Choosing the Best Class for Kaze (Poll 17)

[Jayvee94]

Kaze. A Hoshidan ninja. In stark contrast to his older twin brother, Saizou, he’s a composed and polite young man. He firmly believes in choosing his own master and is strongly loyal, even going as far to sacrifice his own life. The most popular amongst the army.
[spoiler=Marriage/Buddy Seals]
Spoiler (Marriage/Buddy Seals)

A Marriage/Buddy seal allows a unit to reclass into one of the select class trees of his spouse (S support) or buddy (A+ support). A unit may only achieve an S support with units of the opposite gender (exc. Kamui, Syalla, Zero), and may only achieve an A+ support with units of the same gender.

(The credit for the following information goes to Gayserbeam, as I copied the wording of his explanation. Check out the Class Changing and Inheritance Thread for more information.

• If the users Primary Class is different than their Spouses/Buddys Primary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Primary Class, even if the user has that class as a Secondary Class already.
• If the users Primary Class is the same as their Spouses/Buddys Primary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Secondary Class.
• If the user is married or buddied with a unit who has an unlearnable class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Secondary Class.
  • An unlearnable class is a class that may be unique to a character or their children. The following units have unlearnable classes: Nishiki (Fox Spirit), Flannel (Garou), Azura (Singer), Mozume (Villager).
• If the user is married or buddied with a unit who has an unlearnable class, and their Primary Class is the same as their Spouses/Buddys Secondary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Substitute Class.
  • A Substitute Class is simply a select class a character with an unlearnable class passes down under certain circumstances. The following units have Substitute Classes: Nishiki (Herb Merchant), Flannel (Outlaw), Azura (Rod Knight), Mozume (Herb Merchant).

If you're still confused, let me use Kaze as an example to try and clarify matters!

• Kaze/Rinkah: Kaze's Primary Class is Ninja, and Rinkah's is Oni Savage. Therefore, Kaze would Marriage Seal into Oni Savage.
  • Kaze/Hana: Kaze's Primary Class is Ninja, and Hana's is Samurai. Therefore, Kaze would Marriage Seal into Samurai. As Kaze's Secondary Class is Samurai, he would not receive a new class tree from Hana.
• Kaze/Kagerou: Kaze's Primary Class is Cavalier, and Kagerou's is Cavalier. Therefore, Kaze would Marriage Seal into Kagerou's Secondary Class-- Spellcaster.
• Kaze/Azura: As Azura's Primary Class is Singer, an unlearnable class, Kaze would Marriage Seal into her Secondary Class-- Pegasus Warrior.
• Kaze/Ninja!Avatar: Avatar's Primary Class is Nohr Princess, an unlearnable class. Kaze's Primary Class is Ninja, and Avatar's Secondary Class is Ninja. Therefore, Kaze would Marriage Seal into his Substitute Class-- Knight.

[spoiler=Possible Classes]

• Classes in red are ones Kaze can only achieve in either the Hoshido or the Invisible Kingdom campaign.
• Classes in black are ones Kaze can only achieve in either the Nohr or the Invisible Kingdom campaign.
• Classes in blue are ones Kaze can achieve in the all campaigns.

Base Classes (8H, 7N, 15T)

• Bowman
• Cavalier
• Dark Mage
• Fighter
• Knight
• Lance Fighter
• Mercenary
• Ninja
• Oni Savage
• Pegasus Warrior
• Priest
• Rod Knight
• Samurai
• Spellcaster
• Wyvern Rider

Promoted Classes (14H, 9N, 25T)

• Basara
• Berserker
• Blacksmith
• Bow Knight
• Brave Hero
• Butler
• Dark Knight
• Exorcist
• Falcon Warrior
• General
• Golden-Kite Warrior
• Great Knight
• Holy Bowman
• Holy Lancer
• Jonin
• Mountain Priest
• Paladin
• Puppeteer
• Revenant Knight
• Shura
• Sorcerer
• Strategist
• Trueblade
• Weapon Master
• Wyvern Lord

[spoiler=Expansion of Possible Classes]
Primary Base Class: Ninja
Primary Promoted Classes: Jonin, Puppeteer
Secondary Base Class: Samurai
Secondary Promoted Classes: Trueblade, Weapon Master

Marriage Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the spouses. we listed the Hoshido characters first, the Nohr characters second, and the shared characters last.

• Hana: n/a
• Hinoka: Pegasus Warrior -> Falcon Warrior, Golden-Kite Warrior
• Kagerou: Spellcaster -> Basara, Exorcist
• Oboro: Lance Fighter -> Basara, Holy Lancer
• Orochi: Spellcaster -> Basara, Exorcist
• Rinka: Oni Savage -> Blacksmith, Shura
• Sakura: Priest -> Exorcist, Mountain Priest
• Setsuna: Bowman -> Golden-Kite Warrior, Holy Bowman

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• Belka: Wyvern Rider -> Revenant Knight, Wyvern Lord
• Camilla: Wyvern Rider -> Revenant Knight, Wyvern Lord
• Charlotte: Fighter -> Berserker, Brave Hero
• Effie: Knight -> General, Great Knight
• Elise: Rod Knight -> Butler, Strategist
• Luna: Mercenary -> Bow Knight, Brave Hero
• Nyx: Dark Mage -> Dark Knight, Sorcerer
• Pieri: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin

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• Azura: Pegasus Warrior -> Falcon Warrior, Golden-Kite Warrior
• Felicia: Rod Knight -> Butler, Strategist
• Mozume: Bowman -> Golden-Kite Warrior, Holy Bowman

Buddy Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the buddies. we listed the Hoshido characters first, the Nohr characters second, and the shared characters last.

• Saizou: n/a
• Xander: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin
• Silas: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin

[spoiler=Notice]

• In the previous optional poll, Lazward placed 2nd and Setsuna and Effie tied at 3rd (technically 3.5th). Therefore, Lazward would get 3 votes and Setsuna and Effie will get 1 vote each.
• Ryoma only received one vote while Flannel received none. So Ryoma and Flannel will be out for 2 polls (returns poll 19).
• Jakob and Subaki has been added back to the poll. if it is demonstrated again is that the forum is not interested in them: Subaki will be out for 4 polls (poll 22); Jakob will be out for 8 polls (poll 26).
• Belka has been added to the poll
• Note: If you plan to go through multiple classes, vote for the Final/Endgame class (except for preference, vote for whatcha like).
• Due to the limit of questions allowed to be posted. DLC poll will be temporarily out.

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[spoiler=Possible Skills]
Personal Skill: Miraculous Save: When user is the support unit, the lead unit has a Luck% chance of surviving a fatal attack with 1 HP
Skills are organized alphabetically based on the classes. Within the classes, skills are listed in the order of achievement (e.g. a GK earns Luna at Lvl. 5 and Diamond Strike at Lvl. 15, so Luna is listed before Diamond Strike).

Base class skills are listed before promoted class skills. Descriptions of skills Sakura can acquire through her primary and secondary class trees are listed below.

Descriptions of all the skills are located on the skills pages.

Base Classes Skills

• Bowman: Skill +2, Prescient Victory
• Cavalier: Open Assault, Rescue
• Dark Mage: Bind, Devilish Wind
• Fighter: HP +5, Roundhouse
• Knight: Defense +2, Confined Defense
• Lance Fighter: Defence Seal, Substitute
• Mercenary: Stubbornness, Patient Assurance
• Ninja: Locktouch, Snake Venom
• Oni Savage: Resistance Seal, Shove
• Pegasus Warrior: Swallow Strike, Eastern Heart
• Priest: Miracle, Rally Luck
• Rod Knight: Resistance +2, Distinguished Son
• Samurai: Flowing Strike Vantage
• Spellcaster: Magic +2, Fortune
• Wyvern Rider: Strength +2, Cut Through

Promoted Classes Skills

• Basara: Breaking Sky, Flamboyant
• Berserker: Rally Strength, Axefaire
• Blacksmith: Smithy Skill, Lancebreaker
• Bow Knight: Rally Skill, Kunaibreaker
• Brave Hero: Sol, Axebreaker
• Butler: Servant's Joy, Tomebreaker
• Dark Knight: Magic Seal, Lifetaker
• Exorcist: Rally Magic, Tomefaire
• Falcon Warrior: Rally Speed, Mirror Strike
• General: Defensive Formation, Pavise
• Golden-Kite Warrior: Soar, Sun God
• Great Knight: Luna, Diamond Strike
• Holy Bowman: Raven Strike, Bowfaire
• Holy Lancer: Speed Seal, Lancefaire
• Jonin: Lethality, Kunaifaire
• Mountain Priest: Renewal, Magic Counter
• Paladin: Defender, Aegis
• Puppeteer: Puppet Break, Copycat Puppet
• Revenant Knight: Deadly Breath, Overbearing
• Shura: Ogre Strike, Counter
• Sorcerer: Vengeance, Bowbreaker
• Strategist: Rally Resistance, Battle Command
• Trueblade: Astra, Swordfaire
• Weapon Master: Strength Seal, Line of Death
• Wyvern Lord: Rally Defence, Swordbreaker

Locktouch: User can open doors and chests without requiring keys
Snake Venom: When user triggers the battle, the enemy’s HP is reduced by 20% after the battle
Lethality: Skill x 0.25% chance of instantly defeating the enemy when dealing 1 or more damage

Kunaifaire: When user is equipped with a Kunai, damage +5 during battle
Puppet Break: Attacks are effective against Puppeteers, Puppets and Golems
Copycat Puppet: Select the Copycat command once per map to create a puppet with the same appearance, stats, inventory and HP as the user
(Anything that happens to the puppet happens to the user and vice versa even death)

Flowing Strike: When user triggers the battle, Avoid +30
Vantage: At the start of battle, when the user has under half HP, they attack first
Astra: Skill x 0.5% chance of triggering 5 consecutive hits with half damage
Swordfaire: When user is equipped with a Sword, damage +5 during battle
Strength Seal: After battle, enemy’s Strength -6
Line of Death: During battles, damage +10, damage received +10

For more info about stats and growths, please go to http://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-fates/

[spoiler=Summary]

Optimal

1. Jonin [80.65%]

2. Trueblade [9.68%]

3. n/a

Practical (Hoshido)

1. Jonin [87.10%]

2. Puppeteer [6.45%]

3. Trueblade [3.23%]

Practical (Nohr)

1. Jonin [87.10%]

2.5 Puppeteer [6.45%]

2.5 Trueblade [6.45%]

Preferred

1. Jonin [80.65%]

2. Trueblade [6.45%]

3. n/a

Optional Poll

1. Lazward [12.90%](4+3 votes)

2. Nishiki [19.35%](6 votes)

3. Rinkah [12.90%](4 votes)

Next poll, we will be dancing with Lazward.

Edited November 12, 2015 by Jayvee94

[CaitlynMellark]

In your marriage/buddy seal thing, you said if Kaze & Takumi married (you said if Kaze marriage sealed)

I laughed

[Jayvee94]

In your marriage/buddy seal thing, you said if Kaze & Takumi married (you said if Kaze marriage sealed)

I laughed

Oops. XD

[Ryo]

You forgot the DLC poll.

[Jayvee94]

You forgot the DLC poll.

Please read my notice

[Ryo]

Please read my notice

Then you should add the DLC options to the other polls, unless there's a limit on the number of options as well.

[Jayvee94]

Then you should add the DLC options to the other polls, unless there's a limit on the number of options as well.

Yeah, it sucks that we can only have up to five questions. Riku stated that in her/his polls when the forum requested for Blarth. You can help me though. I won't be able to post anything within 36 hours. Just click the classes tag on the top and find your reference.

[Ryo]

Back to the topic, I'm using him as a Dread Fighter and will switch back to Jonin after Lv. 35. Though he doesn't need DLC classes to be honest since his strength can easily be patched with either Attack Stance or +Str pair-ups, which are plenty in Nohr.

Puppet Master is also a practical choice because of high movement and workable strength.

I heard that he performs pretty well in the Samurai line as well, however I don't have any intention in trying that, since I have many sword users already.

Edited November 7, 2015 by Ryo

[Ownagepuffs]

Elite Ninja all the way.

[Luninareph]

Kaze has pretty decent natural STR base and growth, but Ninja tanks it and keeps his LUC pretty atrocious. Switching over to Samurai fixes these problems, but then he has to grind up Sword rank and loses Hidden Weapons. Puppeteer is kind of a compromise (and he'll get bows, which is kind of cool because even a Bronze Bow is going to mess fliers up, plus Copycat Puppet,) but then he has to suffer Ninja's bad STR AND grind up a second weapon.

It's kind of a matter of what you want Kaze to do most. Nohr, the answer is probably "be the Ninja, debuff all the things," but Hoshido, you might decide you want an early Trueblade who can actually have decent HP (hi Hana) and SPD (hi Hinata) at the same time, considering how many Ninjas Hoshido throws at you.

[Ryo]

Well, I think he's the only person in the army aside from Arthur who needs Goddess Icons anyway (even -LCK Kamui isn't that bad), so you safely can dump those on him (each giving +4 instead of +2 is also a huge help).

It's kind of a matter of what you want Kaze to do most. Nohr, the answer is probably "be the Ninja, debuff all the things," but Hoshido, you might decide you want an early Trueblade who can actually have decent HP (hi Hana) and SPD (hi Hinata) at the same time, considering how many Ninjas Hoshido throws at you.

I don't recall Hoshido having many ninjas, aside from chapter 10 and paralogues. Nohr, why can't you be like this?

[Luninareph]

Oh, no, sorry, I meant for your army. Kaze, Saizou, Grey, Kagerou....

[PuffPuff]

Best Class (Hoshido): Elite Ninja

Best Class (Nohr): Trueblade

Trueblade is probably his best option needed for the +30 avoid skill that he needs for his natural bad defense!

[Ownagepuffs]

Making Kaze a Samurai at any point is a terrible decision because E Swords and losing debuffs isn't cool. Since he has 1-2 range, he really doesn't need Flowing Strike on player phase. It's pretty easy to keep his offense competent via forges, pair up, and kitchen (I've had him ORKO Lancers in N20, for instance). Effective weaponry also goes a long way with him, then once he gets his faire he's set for life.

Things get much harder for him in IK, though.

[Jayvee94]

Current Majority Votes

Optimal: Jonin, Trueblade

Practical (Hoshido): Jonin, Puppeteer

Practical (Nohr): Jonin, Trueblade

Preferred: Jonin, Trueblade

Optional Poll: Nishiki, Lazward, Rinkah, Professional Killer ....... I was attacked in my sleep

[CaitlynMellark]

Nishiki :3