link arena Fire Emblem Link Arena Discussion Topic

[General Horace]

I'm down for whatever really, I find not Awakening and Fe9 to be fun.

Poll it?

Edited July 21, 2015 by General Horace

[Elieson]

So I've created a functional FE6 Battle Simulator

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h6af4sQKsbrVCawxDmtBW7vyyGXoBouieyGM-6oU6EQ/edit#gid=869319365

that you don't need Excel for

Works on GoogleSheets. Buttons operate a bit differently than I hope they would, and I'm still building a few buttons, but the Calculations are spot on, and I've added some things to make your life easier.

Notice buttons for:

• Averages Meta
  • Forces all stats to calculate on a Averages Stats meta platform
• Max Stats Meta
  • Forces all stats to calculate on a Max Stats meta platform
• Clear Blue Team
  • Does what it says
• Clear Red Team
  • Same
• Attacking
  • Picks the Attacker
• Defending
  • Picks the Defender
• Dead (not functional)
  • Replaces unit's current HP with 0, and nullifies Supports linked to User

After clicking an Attacker&Defender, click Outcome

Click-Drag (to select) A1-A67, Copy, and Paste into SF. It's pretty similar to my current Excel one.

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Anyone who wants to check it out and critique/mess around with it, feel free to. If you want, Import it to your personal Drive (File->Import) so you don't compete with other people while they use it.

Edited July 21, 2015 by Elieson

[Espinosa]

Added a new poll. Also contains questions about AN+ and Vengeance that you can answer if you like.

I'd say the earlier we get rolling with the tourney the better.

[General Horace]

I agree. I've reconsidered my stance on Vengeance though, I think it's ok. I don't think sorcerers are nearly as strong as I thought they were. Still very good though.

[Elieson]

Will sign up for both

Will support forgebanning on AN

Perhaps instead of banning Vengence entirely (utterly destroying Miriel, Libra and probably Henry), why not either

• ​Nerf the Proc-rate (Skill, Skill/2?)

​or

• Nerf the damage (25% of missing HP)

Edited July 21, 2015 by Elieson

[Espinosa]

I'd say Vengeance's reliable proc rate is the good thing about it. Nerfing the damage it does would make Vengeance users stand out less, but I don't like the idea of us modifying skills to our liking (unless it's RD which we still need to play sometime). Banning stuff is fine though, I believe.

[General Horace]

Imo leave it as is, limit it, or ban it. Don't change it.

[Zerosabers]

I'd sign up for both, ban Aversa, Vengeance limited, it gets a bit crazy when you put it on multiple people. I think two units having it might be better though.

[Elieson]

The game really favors those with offensive Procs. Miriel, Libra, Henry, Gangrel and Aversa get hit hard with a Vengeance ban. Restricting it would make more sense than outright banishing it.

[AnonymousSpeed]

I'd participate in both, but I voted FE9 since that's my preference.

Aversa's Night and sorcerers are strong enough as is, let's not forge it.

Vengeance...eh, it's not a bad skill, in fact, it's pretty damn good, but there are also very effective ways to get around it, like having Gangrel sweep through the enemies team and get rid of any likely Vengeance users.

[Elieson]

Woah did somebody do a mega CopyPaste on my FE6 thingy? I just lost all my buttons

Edited July 21, 2015 by Elieson

[AnonymousSpeed]

Woah did somebody do a mega CopyPaste on my FE6 thingy? I just lost all my buttons

I haven't touched it yet, but...sorry about that man.

[Elieson]

It's ok I backed it all up, just trying to make sure what happened. If it's this easy to erase, I need to see about safety on it

[Elieson]

Repaired:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h6af4sQKsbrVCawxDmtBW7vyyGXoBouieyGM-6oU6EQ/edit#gid=869319365

[Nicolas]

I'm interested if no one else has replied! Any restrictions I should be aware of?

No berserkers and swordmasters.

[Espinosa]

I thought luck caps in max stats render SMs' and 'zerkers' innate crit rather negligible?

Back to the topic, banning Vengeance would basically just make Luna the premiere offensive and that'd be that. I think it's mostly fine.

I see there is a direction towards having a FE13 cup in the poll right now. We'll see what the tendency is like tomorrow, but I think nobody would be upset if there was a signup thread in like a day or two.

[Nicolas]

I thought luck caps in max stats render SMs' and 'zerkers' innate crit rather negligible?

Diz iz FE6

+30 crit on both SM and zerker

[Espinosa]

It becomes only 14 crit after factoring in luck, going up or down depending on what the supports are like. Compare that to, say, 29 crit when Rutger targets Lance in the averages meta. Killing Edges also become less viable because SMs suddenly have insufficient attack to pierce enemy units.

As for Berserkers, these tend to whiff all the time, and I believe their supports don't grant them nearly enough +hit, either.

Most importantly, FE6 maxes is such a stally meta that you will only appreciate the SMs and Shin/Dayan being in to get matches going somewhere.

[ZemZem]

I wouldn't mind being in an FE9 tourney, but I would want to be in say...FE6 too.

[Blackzero]

Would anybody possibly want to do a FE8 Averages no statboosters game?

[Quintessence]

Hey luci, sent team to monocle! Hope we enjoy!

[Nicolas]

Would anybody possibly want to do a FE8 Averages no statboosters game?

I wanna.

[Blackzero]

I wanna.

Alright then. I've already got a team made, so now we need to get a host.

[General Horace]

sure, I can do it.

[Blackzero]

Thanks Horace. Sending my team right over.