FE13 Growths Project

[Lord Raven]

Well, compared to my previous test, I generally got higher HP this time. The growth for HP flaw looks more like 60% now. I guess that seems more "realistic" than 50% which would have been really terrible. I wonder if HP uses different numbers for its asset and flaw growth modifiers? Like -20% for flaw and +30% for asset?

Bear in mind - and not to trivialize your work or anything, it's great work and much appreciated to this admittedly extremely ambitious project - choosing certain stats as a flaw can also affect your HP growth. As for which ones, I think I can safely agree with what's been posted on the site (though the magnitude may vary). Just some food for thought. It may be why you're seeing a higher growth now.

[Gryz]

http://www.serenesforest.net/fe13/char_growth.html

But according to the site, HP is only modified by HP asset/flaw and not by any other stat. It's kind of the reason why I wanted to focus on HP. Well, assuming the guidebook was at least accurate in what secondary stats are affected by an asset/flaw. Also, my initial HP flaw tests (which were only 133 level-ups) actually pointed more towards 55%; I was trying to reconcile the possible growth based on the assumption that the asset/flaw modifiers were equal. However, I am starting to suspect that HP uses different numbers for asset/flaw (and maybe Luck too, but I need to get more data)

[Lord Raven]

Some of my data actually really sucks dick on account of the fact that they had like 2 stat points left before maxing and then maxed it in three levels or something. You can ignore that if you wish. This is also normal mode btw.

Chrom
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 37  17   2  19  19  15  16   5 Lord
1 42  21   2  21  21  15  19   8 Great Lord
20 56  31   3  32  34  26  28   9 Great Lord
1 49  26   3  30* 26* 26  23   6 Archer
20 60* 27*  6  30* 26* 31* 24*  9 Archer
Maxed Def at Level 2, Str at Level 5, Lck at Level 9, HP at Level 14
1 60* 27*  6  26* 26* 31* 25*  9 Cavalier
20 60* 27*  7  26* 26* 31* 25* 13 Cavalier

Avatar (Female +Mag -Skl)
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 30  19  20  10  15  13  12  11 Tactician
1 34  22  23  12  17  13  14  13 Grandmaster
16 47  26  32  20  24  23  16  18 Grandmaster
1 43  23* 27* 20  25  23  13  19 Pegasus Knight
20 60* 23* 27* 25* 29* 30* 21* 27*Pegasus Knight
Maxed Skl/Spd at Level 6, Lck at Level 12, Res at Level 17, HP/Def at Level 20

Frederick
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
1 21   9   2  12  10   6   8   2 Wyvern Rider
20 42  22   7  23  16  14  16   4 Wyvern Rider
1 41  23   7  21  13  14  19   4 Knight
20 60* 32*  7  28* 21* 21  32* 10 Knight
Maxed Skl at Level 16, HP/Str at Level 17, Spd at Level 18, Def at Level 19

Lissa
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 36   8  15  10  11  19   7  10 Cleric
1 36   8  15  10  12  19   7   9 Troubadour
Maxed Lck at Level 16
20 49  14  25  17  22  32* 12  19 Troubadour
1 49  18  24  22  25  32* 15  20 Pegasus Knight
20 60* 22* 25* 27* 27* 32* 21* 24 Pegasus Knight
Maxed Mag at Level 4, Spd at Level 8, Skl at Level 13, HP/Str at Level 14, Def at Level 15

Virion
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 33  16   6  26  17  10  11   6 Archer
1 36  18   6  24  16  10  14   6 Wyvern Rider
20 51  28* 12  26* 23  19  23  11 Wyvern Rider
Maxed Skl at Level 6, Str at Level 12
1 48  20* 16  23  22  19  17  14 Mage
20 60* 20* 23  29* 28* 29* 19* 22 Mage
Maxed Skl at Level 10, Def at Level 12, Spd at Level 13, HP at Level 18, Def at Level 20

Sully
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 34  17   3  16  15  16  16   8 Cavalier
1 32  15   4  20  19  16  13   9 Myrmidon
20 50  23*  5  29* 30* 26  20  16 Myrmidon
Maxed Skl at Level 11, Spd at Level 16, Str at Level 18
1 53  26   4  26* 25  26  24  15 Wyvern Rider
20 60* 27*  8  26* 26* 30* 27* 18 Wyvern Rider
Maxed Str/Spd at Level 2, Lck/Def at Level 6, HP at Level 11

Vaike
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 42  20   1  21  13  10  14   1 Fighter
1 44  20   1  19  16  10  13   1 Barbarian
20 60* 32   1  24* 26  19  22*  4 Barbarian
Maxed Skill at Level 9, HP Level 16, Def Level 18
1 54  25*  1  27  26  19  21*  4 Thief
Maxed Skill at Level 4, Speed at Level 5, HP at Level 8
20 60  25*  1  30* 29* 25  21*  6 Thief

Stahl
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 40  18   3  14  17  18  20   5 Cavalier
1 38  17   3  17  17  18  18   5 Archer
20 56  28*  8  29  25* 25  27*  9 Archer
Maxed Def at Level 13, Str/Spd at Level 16
1 56  26*  9  28* 28* 25  24* 10 Myrmidon
20 60* 26* 11  28* 28* 28* 24* 13 Myrmidon
Maxed Lck at Level 4, HP at Level 5

Miriel
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 35   3  16  13  19  16   7  13 Mage
1 37   4  15  12  18  16   9  14 Dark Mage
20 53   7  24  21  26* 22  18  24 Dark Mage
Maxed Spd at Level 11
1 51   6  24  21  27* 22  15  25 Troubadour
20 59   9  29* 25* 27* 30* 18* 28*Troubadour
Maxed Skl at Level 7, Mag/Def/Res at Level 9, Lck at Level 18

Sumia
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 34  15   7  28  22  17  12  13 Pegasus Knight
1 34  11   8  23  18  17   9  13 Cleric
20 48  17  16  26* 28* 28  15  27 Cleric
Maxed Skl at Level 7, Spd at Level 15
1 50  25  13  28* 26* 28  25  21 Knight
20 60* 28* 17  28* 26* 30* 28* 23*Knight
Maxed Lck at Level 3, Str at Level 5, Def/Res at Level 11, HP at Level 12

Kellam
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 36  18   3  15  12   8  22   7 Knight
1 34  10   6  13  14   8  12  13 Priest
20 49  17  12  24  23* 13  23  23 Priest
Maxed Spd at Level 15
1 49  20   9  28  26* 13  24* 17 Thief
20 60* 23* 14  30* 26* 21  24* 20*Thief
Maxed Skl at Level 6, Str/Res at Level 7, HP at Level 16

Lon'qu
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 32  15   7  22  25  20  13   5 Myrmidon
1 32  14   6  19  23  20  11   4 Thief
20 49  22* 13  32* 31* 29  15   9 Thief
Maxed Spd at Level 11, Str at Level 15, Skl at Level 16
1 52  26  13  27* 27* 29  21   9 Wyvern Rider
20 60* 28* 16  27* 27* 30* 26* 11 Wyvern Rider
Maxed Lck at Level 5, Str at Level 6, HP at Level 9, Def at Level 11

Donnel
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
30 45  21*  8  19* 19* 33* 21* 14 Villager (Aptitude)
Maxed Str at Level 22, Lck at Level 23, Skl at Level 24, Spd at Level 28, Def at Level 29
1 47  25   8  26  25* 33* 25  14 Mercenary (Aptitude)
12 59  27* 12  27* 25* 33* 26* 20 Mercenary (Aptitude)
Maxed Str/Def at Level 3, Skl at Level 2
1 60* 30* 12  24  23  33* 25  20 Fighter (Aptitude)
10 60* 30* 15  25* 24* 33* 26* 22*Fighter (Aptitude)
Maxed Skl/Spd/Def at Level 2, Res at Level 3

Maribelle
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 28   4  16  15  14  21   8  14 Troubadour
1 28   4  17  16  13  21   9  12 Mage
20 42   8  27  25  23  33* 12  20 Mage
Maxed Lck at Level 15
1 42  12  25* 29* 27* 33* 14  23 Pegasus Knight
20 53  17  25* 29* 27* 33* 18  27*Pegasus Knight
Maxed Res at Level 15

Ricken
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 36   5  17  15  14  22  15  11 Mage
1 38  11  13  17  16  22  20   8 Cavalier
20 57  18  19  22  25* 31* 25* 12 Cavalier
Maxed Lck at Level 13, Def at Level 16, Spd at Level 18, 
1 55  17  19  25  25* 31* 23  12 Archer
20 60* 25* 22* 29* 25* 31* 24* 15 Archer
Maxed Mag/Def at Level 4, Skl at Level 5, HP at Level 6, Str at Level 14

Panne
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
30 52  25   3  22  29  14  23   6 Taguel
1 50  24*  3  24  31* 14  22*  4 Thief
20 60* 24*  6  31* 31* 21  22* 11 Thief
Maxed Skl at Level 8, HP at Level 11
1 60* 30*  6  26* 27* 21  28  11 Wyvern Rider
20 60* 30*  7  26* 27* 26  29* 13 Wyvern Rider
Maxed Def at Level 3

Gaius
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 36  16   3  21  27  13   9   6 Thief
1 36  17   3  24  29  13  11   7 Myrmidon
20 53  25*  7  29* 30* 19  13   8 Myrmidon
Maxed Spd at Level 2, Skl at Level 7, Str at Level 13
1 57  29   6  25  25  19  13   7 Fighter
20 60* 30*  9  28* 27* 26  21   9 Fighter
Maxed Str at Level 2, HP at Level 4, Spd at Level 5, Skl at Level 6

Nowi
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
30 49  19  11  13  12  29  22  15 Manakete
1 51  24  11  18  16  29  28  13 Wyvern Rider
20 60* 29* 19  23* 22* 31* 31* 22*Wyvern Rider
Maxed HP at Level 8, Str at Level 10, Lck/Def at Level 4, Skl at Level 13, Spd at Level 15, Res at Level 18
1 57  21* 23  20  21  31* 24* 25 Mage
14 60* 21* 29* 26* 24* 31* 24* 27*Mage
Maxed HP/Res at Level 4, Spd at Level 8, Skl at Level 11, Mag at Level 14

Tharja
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 35   6  17   8  19   7  16   8 Dark Mage
1 35  13  14  10  18   7  23   4 Knight
Maxed Spd at Level 13, Mag at Level 17, Def at Level 18
20 53  24  23* 16  24  14  31* 12 Knight
1 51  21  23* 20  26* 14  25  12 Archer
20 60* 26* 23* 28* 26* 20  26* 17 Archer
Maxed Def at Level 3, Str at Level 10, HP at Level 13, Skl at Level 16

Anna
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 51  20  25  32  34  38  15  19 Trickster
1 48  21  20* 30* 25* 33* 17  14 Archer
20 60* 25* 20* 30* 25* 33* 22  21*Archer
Maxed Str at Level 7, HP/Res at Level 15
1 60* 19* 25  25  26* 33* 19  24 Mage
20 60* 19* 28* 28* 26* 33* 20* 25*Mage
Maxed Def at Level 2, Res at Level 3, Skl at Level 6, Mag at Level 7

Olivia
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
30 35  13   8  29  28  23  11  10 Dancer
1 35  16   8  29* 29* 23  12  10 Myrmidon
20 50  24* 16  29* 29* 30* 19  12 Myrmidon
Maxed Lck at Level 9, Str at Level 16
1 50  24* 17  29* 28* 30* 19  17 Pegasus Knight
20 60* 24* 23* 29* 28* 30* 21* 23 Pegasus Knight
Maxed Def at Level 8, Mag at Level 9,  HP at Level 16

Henry
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 36  11  18  17  13  15  14   7 Dark Mage
1 34  13  15  21  18  15  12   3 Thief
20 47  23* 21* 31* 28* 22  22* 10 Thief
Maxed Skl at Level 11, Str/Mag at Level 12, Spd at Level 14
1 53  28  21* 25* 27* 22  23* 10 Barbarian
20 60* 31* 21* 25* 27* 28* 23* 13 Barbarian
Maxed Str at Level 7, HP at Level 9, Lck at Level 13

Say'ri
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 56  28  11  36  33  28  19  18 Swordmaster
1 52  25* 11  29* 28* 28  17  20 Pegasus Knight
20 60* 25* 17  29* 28* 29* 22* 24 Pegasus Knight
Maxed Luck at Level 2, HP at Level 9, Def at Level 10
1 60* 28  15  25* 25* 29* 26  18 Wyvern Rider
20 60* 29* 18  25* 25* 29* 28* 21*Wyvern Rider
Maxed Str at Level 3, Def at Level 6, Res at Level 8

Tiki
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
30 50  26  17  18  21  28  22  19 Manakete
1 51  28* 17  23  25* 28  28  17 Wyvern Rider
11 60* 28* 19* 24* 25* 32* 29* 22*Wyvern Rider
Maxed Skl/Def at Level 2, Mag at Level 5, Lck at Level 7, HP at Level 8, Res at Level 11
1 57  20* 23  21  24  32* 22* 25 Mage
10 60* 20* 27* 27* 27* 32* 22* 27*Mage
Maxed HP at Level 4, Mag at Level 6, Skl at Level 10, Spd at Level 4, Res at Level 56

DLC Marth
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
30 42  26  12  31  28  33  21  12 Lodestar (Aptitude)
1 39  23  11  25* 24  33* 20   8 Cavalier (Aptitude)
20 57  27* 19  25* 25* 33* 25* 18 Cavalier (Aptitude)
Maxed Spd at Level 3, Str at Level 5, Def at Level 14

DLC Roy
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 36  16   3  19  19  10  11   3 Mercenary
1 36  17   3  16  18  10  13   3 Cavalier
20 52  22   9  28* 25* 20  20   9 Cavalier
Maxed Skl/Spd at Level 18

DLC Micaiah
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 32   6  16  16  15  19  11  15 Dark Mage
1 30   9  16  19  17  19  12  14 Tactician
20 46  16  27  25* 25  29* 16  17 Tactician
Maxed Skl at Level 9, Lck at Level 19

Let me know if I screwed up somewhere.

[Gryz]

Tests. More of them.

12 Avatars. Luck asset, HP flaw. Level 1 --> Level 20 Tactician.

HP	Str	Mag	Skl	Spd	Luk	Def	Res
23	14	16	14	14	24	14	9
29	20	19	14	16	23	14	9
25	20	14	13	16	22	15	11
27	16	18	13	19	21	11	12
27	17	12	14	15	20	11	10
29	17	16	16	20	24	13	7
26	18	12	14	17	19	16	8
28	20	14	16	16	20	14	9
30	18	16	15	13	21	17	10
24	16	14	12	13	22	14	9
32	19	20	16	15	23	14	10
26	19	19	14	18	18	14	11

20 Avatars. HP asset, Luck flaw. Level 1 --> Level 20 Tactician

HP	Str	Mag	Skl	Spd	Luk	Def	Res
47	15	11	17	13	13	14	8
45	15	9	14	17	12	14	10
46	16	14	16	18	12	13	10
43	17	13	14	17	8	16	12
43	16	17	14	15	10	14	10
47	18	17	16	13	12	17	13
47	16	9	13	16	13	15	12
44	14	14	14	16	8	19	15
45	15	12	15	16	13	17	9
44	13	10	14	15	11	10	11
44	17	12	15	19	8	15	9
44	14	9	16	19	9	8	9   <-- LOL at that defense
43	14	15	11	13	10	19	9
45	12	14	15	12	9	16	8
44	17	9	14	13	10	19	11
45	13	14	13	15	10	17	10
45	15	13	12	17	14	15	11
44	12	12	13	15	11	13	16
44	15	15	16	12	11	13	11
44	14	12	18	16	14	17	11

Getting more confident HP flaw is 60% and HP asset is 110%.

Also, I suspect that Luck growth with Luck asset (without interfering flaws) is higher than 65%. Like 70-75% with it currently leaning more towards 75%.

Fun story:

I had a +HP/-Luk Avatar not gain Magic for the first 13 level-ups. With a reportedly 45% growth, that's approximately a 1/2373 chance. No where near the odds of a shiny Pokemon though. :(

For being such good customers, have a free Virion on the house... Oh? You didn't know I am charging by the level-up?

Virion: Level 2 --> Level 20 Archer. The "Skill +2" skill not included in stats.

HP	Str	Mag	Skl	Spd	Luk	Def	Res
34	15	4	21	17	15	15	5

[Crazycolorz5]

We need a better way to organize this data... Seriously. How about a google doc, separated by character with each class, with a "Hp gained/levels: ... str gained/levels ..." etc. (reason the level gain is separated is so that if someone maxes a stat it won't matter and we can still use the data for the other stats. Then everyone can just tally and add one where it's due.

waves hand wildly Ooh me me I wanna process this data!!! I mean I can do some number crunching if you want me to...

Edit: also, personally I think we should ignore the kids and/or MU until we have all the non-confusing-growth characters mapped out first.

Edited March 12, 2013 by Crazycolorz5

[Lord Raven]

Paperblade originally had an excel doc but his laptop crashed. Once I'm on break and can get online more, paper and I will setup the google doc and recalculate it

[ThatNinjaGuy]

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but +HP!Avatar has a >100% HP growth, because mine's just went up by two

[OcarinaOfDoom]

Lon'qu Myrmidon Lv.10

HP 25 Str 9 Mag 2 Skill 17 Spd 19 Lck 10 Def 8 Res 3

Vaike Fighter Lv.13

HP 36(HP+5 not included) Str 16 Mag 3 Skill 15 Spd 13 Lck 10 Def 11 Res 0

Stahl Cavalier Lv.13

HP 32 Str 16 Mag 3 Skill 12 Spd 11 Lck 13 Def 15 Res 3

Miriel Mage Lv.16

HP 28 Str 1 Mag 17 SKill 16 Spd 16 Lck 15 Def 7 Res 8

Ricken Mage Lv.10

HP 27 Str 5 Mag 10 Skill 9 Spd 8 Lck 15 Def 10 Res 8

Chrom Lord Lv. 15

HP 32 Str 16 Mag 3 Skill 16 Spd 18 Lck 15 Def 14 Res 4

MU Tactician +Spd -Res Lv.16

HP 32 Str 13 Mag 14 Skill 14 Spd 20 Lck 11 Def 12 Res 6

Sumia Pegasus Knight Lv.12

HP 26 Str 14 Mag 8 Skill 19 Spd 18 Lck 14 Def 9 Res 13

Sully Cavalier Lv.13

HP 28 Str 13 Mag 2 Skill 13 Spd 14 Lck 17 Def 12 Res 5

Virion Archer Lv.12

HP 25 Str 11 Mag 3 Skill 13 Spd 11 Lck 12 Def 11 Res 3

all on Normal

[PKL]

Miriel Lv20

HP 21 Str 1 Mag 14 Skl 16 Spd 17 Lck 14 Def 4 Res 10

and a 10/3 Sage Miriel from the draft but I doubt its useful

29hp 3Str 15Mag 16Skl 18Spd 16Lck 7Def 10Res

I really shouldnt use Miriel as a sage ever.

Edited March 16, 2013 by CordeliaxFrederick

[Lord Raven]

We just compiled a google doc to keep track of stuff. I'll be updating it throughout the day today, no promises on daily updates (or even weekly updates) but I will try my best.

https://docs.google.com/a/umbc.edu/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhpIpUc0mrHgdEVFbk9WQ21XMUFReGhxdEJUeHVoVGc#gid=0

We have separate tabs to view the data compiled for each character and class. It'll look a little congested but I'll try my best to organize it.

EDIT: Also, is there any way to split the individual spreadsheets on the google docs into "folders" or something?

Edited March 18, 2013 by Lord Raven

[Titamon]

Avatar (spd+, def-)
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 35  18  16  16  20  15  10  6 Tactician

Lon'qu
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 35  15  6  26  26  16  10  4 Myrmidon

Sully
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 37  12   6  16  20  19  16   8 Cavalier

Vaike
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 42+5 20   1  19  17  15  15  3 Fighter

Miriel
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 32  2  15  16  17  19   9  14 Mage

Chrom
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 33 20  4  19  19  14  17  6   Lord

[Lord Raven]

Hey again, I used google folders in google drive to organize them.

Here is the link to the google folder.

Finished and updated everything. :)

Edited March 19, 2013 by Lord Raven

[Paperblade]

Chrom's Lord growths are really close to having only one multiple of 5 left as an option.

Also, for those of you who don't know how to read CIs, it calculates 2 sigma, so the growths are the top row of numbers in the gold area +/- the second row divided by 2. So Chrom's growths are

HP: 81 +/- 2.5 (80%)

Str: 61 +/- 3.5 (60%)

Mag: 11 +/- 2 (10%)

Skl: 63 +/- 3.5 (60/65%)

Spd: 60 +/- 3.5 (60%)

Lck: 69 +/- 3 (70%)

Def: 47 +/- 3.5 (45/50%)

Res: 23 +/- 3 (20/25%)

Edited March 19, 2013 by Paperblade

[eclipse]

[03/18/13 21:40] <clipseykitty> Okay. Cherche incoming.

And some other bonus characters for giggles.

Name       Class       Level  HP  Str  Mag  Skl  Spd  Lck  Def  Res
Virion     Archer      14.65  30  10    1   19   13   13   10    4
Gaius      Thief       16.13  32  14    6   23   21    8    8    5
Nowi       Manakete    10.32  26   8    4    6    5   13    8    8
Olivia     Dancer       9.98  25   4    1   15   13   10    5    4
Cherche    W. Rider    19.24  38  21    4   16   13   12   20    3

[General Horace]

UNIT              LEVEL     HP ST MG SK SP LC DF RS  CLASS
LISSA              16       25 03 12 13 11 15 07 12  CLERIC
AVATAR (+LCK-RES)  15       32 14 12 11 14 18 09 05  TACTICIAN
DONNEL             10       25 06 04 09 09 20 06 02  VILLAGER W APTITUDE
CHROM              15       32 16 03 14 16 15 14 05  LORD
VIRION             14       30 13 04 18 12 11 11 03  ARCHER

[PKL]

Unit	Class		Lv	HP	St	Mg	Sk	Sp	Lk	Df	Rs
Say'ri	Swordmaster	20	59	31	12	35	39	28	21	18
Cherche	Wyvern Rider	20	39	21	2	18	16	13	21	5
Henry	Dark Mage	20	37	11	17	20	12	13	17	6
Sumia	Pegasus Knight	20	31	10	10	27	25	21	8	13

I keep getting awful Sumias :/. Surprised at Say'ri. Henry is awful.

EDIT:

Above awful Sumia grinded to Level 20 Dark Flier real quick.

Unit	Class		Lv	HP	St	Mg	Sk	Sp	Lk	Df	Rs
Sumia	Dark Flier	20	50	20	24	43	36	31	13	27

I think Dark Flier might drastically affect mag, res and spd growth. She capped skl exactly at Level 20 Dark Flier

Edited March 19, 2013 by CordeliaxFrederick

[Lord Raven]

Updated up until now (and added some of my own stats in, expect like 39 levels of DLC Alm, whose Str growth may be 80%) but quick request - if you do not list base stats, then instead mention which mode you are playing on. Some units (like Cherche) are easy to guess because I know she has 100% HP growth, but other units are a little harder to guess. I've been assuming hard mode generally, and hopefully I've been correct.

Also, for my convenience, please list the Level 1 stats if you promote. For example, with PKL (even if he is an ass and has me on ignore I'm going to place this out there for all of the people out there who do follow directions and requests), he listed the Level 20 stats for Sumia and her Level 20 stats as a Dark Flier, mentioning that it's the same Sumia. It's more convenient for me if you list the post-promotion stats, as opposed to having me look up the promo gains and constantly second guess my ability to add because i'm flipping through like 4 windows at once.

Thanks!

[PKL]

Updated up until now (and added some of my own stats in, expect like 39 levels of DLC Alm, whose Str growth may be 80%) but quick request - if you do not list base stats, then instead mention which mode you are playing on. Some units (like Cherche) are easy to guess because I know she has 100% HP growth, but other units are a little harder to guess. I've been assuming hard mode generally, and hopefully I've been correct.

Also, for my convenience, please list the Level 1 stats if you promote. For example, with PKL (even if he is an ass and has me on ignore I'm going to place this out there for all of the people out there who do follow directions and requests), he listed the Level 20 stats for Sumia and her Level 20 stats as a Dark Flier, mentioning that it's the same Sumia. It's more convenient for me if you list the post-promotion stats, as opposed to having me look up the promo gains and constantly second guess my ability to add because i'm flipping through like 4 windows at once.

Thanks!

Heh, nobody here lists promo gains if theyre the same character. Yet, of course, Im the only you call out. tsk tsk I was kind enough to level a Sumia in EXPonential growth and track her stats for the sake of this project. Now I would appreciate if you weren't criticizing me 24/7. Look at yourself first, "Lord" Raven. Mr. Perfect.

[Lord Raven]

I was listing an example because you were the post directly above me and the only post on this page that did that. Not sure why you took that particular part of the post as a personal attack (the thing in parens was, though), because I'm not going to link them to Balcerzak's post a couple pages back just to show them what I'm talking about lol

If I was really being spiteful, I'd have called your name out for the first half of the post too. But I didn't, because I thought I didn't need an example to illustrate my point.

Edited March 20, 2013 by Lord Raven

[PKL]

I was listing an example because you were the post directly above me. Not sure why you took that particular part of the post as a personal attack (the thing in parens was, though), because I'm not going to link them to Balcerzak's post a couple pages back just to show them what I'm talking about lol

Whatever.

[Titamon]

Avatar (Spd +, Def -)
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
1  54  27  20  31  35  25  15  10 Swordmaster

Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Class
20 72  37  26  42  50* 36  20  15 Swordmaster

*Spd Capped at lvl 18

[eclipse]

If it helps, all the stats I've listed so far are on Hard. Does the mode make a difference, in terms of growth?

[Lord Raven]

eclipse: I assumed as much haha

It doesn't make a difference, but some units have slightly different base stats that affect the growths when we input your statistics into the spreadsheet. It makes a slight difference for some units, but someone like Cherche if i assume the wrong mode then she no longer has 100% +/- 0% growth anymore. Which sucks because she has a pretty strong case of having 100% HP growth lol

[eclipse]

eclipse: I assumed as much haha

It doesn't make a difference, but some units have slightly different base stats that affect the growths when we input your statistics into the spreadsheet. It makes a slight difference for some units, but someone like Cherche if i assume the wrong mode then she no longer has 100% +/- 0% growth anymore. Which sucks because she has a pretty strong case of having 100% HP growth lol

Oh, right, I completely forgot about that! For whatever I input, assume Hard Mode unless I say otherwise (Normal is roflstomp mode, and I'm not interested in Lunatic yet).

[Ema Skye]

Dunno if it's been brought up before, but Berzerker!Gregor has over 100% HP Growth.