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Don't forget DD on Charizard, after all that's X's greatest strength.

On the topic of the rest of the team:

I'd take SR instead of Spikes on Ferrothorn, but that's just me.

Jellicent is a tank, not a sweeper - it's SpA and Speed suck.

Your Aegislash got only SS and Ironhead as attacks - if you want to run SD/King's Shield (one of the weaker builds imo), you should go for Sacred Sword instead of Ironhead.

Don't you use that Berry or Choiceband on Azumarill? Splash Plate seems weird >_>

Voltswitch/Thunderbolt seems to be overkill on Rotom, I'd go for something else (Trick and Choice Scarf/Specs instead of TBolt for example).

you can't forget about water spout, though. But you do have better options for that (Blastoise). But Jelly is meant to tank. If you really want specs, at least run max SpA.

Water Plate on Azumarill is viable for the utility of switching moves or bluffing choice band.

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Wouldn't you go for Sitrus Berry (with Belly Drum) instead? I don't like the plates at all, but that's just me.

What about Aqua Tail? I'd rather take Waterfall for the better hit chance + (rarely useful) Flinch chance.

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there's no reason to use relaxed on ferro if you're not going to use gyro ball. you should also use jolly on charizard to at least speed tie with other base 100s imo.

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Don't forget DD on Charizard, after all that's X's greatest strength.

On the topic of the rest of the team:

I'd take SR instead of Spikes on Ferrothorn, but that's just me.

Jellicent is a tank, not a sweeper - it's SpA and Speed suck.

Your Aegislash got only SS and Ironhead as attacks - if you want to run SD/King's Shield (one of the weaker builds imo), you should go for Sacred Sword instead of Ironhead.

Don't you use that Berry or Choiceband on Azumarill? Splash Plate seems weird >_>

Voltswitch/Thunderbolt seems to be overkill on Rotom, I'd go for something else (Trick and Choice Scarf/Specs instead of TBolt for example).

I fixed everything except Rotom-W works well already so I left it alone, and not really sure how make Jellicent better, so...

you can't forget about water spout, though. But you do have better options for that (Blastoise). But Jelly is meant to tank. If you really want specs, at least run max SpA.

Water Plate on Azumarill is viable for the utility of switching moves or bluffing choice band.

I crested a Blastoise at that suggestion. (And named it Comet because I name my Pokemon after whoever suggests them.)

Wouldn't you go for Sitrus Berry (with Belly Drum) instead? I don't like the plates at all, but that's just me.

What about Aqua Tail? I'd rather take Waterfall for the better hit chance + (rarely useful) Flinch chance.

I switched out Aqua Tail for Waterfall.

Jiac (Ferrothorn) (M) @ Leftovers

Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 48 Def / 208 Spd
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Stealth Rock
- Leech Seed
- Gyro Ball
- Thunder Wave
Comet (Blastoise) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Rain Dish
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def
Modest Nature
- Water Spout
- Rapid Spin
- Dragon Tail
- Toxic
Crimson (Aegislash) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Brave Nature
- Shadow Sneak
- Sacred Sword
- King's Shield
- Swords Dance
Tuv (Azumarill) (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 168 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 84 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Aqua Jet
- Play Rough
- Waterfall
- Superpower
Shadow Frost (Rotom-Wash) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Will-O-Wisp
- Thunderbolt
Blyvern (Charizard-Mega-X) (M) @ Charizardite X
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Roost
- Flare Blitz
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake

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You forget some Blastoise EVs, they're probably in SpA (?).

I'd take Dragon Claw or Outrage (While I prefer Outrage, Dragon Claw seems to be better) instead of Roost or Earthquake on Charizard - Flare Blitz would be the only stab and contact move otherwise (and you'd have to Roost a lot to heal that recoil damage).Since you got plenty of Water types to deal with Heatran, I'd go for Roost and drop EQ.

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Jiac (Ferrothorn) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 48 Def / 208 Spd
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Stealth Rock
- Leech Seed
- Gyro Ball
- Thunder Wave

Comet (Blastoise) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Rain Dish
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Spd
Modest Nature
- Water Spout
- Rapid Spin
- Dragon Tail
- Toxic

Crimson (Aegislash) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Brave Nature
- Shadow Sneak
- Sacred Sword
- King's Shield
- Swords Dance

Tuv (Azumarill) (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 168 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 84 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Aqua Jet
- Play Rough
- Waterfall
- Superpower

Shadow Frost (Rotom-Wash) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Will-O-Wisp
- Thunderbolt

Blyvern (Charizard-Mega-X) (M) @ Charizardite X
Ability: Tough Claws
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Roost
- Flare Blitz
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw

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Um, when I said Blastoise, I was referring to an offensive specs set... If you want to use a utility Blastoise, use Surf instead of water spout because you WILL be getting hit.

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What's a good non-mega set up sweeper that compliments a Mega-Manectric and Landorus-T core?

I'd prefer one that isn't weak to Ice or Stealth Rock.

Tail Glow Manaphy?

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Tail Glow Manaphy?

this. or maybe the infamous calm hydration set that got it banned to ubers in 4th gen to make thunder possibly viable

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Tail Glow Manaphy?

That's what I ended up going for. Should I run Sticky Web or Thunder Wave support with it? I feel like Thundurus and Galvantula have a lot of redundancy with Mega-Mane.

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That's what I ended up going for. Should I run Sticky Web or Thunder Wave support with it? I feel like Thundurus and Galvantula have a lot of redundancy with Mega-Mane.

I use tail glow manaphy and I've never felt the need to use either TW or SW support.

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