CCMRCSGWNR3:FFDH Game Thread

[Psych]

Yeah that was basically my reasoning. It was before this came out about my role, so it's not like I wanted to say "Oh, Bizz is town to me, but I don't want to tell everyone why."

I was bringing that up with regards to people like Slayer and Rein. I was wondering why Bizz seemed to me more all over the place then what I would usually classify as all over the place when it comes to her.

[Percivalé]

Well, to answer Psych's legitimate concern: I know my play hasn't been the best quality it's been this game. I promise it will improve in the future, and, as I mentioned before, I'm not particularly worried because of :things:. I promise it will become clear!

(or maybe it won't... )))): )

[Prims]

Iris: Yeah, I thought his N0 posts were scummy enough to make him lynchable. Not the highest priority for me at the moment since Psych and Bal have posted stuff I find questionable more recently.

Still waiting on that SMS. Questioning Psych's weird waffle on Levity as well.

[Percivalé]

Still waiting on that SMS.

Psych says he'll feel uncomfortable if I tell you things.

I'll try my best.

[Psych]

Psych says he'll feel uncomfortable if I tell you things.

I'll try my best.

I'll feel uncomfortable if you basically say word for word why I'm clear to you. Like if you say something like I know something only you could know or whatever, then I'd be fine with that but I meant if you like explicitly tell him my role or something like that like your theories then I wouldn't like that.

[Haze]

Proto is in need of a sub, first person to send me a pm of a cute kitten and bunny eating together gets it the slot.

Edited May 21, 2012 by Haze

[eclipse]

Well, then. I still haven't fully recovered from yesterday, and my stomach now hurts like a bitch. I'll post something coherent after I take care of the latter.

[eclipse]

Okay, back. Bleh, that wasn't fun.

To whoever's playing me: Do a better job of it. ;/

Shinori, I'm a chick. Bal,

So we've got a town-leaning Psych, Bizz, and Marth, with questionable everyone else? I can think of one person that I'm not cool with:

##Vote: Anouleth

After a certain loli mafia, I am quite against active lurking. Say something, or get a sub. Townies who say nothing don't contribute to scumhunting. Blitz, for all his stupid reasoning, has been doing a lot more than your nothing. Unless your PR is to lurk like a mofo.

[Shinori]

I know you're a she. God i'm terrible at posting he's and she's when im making posts.

Sorry to everyone for any thing i do.

[Scarlet]

Hold on. If Psych really has the role he's being softclaiming like mad, I'll be very pissed about his behaviour.

I'd like to lynch you just for acting like an idiot, but after reading this - assuming it's legit - it's probably not a good idea.

##Unvote

##Vote: Flint

Stop wasting our time and claim to Prims, son!

[Bluedoom]

While less relevant now than earlier due to claim being received, and believed, by town leader,

##Unvote:

I already did, the one that bothered me was "Yes Kay, this game is 'different' from other games, you know. :3"

Quotations around "different", in speficically rubbed me the wrong way. And if you're telling me "Aww Levity, you know I wouldn't do that. :3" was just an intent to break character and talk OOC, and not actually reversing your previous opinion, then including the smilie was a silly idea.

I dunno why you're against smilies, maybe your PR, but 'different' meant there were PRs in this game. Yeah, I was playing around ofc, I dunno why you were so paranoid about that. It feels like you were grasping a bit.

Also, I realize I've not voted.

##Vote: Shinori

Let's see. First you post with your opinions(which like, highlight obvious stuff and echo the reasons of others) then when Prims questions you, have another post trying to support you reasons. Your second post feels like you went on the defensive way too quickly: You don't need to post again with who you think is scum/townish/neutral. Rather, the town wants to know WHO you suspect. If you had addressed everything in your first post, cool, but your second post was unnecessary IMO. I don't care whether you find Eclipse/Levi/others townish or what, that's of no use to me. I'd rather you post who you suspect in your second post instead of trying to justify your opinion on everyone in the first post. That, coupled with stuff like "I still don't trust Marth" and "Inactive. Keeping an eye on him" are kinda stupid too. Yes no one trusts a person fully even when they claim, and we don't forget about inactives, sure. Don't make a big post reminding us of that. That makes me think that you're going to attempt to divert attention to the inactives and Marth if things go wrong for you.

Also, I find Psych to be stubborn like me, but just with worse reasoning on who he's finding suspicious. Same with Blitz,so I feel like these two are stubborn town to say the least. Balcerzak is suspicious because of his vote on me earlier and reasons I stated above.

[Bluedoom]

So i made a quick glance over as i'm sort of in a rush for time. I WILL NOT be on for most of the day, I'm going out very soon and i will be going to a cookout after that and hanging with family and stuff for the next 12 hours ish or so. So i can't respond to anything after i leave for obvious reasons.

That being said I'm posting my thoughts notes on everyone before i go.

1. Blitz - Doesn't want to claim to Prims, pressuring proto currently who hasn't said much this game. blah blah blah. Thinks proto and kay are scum, not sure if he means the characters or the players themselves. But thinks they are scum. Still don't like the fact that he isn't claiming, i get part of his reasoning but it's not helping town.

2. Shinori - ME. PArtially lurking and inactive the past day and a half ish going away today. Obv town.

3. Levity - Said that she trusts prims, if he is scum and they are scum buddies it is a risky move. Thinking more town, hasn't said all that much though, last 5 posts have only been about a sentence long.

4. Anouleth - Lurking. Seen him in and not posting or saying anything, i guess similiar to me, said he didn't like his PR. Neutral

5. Rein - Pretty much this. Nothing else notable in thread except beating me to first post. Neutral.

6. Eclipse - Fine with claiming to prims, pressured blitz because of him not wanting to, has been around for the most part, getting a town read i think from her.

7. Slayer - Obviously best leader for town. Amirite? Hasn't made an impression not said much, neutral. Talk more.

8. Marth - Does not want to claim to prims, seems adamantly against it. Argues that he should not have to at all, and that no matter how late he does claim, he can prove it. Either scum who is having issues with a fake claim, doesn't like town leader, or is a town who's not really helping the town by just being too careful/stupid. IF you end up getting enough votes on you anyway you will end up claiming to everyone, then the mafia will definitely know your role. Think about that.

9. Psych - Mentioned idea of lovers or something yestarday, Don't really think he's done anything notable. Voted Rein stating that we should do something useful today, I can only assume it's a pressure vote for the lack of reasoning.

10. Kay - Posted twice in the past 7 pages, can happen. Made a large post with her thoughts and reasonings on the argument at hand and voted marth.

Pretty much what alot of people are generally thinking i believe. Pressure votes on marth because he seems scummy, but generally just want him to claim to prims so we have an idea or not if we should let him live.

11. Elieson - Newbie. Hasn't said too much, mentioned the possibility that prims faked his claim, which is possible, bout i doubt it. Especially since he outed someone else as well, if they are fake claiming as scum then that's two members dead instantly pretty much. Townish vibes from sheerly him being new, otherwise neutral.

12. StSS - Townie read, mason buddy of Prims. Positive he's town, not too worried about him at the moment.

13. Iris - Claimed miller. Hasn't said much besides that, still think she's town because of miller claim, otherwise it's a ballsy mafia claim. Should post more.

14. Raymond - Should be lynched day 1. Obviously. No seriously, has been helpful. Posting a fair amount of the time and has made a few statements that i directly agree with. Such as.

Townie read CURRENTLY.

15. Proto - Don't know, not posted much, some people think he's scum. Stated a few arguments at how iris could be fake claiming, otherwise inactive/lurking, think he's only posted twice in this thread. (Speaking of which someone show me/explain to me how to find that thing that shows how many posts each person has in a thread.)

16. Prims - Mason claim, think he's town. Confirmed by strawman. Town leader. 95% sure he's town, 5% ballsy mafia duo. Should listen to this man and go ahead and claim. As stated if he's lieing we get multiple mafia members easy.

17. Balcerzak - Majority of his posts are large and consist of arguments or questions which lead to conversation which leads to helping town, therefore townie read.

This was his post in regargs to the scum team prims posted, and i'd like to hear your reasonings as well prims since i see you as town.

Anywho. There's some notes i took for all of you, feel free to copy em down, there might be a test who knows.

Also i don't know if it will be too helpful but i hope it does. Also i'm leaving know, so ##Vote: Marth for now, for generally acting scummish. I'm leaving so i can't remove this vote for a good 12 hours ish most likely. I might be able to read the thread once or twice on my IPOD, but chances are low. I'll be back in a bit!

Alot of players haven't said all that much and i can't get too many reads on them

Lets see, Prims/straw seem town to me, pretty much garunteed. If they were mafia thats a ballsy move and they end up losing two of their members easy.

Iris miller claimed, explained that, If she's scum, it's ballsy.

My thoughts on levi have been mostly town.

I think anou and proto are leaning scum, neither are saying much and it's not helping, Anou lurks, I see him come in here and not post sometimes so meh.

I still have my doubts about marth, but he claimed to prims/straw supposedly so For now I'm not gonna worry about him, still neutral leaning towards scummy. Either way ##Unvote

Elieson is neutral, newbie town don't know that much here.

Blitz is neutral leaning scum.

Kay nuetral.

Psych leaning scum.

Eclipse seeming town-ish, partialyl because him able to use the pm system, not sure why though.

Balc - Seeming helpful, started posting late but has been helpful and starting conversation constantly.

Raymond - has also been dropping decent conversation off, pressuring people and what not and seems town to me.

Everyone else is pretty much neutral. Because of not many memorable posts.

All-in-all thats a total of 5 people i think are leaning closer to scum or are scum more than neutral/town. Not just one, I ended up having to cut my previous post short of various bits of info and other stuff i had wanted to post because of me being in a rush to leave.

Also for now ##Vote: Anouleth for not talking, actively being online and not contributing overall while lurking and the few times he has posted he hasn't said a lick of anything useful, similiar to proto except proto also already has pressure on him and i know i've seen anouleth online. I know i'm not talking too much but there are plenty of people who are talking way less than me that could be helping us.

For convenience sake.

Ah yes I don't like how you think 5 players are scum. You didn't exactly say Proto, Anouleth and Psych were scum your first post, did you?

[Shinori]

I stated they were neutral reads in the first post because i was in a rush for time. I actually wanted to make the second post to post some things i didn't get in the first one. I had that planned originally. And i ended up posting to prims just that there were 5 people i though that could be leaning scum. I never said they were scum, just said that im leaning that way. Stated i was in a hurry in my post that's why not everything was fully posted or fixed and looked out of place, with too many reads messed up. That's why the second post was just as long, It was stuff i hadn't fit into the first one and bits of pieces were said twice but it was just to go with what i was typing at that time.

My first post ended up missing a lot of points that i meant to say and was kind of not properly written. Which made me require a second post already, which prims partially asked for, which was also not written well. If you want me to verify my townie reads and neutral and scum reads i can just make a small list of players and my read as neutral, town, or scum, but I'm pretty sure everyone knows what i think of the majority of players at the moment.. Also it's been drilled into my head in most of my games if you don't state reasoning or post enough info you seem scummy. I apologize if my two posts, that are basically on the same thing and should be combined into one post, caused any confusion.

[Blitz]

so, since you guys think my claims of both Kay and Proto being mafia is unjust as SF roles, why not tell me who you guys think should be the scums?

I would go with Kaoz(if he isn't I don't know who could be), Proto and Kay, Strawman and maybe Shinori if he exists

[Blitz]

also, about that claim it will have to wait cause I am saving my SMS for tonight, when it will actually be of some real use

[eclipse]

Good job, Kaoz isn't playing and Proto's in the process of being subbed out.

Scummiest is the dude I have my vote on (Anouleth) for doing a whole lot of nothing productive while keeping tabs on this thread. Second would be Blitz for giving horrible reasons for why he doesn't want to claim. Somewhat suspicious of Kay for being able to respond to Resistance without saying anything in here.

[Bluedoom]

Well eclipse he could mean the one who's char is Kaoz is scum. Whatever it is, I don't know why he's mumbling stuff like that.

Also ##Unvote

##Vote: Blitz

because it ain't funny when I'm pressured to claim and you're not.

[Prims]

scum roles: blitz, blitz, blitz, blitz, blitz

how do kay and proto not make sense as masons?

[Prims]

also blitz i bet bizz is a scum role 8)

[Blitz]

Good job, Kaoz isn't playing and Proto's in the process of being subbed out.

Scummiest is the dude I have my vote on (Anouleth) for doing a whole lot of nothing productive while keeping tabs on this thread. Second would be Blitz for giving horrible reasons for why he doesn't want to claim. Somewhat suspicious of Kay for being able to respond to Resistance without saying anything in here.

I meant as roles, sheeesh looks like you will do anything to get dirt on me cause I suspect you

[Prims]

in fact i am so sure that levity is a scum role that if whoever has her role is cleared i think we should IGNORE THEM COMPLETELY and not claim to them because there's obviously no way she'd be town, just because it doesn't make sense and levity would probably be a scum role

[Blitz]

scum roles: blitz, blitz, blitz, blitz, blitz

how do kay and proto not make sense as masons?

lol funny

because my gut says it is something you invented

[Prims]

w/e i think your reasons for not claiming to me are dumb

that said idc and i don't believe we should be lynching you

[Blitz]

maybe, but I am till going with my gut

also, can't looking in the garbage to place dirt on me Eclipse?

[Bluedoom]

So a very late response, but a response, nonetheless.

See, if Prims gets claims from everyone, he can coordinate everyone's roles so the town is more efficient. He can see if multiple people claim the same thing earlier on. Also, if everyone in the town claims ASAP, then unless the mafia wrote fakeclaims right away, they would be the last ones to claim, and it would be easy to pick them out, Obviously things won't really go that well because there are always paranoid people and that's not really a bad thing, and the mafia might well have fakeclaims or at least some of them, but it still works to some extent and you should be able to see this.

Go read SSBB Mafia or another game like that if you doubt the usefulness of a town leader. It's a really boring strategy but your argument seems to be that it won't be worthwhile and that's kinda silly. Plus you'll probably be quite likely to be lynched if you don't claim since you already don't look great and not claiming makes it look like you have something to hide, and getting lynched isn't exactly helpful to the town either.

Besides, what else are you going to do with your messages that's so much less of a waste?

I didn't want to claim immediately because I wanted to, hopefully, put in a few more words concerning the events of D1 if I had to. I also had said that I could prove that I'm not fakeclaiming. Not like it matters now though.Yeah, all this for a waste of a message. *facepalm*

"I'm not actually revealing anything with my posts because that might be scummy and I would definitely never act scummy. Please point out where and how I acted scummy so I can deny it specifically since I forgot what opinion I was pretending to have."

Wanting to claim on N1 apparently, wanting Prims to waste a message contacting him (seriously, what do you even think he should say? "Yeah, everything I said in the thread is true, please claim already"?), acting somewhat weird on N0 (Yeah, I didn't think that was scummy, but when combined with general scumminess later on, acting like a noob is still not good), and he just doesn't give me much reason not to suspect him.

Ok, first off, Bal made a big deal about my N0 behaviour, which is really odd because I dunno how you can get anything from it, as I said, I was playing around. Now you're saying that me refuting that does not look well? What?

I didn't want prims to send a message. I realize I've been paranoid as heck, but I wanted to know if they had finished up using their messages(yeah, call me dumb for that, I deserve it.) Oh and ofc I would've initiated the convo, I'm not that stuid at least.