Etrurian emperor Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) So there's this stream going and we seen at least two characters. We saw neither as playable but both Owain and Niles showed up in cutscenes so they are in the game in at least some capacity. https://m.twitch.tv/videos/177573416 2:28:20 and 3:33:00. I'm pretty happy with Niles. His design and personality make him stand out nicely. He's also another archer which is nice. I'm less pleased with Owain. His gimmick grew stale and boring when used a second time and I'm unsure why a third time should fix this. He's in his Awakening gear so he's more likely a swordfighter then a mage. I think I also spotted Donnel but as a gameplay mechanic rather then a character. Once one of the twins did a mission he appeared to spawn an item. But it could just be a regular village, he seems a tad taller then Donnel. Edited September 26, 2017 by Etrurian emperor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Good to see Owain. Less so Niles. Wow, I don't like that creep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmurr Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Shut the front door. Fully voiced Owain is going to be the greatest thing ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Probably tag the thread as spoilers. Personally was hoping for Niles, but due to their recent Azura comments this is not going to go over well. But Owain... ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) i don't like either of these characters but damn do I wish they showed them earlier the characters they were showing before were such boring, predictable choices that I didn't care at all who they were announcing, especially since the moment you see at least two of the fates siblings, you know all 9 or 10 or however many are gonna show up it's cool that there actually are some less expected characters, but I wish we knew that earlier instead of it just being "chapter 1 of awakening + cordelia" and "the fates characters who are on the box but not azura yet" looking forward to whoever else we might see who hasn't shown up yet, although I guess that might just be navarre and whoever the knight character is at this point Edited September 26, 2017 by unique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanima Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) Like these characters and they make me hope that Team Takumi will be present too... please.. Edited September 26, 2017 by Nanima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Nanima said: Like these characters and they make me hope that Team Takumi will be present too... please.. Keep in mind, it's Owain-- not Odin. We still have generic infantry lance officers, so Oboro may actually be in... but with a myrm, I think Hinata's chances are pretty much zilch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodriguezjr Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I'm glad to see Owain in and I guess Niles. If they're not secret unlockable characters, then most likely they'll be DLC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanima Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, The DanMan said: Keep in mind, it's Owain-- not Odin. We still have generic infantry lance officers, so Oboro may actually be in... but with a myrm, I think Hinata's chances are pretty much zilch. We are still not sure if Odin/Owain (don't care either way) and Niles are more than NPCs. If they aren't, there is no reason not to have Team Takumi present in there as well. Btw I don't need a personal raincloud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Nanima said: We are still not sure if Odin/Owain (don't care either way) and Niles are more than NPCs. If they aren't, there is no reason not to have Team Takumi present in there as well. Btw I don't need a personal raincloud. They openly teased a playable thief at TGS (which everyone thought was Trickster Anna), even. It's unlikely this is a Validar deal. Owain's probably a Ryoma clone. Edited September 26, 2017 by The DanMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Arthur97 said: Good to see Owain. Less so Niles. Wow, I don't like that creep. Agreed, am actually surprisingly really happy to see Owain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crubat Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Wait, doesn't this kinda confirm there are more characters in the game? Apart from Anna of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Wait... they weren't unlocked in any of the footage shown, despite joining up with the party. Seems like they may be NPCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanima Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, The DanMan said: Hide contents They openly teased a playable thief at TGS (which everyone thought was Trickster Anna), even. It's unlikely this is a Validar deal. Owain's probably a Ryoma clone. I don't appreciate you appearing to sling discouragement at me every time I express hope or gratitude for Hoshidan inclusion. I am well aware of the potential odds, I don't need "reminders" (which are starting to come across as schadenfreude) , and I reserve the right to be hopeful regardless. Just let me hope/be happy, man. Edited September 26, 2017 by Nanima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Nanima said: I don't appreciate you appearing to sling discouragement at me every time I express hope or gratitude for Hoshidan inclusion. I am well aware of the potential odds, I don't need "reminders" (which are starting to come across as schadenfreude) , and I reserve the right to be hopeful regardless. Just let me hope/be happy, man. Not intending to come off that way; I'm simply pointing out what we know. Though my most recent post did point out how they do seem like they could just be NPCs-- meaning all this noise may be for nothing. Edited September 26, 2017 by The DanMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaris998 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, The DanMan said: Not intending to come off that way; I'm simply pointing out what we know. Though my most recent post did point out how they do seem like they could just be NPCs-- meaning all this noise may be for nothing. Not necessarily, Hyrule Warriors did have several characters that joined you in the main story but weren't playable in it- namely Agitha and Ruto- until you played Adventure Mode, so if they're not unlocked in the main story they could be unlocked in History Mode. There are several possibilities Edited September 26, 2017 by Solaris998 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Mage Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 It's very likely that they are NPC bosses. In fact, probably all of Fates' retainers will appear as NPC bosses, probably on maps where a Royal Sibling is a boss. I wouldn't be suprised if Cain and Abel appear as NPCs in a map where Marth is the main boss, Ogma for Caeda, Maribelle for Lissa(she's not Lissa's retainer, but it would be fitting), Bantu for Tiki, Mae and Boey for Celica, Kent and Sain for Lyn and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Solaris998 said: Not necessarily, Hyrule Warriors did have several characters that joined you in the main story but weren't playable in it- namely Agitha and Ruto- until you player Adventure Mode, so if they're not unlocked in the main story they could be unlocked in History Mode. There are several possibilities Hence my not speaking in absolutes; "they could", "may be". The fact they openly teased a playable thief at TGS and now this does make me lean more towards that idea, on further thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanima Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 14 minutes ago, The DanMan said: Not intending to come off that way; I'm simply pointing out what we know. I just personally think it's better to get disappointment out of the way as soon as possible rather than hold on to hope when it doesn't seem likely. Though my most recent post did point out how they do seem like they could just be NPCs-- meaning all this noise may be for nothing. Sorry for snapping a bit there. It's just that I am of a more optimistic mindset and think it preferable to hope than be resigned from the beginning. We did get all the Hoshidan royals, so that already payed off for me. The risk of disappointment is mine to take. If it's any reassurance, in the event of Nohr-only retainer represantation I don't plan on threatening to nuke Japan. Haha;;; Anyway, I welcome the appearance of these two and think making them NPCs is a great way of getting all the retainers into the game. If they are playable, I am fully expecting Oboro and will look forward to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Nanima said: Sorry for snapping a bit there. It's just that I am of a more optimistic mindset and think it preferable to hope than be resigned from the beginning. We did get all the Hoshidan royals, so that already payed off for me. The risk of disappointment is mine to take. If it's any reassurance, in the event of Nohr-only retainer represantation I don't plan on threatening to nuke Japan. Haha;;; Anyway, I welcome the appearance of these two and think making them NPCs is a great way of getting all the retainers into the game. If they are playable, I am fully expecting Oboro and will look forward to that. As I pointed out, I think this raises Oboro's chances-- they already included the most popular Nohr retainer, and since they're set on equal representation why not the most popular Hoshidan one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahvi Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Well, if they are npc's, making them playable as dlc should be easy (at least I'd think so, I don't know really anything about game development). So they'll probably be in the Fates and Awakening dlc packs, if they are not playable in the base game. Also, Owain looked great in that cutscene. It seems that the art style fits his more comedic antics quite well. Niles's portrait looked a bit weird but I'm just happy he's in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 So, does anybody know why Frederick's on the enemy side? Is he attacking the twins because he sees them as a threat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboKD001 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 interesting that it's owain and not odin. also i see ppl are getting early copies already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Owain has a unique default stance while Darius has Marth's. I think that tells you who may be playable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, The DanMan said: Owain has a unique default stance while Darius has Marth's. I think that tells you who may be playable. Clearly Darius given their track record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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