Gradivus. Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) This draft is mostly of the same idea as the previous one. The difference is that each player gives me their unit list (Class!Character format is enough) before the draft and I put it on pastebin. This allows everyone to see what classes the other players have while picking the units, so for example it's possible to snipe someone an important unit like a mount or refresher away. Class list: http://pastebin.com/vmCwrLF2 Drafting:1. This draft is for 5 players.2. Roy, Marcus and Merlinus are free for all to use.3. One unit will remain undrafted.4. The game will be played on Normal Mode.Randomizer options:Note: if a stat rolls more than +/- 3, I'll reduce the change to 3, and suggest you do it too. I'll leave that optional to keep things simple, though.Rules:1. Undrafted units may recruit characters, rescue undrafted units and NPCs, trade, visit Shops and Armories, and dig up items in the desert.2. Undrafted units may not do anything not listed above, including but not limited to meatshielding, building Supports, and opening Doors or Chests. 3. All Gaiden chapters are required to be visited. Chapter 20x (either route) does not count towards the total turncount up to 20 turns taken. 4. NPCs may do as they please without penalty.5. Use of the Warp staff is allowed with the restrictions listed below.6. The game must be played out to the True Ending.7. Dancers / Bards may not dance for each other.8. Roy may promote early. It is allowed and recommended to hack the demotion after chapter 21x that results from this away.9. Glitches caused by the randomizer may not be made use of. These include non-Roy Lords being able to seize and the possibility of moving units on tiles they cannot normally pass by using the drop command or a Warp/Rescue staff. Warp rules: 1. Warp may not be used on Roy or anyone carrying Roy. 2. Roy may not be warp-rescue-chained. If a unit was warped or counts as warp-rescue-chained, every unit they carry or use a rescue staff on counts as warp-rescue-chained aswell. 3. Warp-rescue-chained units may interact with Roy in any way not listed above, including but not limited to trading, dancing and healing. Penalties:1. Undrafted units have a 4-turn penalty, per unit per chapter.2. Dancers / Bards dancing for each other has a 15-turn penalty, per chapter. 3. Illegal use of warp has a 15-turn penalty, per chapter. Exceptions:1. Undrafted Thieves may be used to obtain necessary promotion items.Teams: MagicIsOP: Nomad!Roy, Sage!Marcus + Shaman!Dieck, Wyvern Rider!Wolt, Dancer!Thany, Hero!Zealot, Bishop!Fa, Peg Knight!Clarine, Thief!Rutger, Soldier!Barth, Dancer!Shin, Sniper!Bartre Carmine Sword: Cavalier!Roy, Nomad Trooper!Marcus + Wyvern Rider!Ward, Bard!Bors, Cleric!Chad, Thief!Lugh, Cavalier!Saul, Bishop!Yuno, Nomad!Wendy, Bard!Oujay, Swordmaster!Niime, Mercenary!Sophia - 145 turns General Horace: Shaman!Roy, Hero!Marcus + Wyvern Rider!Alan, Bard!Ray, Peg Knight!Sue, Paladin!Klein, Troubadour!Geese, Cavalier!Gonzales, Bishop!Igrene, Wyvern Rider!Miledy, Dancer!Zeiss, Druid!Dayan Tricky Drick: Archer!Roy, Sage!Marcus + Cavalier!Ellen, Dancer!Lot, Falcoknight!Percival, Wyvern Lord!Echidna, Brigand!Lilina, Archer!Astol, Shaman!Lalum, General!Douglas, Nomad Trooper!Karel, Troubadour!Cath - 199 turns Gradivus.: Nomad!Roy, Druid!Marcus + Wyvern Rider!Lance, Priest!Dorothy, Dancer!Tate, Sage!Cecilia, Nomad!Noah, Dancer!Treck, Nomad Trooper!Yodel, Thief!Fir, Dancer!Hugh, Valkyrie!Garret - 158 turns [spoiler=Units remaining]Elphin The randomizer: http://serenesforest...showtopic=55809 Edited August 25, 2016 by Gradivus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Fünf reporting for duty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) In, although when I made the changelog, all of the characters names and classes were posted as random characters, so I have no idea who got changed to what class outside of Chapter 1 and I don't want to re-roll since Roy and Marcus rolled decent classes. So far I have the following: Cavalier!Roy Nomadic Trooper!Marcus Archer!Lance Priestess!Alan Archer!Wolt Bard!Bors EDIT: I guess I can figure out who the characters are based on their growth rates, but I still don't know their class. I have their weapon ranks, but that doesn't really help determine their class unless they use magic. Edited April 7, 2016 by Carmine Sword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus. Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 You can try to check with nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) my roy has 2 magic and 2 speed, fml also 16 hp some dudes have multiple slots, I'm guessing its NPC/Route dependant. Shaman!Roy Thwomp!Clarine Hero!Fa Nomad!Shin Pegasus!Sue Nomad OR Druid!Dayan? (there's two of him fsr) Archer!Barth Shaman!Bors Archer!Wendy General!Douglas Cavalier!Wolt Priest!Dorothy Paladin!Klein Shaman!Saul Cavalier!Ellen Manakete or Bishop!Yodel Priest!Chad Falcoknight!Karel Myrmidon!Fir Soldier!Rutger Troubadour!Dieck Priest!Oujay Bishop!Garret Wyvern!Allen Thief!Lance Manakete!Percival Bishop!Igrene Hero!Marcus Pirate!Astohl Lord!Ward Wyvern!Lott Druid!Bartre Thief!Lugh Troubadour!Lilina Troubadour!Hugh Valkyrie!Niime Bard!Raigh Priest!Lalum WyvernLord!Yuno Thwomp or Peg!Tate (there are three of her?!?!?) Merc!Thany Dancer!Zeiss Myrmidon!Elphin Thwomp!Sophia (why) Wyvern!Miledy Wyvern or Cavalier!Gonzales Thief!Noah Pirate!Treck Sage!Zealot Bishop!Echidna Sniper!Cecilia Troubadour or Pirate!Geese Transporter!Merlinus :( Thief!Cath Edited April 7, 2016 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus. Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) At least he starts out with a good weapon! My Nomad!Roy has a poison bow, gj randomizer. Also yeah some of the extra slots for the same unit are just dialogue versions, mostly when the class is unchanged. EDIT: Horace what class is your Cath? Edited April 7, 2016 by Gradivus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicIsOP Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) In wait this is full nvm, sorry ignore me Edited April 7, 2016 by MagicIsOP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus. Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 It isn't full, drei and vier are empty slots I'll count you in unless you say otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I want to join, but at the same time I dno if i'll have the time x.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) So I've somewhat narrowed down the character classes based on their growths and weapon ranks. I'll have to play through the game to see what more specific classes are, although I was planning on at least doing the first 3 or 4 chapters anyway so that people know what early game units I have at least. Cavalier!Roy Nomadic Trooper!Marcus Pirate!Clarine Swordmaster!Fa Mage!Shin Priestess!Sue Warrior!Dayan Mage!Barth Bard!Bors Nomad!Wendy General!Douglas Archer!Wolt Nomad!Dorothy Nomadic Trooper!Klein Cavalier!Saul Cavalier!Ellen Druid!Yodel Priestess!Chad Falcon Knight!Karel Myrmidon!Fir Wyvern Rider!Rutger Soldier!Dieck Bard!Oujay Swordmaster!Garret Priestess!Allen Archer!Lance Manakete!Percival Swordmaster!Igrene Nomad!Astohl Wyvern Rider!Ward Nomad!Lott Nomadic Trooper!Bartre Thief!Lugh Myrmidon!Lilina Priest!Hugh Swordmaster!Niime Knight!Ray Archer!Lalum Bishop!Yuno Fighter!Tate Thief!Thanny Shaman!Zeiss Bard!Elphin Myrmidon!Cath Myrmidon!Sophia Mercenary!Miledy Archer(A Route) or Soldier(B Route)!Gonzales Soldier!Noah Shaman!Treck Swordmaster!Zealot Bishop!Echidna Paladin!Cecilia Priest!Geese Transporter!Merlinus Roy can ORKO the earlygame fighters at base with an Iron Sword, it's great. Marcus has no bows, but Wolt and Lance brought an Iron Bow, Longbow, and a Ballista between them, so it's all good. Marcus also has 14 strength and 11 speed, so GG earlygame axe-fest. Also, I have an army of pre-promoted Swordmasters. Edited April 9, 2016 by Carmine Sword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicIsOP Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 It isn't full, drei and vier are empty slots I'll count you in unless you say otherwise Sure, count me in then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Oh yeah, my Cath is a thief. Dunno how I missed her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus. Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 @Carmine Fyi only unpromoted units can turn into Dancer/Bard, and only promoted ones into Manakete. Also, does Nightmare also give bugged outputs for you or why didn't you find the classes with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Nightmare doesn't seem to be working either, so I've just been speedrunning the game to find out character's classes the old-fashioned way. I'm up to Chapter 5 right now, so I'll have the Chapter 6 and 7 units shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 just hack a bunch of warp staves and a staves onto someone if you're doing that, otherwise its too tedious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I'll join if Jedi doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I'll join if Jedi doesn't. Go ahead ^^; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus. Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Randomized the order already. The draftings shall begin once everyone posted their classes. Edited April 8, 2016 by Gradivus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 So I ended up doing what Horace suggested and hacked my way through the game, so everyone has their correct class listed in the post I made earlier now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I can't get version 1.1.0 or 1.1.2 to work. Based on the error, 1.0.1 might work, but I can't find it anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) If you want, I could randomize for you and send you a patch I swear I won't give you thwomp roy Edited April 8, 2016 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Bard!Roy is possibly even worse, so give him that instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Yeah, that'd be great. Thwomp Marcus would be worse than Thwomp Roy anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus. Posted April 8, 2016 Author Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) Marcus actually can't go thwomp since the FE6 version of the randomizer doesn't count Generals fsr That's why the douglases are all generals too Edited April 8, 2016 by Gradivus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 NO I failed to give you thwomp roy here's Baldo's list, i'll post the patch after I eat: Fighter!Roy Shaman!Clarine Bishop!Fae Shaman!Shin Fighter!Sue Sniper!Dayan Archer!Barth Fighter!Bors Merc!Wendy General!Douglas (does he randomize?) Pegasus!Wolt Nomad!Dorothy Hero!Klein Mage!Saul Nomad!Ellen Warrior!Yodel Nomad!Chad Berserker!Karel Merc!Fir Nomad!Rutger Wyvern!Dieck Shaman!Oujay Hero!Garret Troubadour!Allen Merc!Lance Bishop!Percival Hero!Igrene Hero!Marcus Thief!Astohl Nomad!Ward Wyvern!Lott Valkyrie!Bartre Cavalier!Lugh Mage!Lilina Thwomp!Hugh Druid!Niime Merc!Raigh Thwomp!Lalum Wyvern!Juno Thwomp!Tate Thief!Thany Wyvern!Zeiss Myrm!Elphin Shaman!Cath Troubadour!Sophia Fighter!Miledy Dancer or Myrmidon!Gonzales Nomad!Noah Mage!Treck Wyvern!Zealot Valkyrie!Echidna Druid!Cecilia Thief!Geese Transporter!Merlinus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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