governments of the world will stumble, they'll be forced to seek guidance from good-looking, but vapid airheads.[46]

The Danish reality TV show FC Zulu, known in the internationally franchised format as FC Nerds, established a format wherein a team of nerds, after two or three months of training, competes with a professional soccer team.[citation needed]

Some commentators consider that the word is devalued when applied to people who adopt a sub-cultural pattern of behaviour, rather than being reserved for people with a marked ability.[47]

[maybe]

10/10 shitpost

[Integrity]

The Danish reality TV show FC Zulu, known in the internationally franchised format as FC Nerds, established a format wherein a team of nerds, after two or three months of training, competes with a professional soccer team.[citation needed]

level with me here, you added this to the wiki didn't you

[maybe]

why does it use an episode of freakazoid to basically say "nerds are good guys"

this is a wikipedia article not an editorial jeez people

[solrocknroll]

yes that is a fascinating story but the real question is

why does it use an episode of freakazoid to basically say "nerds are good guys"

this is a wikipedia article not an editorial jeez people

[Tryhard]

there are good nerds and bad nerds

[maybe]

[solrocknroll]

okay but seriously why are people here so judgmental