Jedi Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Do you feel we're going to get more 3rd parties, maybe a lot of 1st? Maybe a mixture? I'm personally feeling like it'll be pretty much more 3rd parties just to make this party even more insane than it is now, and gut feeling, bout it. What about the rest of you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelaar Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 While I would like 1st parties, I think they would prioritize 3rd parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Branniglenn Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) I can imagine a scenario where Sakurai is like "man, it's a shame I didn't have the time to put that guy in" and that guy happens to be a nintendo character. Plus not having to make deals with other companies smooths the process while also upping the profit margins since I assume Nintendo has to pay for licensing rights. But after his speech about just polishing the record on the best crossover of all time, I think that's code for "we really love doing these third parties even if it tanks our bankroll". I don't anticipate any first parties. If we did get some it'd be like "Really, Sakurai? You extended your hellish contract to put mach rider in Smash? Was it worth it?" Edited September 6, 2019 by Glennstavos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSSKG151 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 On one hand I would like to see first party characters added in the new wave of DLC characters. On the other hand, there aren't really any big name Nintendo owned characters for them to add at this point unless they start pulling from recent entries like Three Houses, Pokemon Sword and Shield and I hate to say it Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Sakurai's comment of pulling more worlds together also makes it sound like it's mostly going to be more third party characters. Personally, I don't mind who gets added since nothing forces me to pay for them if I don't like who gets picked but I voted a mix of first and third party because can't see all the DLC characters being third party. At the very least I can see it being eighty percent third party and twenty percent first party for overall DLC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yexin Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) what sakurai said is quite ambiguous while he said probably no other smash game could reach the amount of characters ultimate has, and that he wants to work hard to make this record even higher, and this is a fact, it's also true that he actually never openly said whether he wants to do so by adding characters from 1st party series or 3rd party ones i'm honestly leaning towards 1st parties, simply because it would make things overall easier for everyone, but no one can really say for sure until sakurai says otherwise this said, i'd love it to be another 3rd party-focused fighter pass Edited September 6, 2019 by Yexin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodHoms Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I have a feeling Nintendo will want more first party characters as a means of cross promoting their other titles. It's just good business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddie Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I hope we get a couple first party characters at least as I really want a Three Houses character or more Xenoblade and Kid Icarus representation. Though having more 3rd party character will be good as it increases the chance of Sora in smash (the only 3rd party character I really want as Joker and Banjo were actually added). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregster101 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I'm hoping for first party characters, cuz I wasn't too big on the idea of the first Fighter Pass being entirely third party characters. I think Rex has a shot considering how much Sakurai regrets not being able to add him in the base game due to Xenoblade 2 being announced after Ultimate's project plan was finalized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightchao42 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 If Nintendo let Sakurai pick the characters this time then I can see him wanting to add first parties who were too late for the base game (Rex, a Three Houses character, a Gen VIII Pokémon, Astral Chain protagonist, etc.). If Nintendo picked the characters again then we'll just get more third parties. Sakurai's statement on worlds is apparently more accurately translated as "by adding just one character we can expand the world of Smash" so I don't think it means anything. Unless he means we're only getting one more character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perkilator Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I'm expecting at least one third party in the next set, but I'm definitely hoping for more first parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 More first party characters please. Especially since the current pack has all third parties. There are still plenty of first party Nintendo characters that deserve to be in imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottservia Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I want a more fair mixture but 3rd party is mostly where I’m leaning. I just need more monster hunter representation alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armagon Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 If things are to be perfectly balanced as all things should be, I can see them going the 1st Party route when it comes to DLC. But i just really want Rex. Or any Xenoblade rep tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) I would like a prioritization of third parties. I just feel like they have more to offer in terms of variety, stages, music, and audience expansion. Plus... we already have such an extensive first party line up. Perhaps one first party pass to represent Arms, No More Heroes, and various others. Edited September 6, 2019 by Etheus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregster101 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Etheus said: I would like a prioritization of third parties. I just feel like they have more to offer in terms of variety, stages, music, and audience expansion. Plus... we already have such an extensive first party line up. Perhaps one first party pass to represent Arms, No More Heroes, and various others. There's still several first party characters that are deserving to be playable at this point though. Dixie Kong, Bandana Dee, Rex, etc. Also, No More Heroes is third party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gregster101 said: There's still several first party characters that are deserving to be playable at this point though. Dixie Kong, Bandana Dee, Rex, etc. Also, No More Heroes is third party Right. No More Heroes isn't first party, but is a Nintendo exclusive franchise. It's basically fair to view Travis Touchdown as a Nintendo character. And just because a character is deserving (whatever that means) doesn't mean that they are optimal. The level of excitement and variety that say... Bandana Dee can bring is lower than that of a popular third party character. It would just be another Kirby stage and more Kirby tracks. If anything, I'd argue that they could use a Fighter Pass-lite to introduce first parties. Just characters, and maybe soundtracks. No need to make a new stage or spirits. Might save on dev time and get them out faster. Edited September 6, 2019 by Etheus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregster101 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Etheus said: Right. No More Heroes isn't first party, but is a Nintendo exclusive franchise. It's basically fair to view Travis Touchdown as a Nintendo character. And just because a character is deserving doesn't mean that they are optimal. The level of excitement and variety that say... Bandana Dee can bring is lower than that of a popular third party character. It would just be another Kirby stage and more Kirby tracks. If anything, I'd argue that they could use a Fighter Pass-lite to introduce first parties. Just characters, and maybe soundtracks. No need to make a new stage or spirits. Might save on dev time and get them out faster. The first No More Heroes game was ported to the PS3. And that doesn't mean there aren't people who legitimately want them though. Like, Bandana Dee really should be in Smash at this point goddammit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, Gregster101 said: The first No More Heroes game was ported to the PS3. And that doesn't mean there aren't people who legitimately want them though. Like, Bandana Dee really should be in Smash at this point goddammit Right. I'd never argue that someone doesn't legitimately want something. Trouble is, we're all competing for what we want. Everyone's gonna be disappointed at some point, and we just have to accept that and take what we get. These discussions can get heated for a reason. What I question is what "deserving" even means. What scale is there for determining if one character deserves it more than another? Was Terry Bogard undeserving just because most of the world incredulously asked "who?" on his reveal? I don't know. There are certainly some posters here who were delighted by that announcement. Seems deserving to me, and the problem is that such could be applied to pretty much every character ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregster101 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, Etheus said: Right. I'd never argue that someone doesn't legitimately want something. Trouble is, we're all competing for what we want. Everyone's gonna be disappointed at some point, and we just have to accept that and take what we get. These discussions can get heated for a reason. What I question is what "deserving" even means. What scale is there for determining if one character deserves it more than another? Was Terry Bogard undeserving just because most of the world incredulously asked "who?" on his reveal? I don't know. There are certainly some posters here who were delighted by that announcement. Seems deserving to me, and the problem is that such could be applied to pretty much every character ever. Well quit acting like characters such as Bandana Dee and Dixie don't deserve to be in Smash dammit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gregster101 said: Well quit acting like characters such as Bandana Dee and Dixie don't deserve to be in Smash dammit! Why are you mad at me? I don't decide who gets in. If Dixie gets in Smash, yeah, I'll be disappointed and just won't buy her. But I'm not petitioning Sakurai to not include her, and I'm not saying she doesn't deserve to get in, whatever that means. If he or Nintendo have a vision for Dixie in Smash, that is their prerogative, and a lot of people will be happy with that. I want more third parties because that's what I want, and that's what I think will be the most exciting. It's not about deserving or gatekeeping. Last I checked, it's usually other posters who take the time to call me out for who I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 It's hard to say. On one hand I feel like they might want to reign things in and go back to first parties. On the other hand I feel if that's all they're going to add they wouldn't even make more DLC. As popular as some first parties are within the fandom, and as much as even I want some of them, I have to admit no one is left that will be especially eye-catching for a wider audience so far into the game's life. 2 hours ago, Gregster101 said: Well quit acting like characters such as Bandana Dee and Dixie don't deserve to be in Smash dammit! Dixie is my most wanted and even I don't see how you're getting this from his posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flere210 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I just hope its not going to be someone that make me roll my eyes. Wich are mostly third party characters. I am in the liberating stage were some of my worst nightmares have been released, so as long as it's not Master Chef i don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Flere210 said: I just hope its not going to be someone that make me roll my eyes. Wich are mostly third party characters. I am in the liberating stage were some of my worst nightmares have been released, so as long as it's not Master Chef i don't care. I know that was a typo, but Master Chef would unironically be the best thing. Gordon Ramsey heats it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NegativeExponents- Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I voted for first party but I hope that I'm wrong and its it's actually a mixture. My big three third-party wants are Phoenix, Sora, and Zero (preferably the Megaman Zero incarnation) but I also really want Issac, Cackletta (or any representation for the mario RPGs really), and the 3H lords so yeah a mixture would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, NegativeExponents- said: I voted for first party but I hope that I'm wrong and its it's actually a mixture. My big three third-party wants are Phoenix, Sora, and Zero (preferably the Megaman Zero incarnation) but I also really want Issac, Cackletta (or any representation for the mario RPGs really), and the 3H lords so yeah a mixture would be great. MMZ Zero would be fucking awesome... But they gave us classic green tits Zero for the Mii costume, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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