Filbertian Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I was wondering what happens if those bandits manage to get extremely lucky and kill him, what would happen then? It was clearly not intended but maybe something happens, I don't know and that's why im asking. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I don't know if thats even physically possible without hacking his stats to be lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Is this before or after he gives the Silver Sword to Sigurd? I think that since Alvis doesn't really do a lot during the Prologue, it might not be that game-breaking. But who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlegnomes Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 My guess is he'd probably retreat or die but the game would act like it never happened because nothing was coded to account for that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkama Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 It's impossible for him to die by RNG even if every enemy on the map attacked him but I suppose you could do it if you hacked his HP to 1 since there are some enemies on the map that would do 1 damage to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliKad Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 The minimal damage a unit can do is 1, no matter how high the opponent's defenses are. So it MIGHT be possible if you hack Alvis's HP to one. Otherwise, good fucking luck. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantairu Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 The minimal damage a unit can do is 1, no matter how high the opponent's defenses are. So it MIGHT be possible if you hack Alvis's HP to one. Otherwise, good fucking luck. :P A unit can do 0 damage. I think it's probably impossible to kill Alvis without hacking. Here's a question. In Chapter five, what happens if Velthomer gets captured and you seize it? The event is triggered by conversation not seizing the castle. So would it break the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliKad Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 A unit can do 0 damage. I think it's probably impossible to kill Alvis without hacking. Here's a question. In Chapter five, what happens if Velthomer gets captured and you seize it? The event is triggered by conversation not seizing the castle. So would it break the game? It can in Thracia, yes. But I know you do at least one damage in FE4, because if you leave a Level 1 Dew in Chapter 1 with the bandits, he'll still do minimal damage to the Captain, even with his pitiful attack stat of 9. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 If you seize Velthomer the chapter ends. FE4 speedruns do it by using the Rescue glitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojinbo Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 It's impossible without hacking the game. Alvis only shows up after you seize Jungby castle and there aren't enough enemy units left on the map to kill him by that time - even if they could theoretically deal damage to him. Note that enemy units in FE4 generally don't attack units when they have too low a hitrate or the calculated damage they can deal is too low, yet sometimes you'll see enemy brigands go after Alvis even when one of your units is in range. But even if there were 20 enemy units left on the map and they all somehow managed to hit him they'd fail to do the damage required to kill him by a long shot and Alvis oneshots every single one of them so there's no second chance. I don't know if Alvis dying would cause the game to crash or pretend like nothing happened though. Since it's not actually possible to get him killed it's safe to assume that nothing was coded to account for such a scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetragrammaton Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Don't forget he equips a Recover Ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I'm fairly sure Alvis would just vanish from the map and nothing would change. NPC Alvis has a lot in common with NPC Vylon (walk towards Sigurd and try to talk to him) amd Vylon doesn't trigger any kind of event if he dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 My guess is Sigurd would miss out on the silver sword if he didn't get it already, but otherwise nothing changes. The only thing that's tied to prologue alvis is the silver sword event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantairu Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 It can in Thracia, yes. But I know you do at least one damage in FE4, because if you leave a Level 1 Dew in Chapter 1 with the bandits, he'll still do minimal damage to the Captain, even with his pitiful attack stat of 9. ;)I know for certain that you can do 0 damage as I have done 0 damage to enemies before. Not talking about great shield. Try using Dew to attack any enemy with higher defense than his attack. For instance the general in the beginning of Chapter 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliKad Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I know for certain that you can do 0 damage as I have done 0 damage to enemies before. Not talking about great shield. Try using Dew to attack any enemy with higher defense than his attack. For instance the general in the beginning of Chapter 2. Really? Then how did it happen? Because I'm 100% convinced that it isn't possible, with this shitty video of mine as a proof! ^^ Speaking of, does anyone here know how to record sounds from the emulator using the QuickTime recorder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I know for certain that you can do 0 damage as I have done 0 damage to enemies before. Not talking about great shield. Try using Dew to attack any enemy with higher defense than his attack. For instance the general in the beginning of Chapter 2. In FE4 an unit always does at least one damage, even if the attack power is equal or less than the defense of the opponent... unless you have a glitched rom or sth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetragrammaton Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Really? Then how did it happen? Because I'm 100% convinced that it isn't possible, with this shitty video of mine as a proof! ^^ Speaking of, does anyone here know how to record sounds from the emulator using the QuickTime recorder? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGq2f5LDRqA&feature=youtu.be I use snes9x record function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliKad Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I use snes9x record function. But i' on a Mac, which makes this impossible. I have to use OpenEmu for this, which is great for emulation itself, but not for video capturing :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantairu Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 In FE4 an unit always does at least one damage, even if the attack power is equal or less than the defense of the opponent... unless you have a glitched rom or sth. That's really weird. I guess I could be remembering wrong. Idk though, maybe I do have a glitched rom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 A unit can do 0 damage. I think it's probably impossible to kill Alvis without hacking. Here's a question. In Chapter five, what happens if Velthomer gets captured and you seize it? The event is triggered by conversation not seizing the castle. So would it break the game? The enemy never tries to size Velthomer. They simply never attack Aida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetragrammaton Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) That's really weird. I guess I could be remembering wrong. Idk though, maybe I do have a glitched rom. Minimum damage in Vanilla FE4 is 1. In some Japanese hack, minimum damage is changed to 0. Edited November 19, 2016 by hanhnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojinbo Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Minimum damage is 1. The only thing that can make 0 damage happen is great shield to my knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Minimum damage in Vanilla FE4 is 0. In some Japanese hack, minimum damage is changed to 1. Minimum damage is 1, I have a feeling you've mixed the two up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantairu Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Huh, yeah that's weird. I'm probably just remembering wrong. Either that or the ROM I use now is jacked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsuki Angel XV Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 A unit can do 0 damage. I think it's probably impossible to kill Alvis without hacking. Here's a question. In Chapter five, what happens if Velthomer gets captured and you seize it? The event is triggered by conversation not seizing the castle. So would it break the game? It wouldn't make the game freeze,but it will just go on without the Aida conversation it would just end the chapter there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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