Blitz Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 @Marth, why Haze? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subieko Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 I'm trying to get actual good D1 discussion going so that we have a possible chance at getting an informed lynch to happen. This is good thinking, not sure why Blitz is suspicious of it or whatever... And if we do end up going no lynch ...but why would we even consider a no lynch? I thought no lynch was bad for Town and that you were supposed to always lynch D1. Isn't the lynch how we get information? 2) Was anyone hooked last night? Seems to me like it's a good idea to get the fact that there's a possible roleblocking role out there as soon as possible. This bit kind of made me feel like you know something I don't...are you implying you were roleblocked? Or am I imagining things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Blitz: So the reason for 3 is that I think it's not a bad idea to save up your messages in case you gain very important info. Also, as you said, if you're messaging a random it's just that. A random. And if you message someone, even if you don't intend to give them info, you probably will unless it's a completely useless message, or as Prims suggested, messaging your highest scum suspect the first 1000 characters of Time Cube. And it's not like you have to listen to me. I just think that it's for the best to save your messages until you have something useful to send in them and a at least mostly trustworthy person to send them to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 This is good thinking, not sure why Blitz is suspicious of it or whatever... ...but why would we even consider a no lynch? I thought no lynch was bad for Town and that you were supposed to always lynch D1. Isn't the lynch how we get information? This bit kind of made me feel like you know something I don't...are you implying you were roleblocked? Or am I imagining things. Blitz is #1 Scumhunter. That's why. You are absolutely correct. And Roleblockers are kind of common in these games. It's easy to assume that there is a roleblocker (I was recently in a 9-person game with 2 roleblockers). So...it could mean several things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subieko Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 2)If you claim hooked, you tell everyone whether your role is active or passive, some people don't care outing that, but others do.And in N0, there is a special condition of no killing, so if the vig was blocked, s/he wouldn't even know it and the roleblocker would. Why would the vig shoot on a night when we know there's no kills? That seems silly. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 I meant you didn't have to state that, it is too obvious anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Subieko: A lot of the time, in NOC or limited OC like this game, the first day ends up being No Lynch if it started on N0 due to the lack of information. I personally don't think it's the best idea all the time, but sometimes there really isn't a suspect so going NL just seems like the safest idea rather than losing an innocent townie or possible PR. And no, I wasn't hooked. I'd just prefer to know asap if there is a roleblocker out there, because like I said, info is useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 vig can't shoot on N0, but if the mafia blocks the person, and everyone hooked decides to claim hooked N0, it might be bad cause the mafia will figure out the passive roles if the hit a passive role N0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Marth: I dunno. There was part of me that doesn't completely trust Haze. It'd be really easy to claim night bomb to keep people from visiting you, especially if the mafia were provided with a list of safe claims. Or PGO. Or both?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Blitz: Again, like I said to Paperblade, yes it seems obvious. But, there are also a lot of newer players in this game. This is my third game, and my second with limited OC. The first one was Homestuck mafia where people were messaging people on the first day even though they had no clue what people's alignment was. If it wasn't for the fact that I have been reading a lot of older games, I probably would have considered messaging someone. So I thought it wouldn't be a bad idea to include it. *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Here. If scorri is gonna try to get things going, let me make myself useful too. Go ahead, answer at your own whim. 1. Why are you a bad lynch target for D1? 2. Any odd behaviors/things of note you noticed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Elision: Oh, right. PGO =/= night bomb. I had those two terms equal in my head, but that's not right, is it? PGO just kills the visitor, while night bomb kills both, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 @Marth, why Haze? He claimed PGO, it seems. Not that I feel like sending an sms this phase anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subieko Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Subieko: A lot of the time, in NOC or limited OC like this game, the first day ends up being No Lynch if it started on N0 due to the lack of information. I personally don't think it's the best idea all the time, but sometimes there really isn't a suspect so going NL just seems like the safest idea rather than losing an innocent townie or possible PR. It's true that there's a risk of mislynch, but if you no lynch D1 don't you just face the same problem on D2? Unless a PR gets lucky I guess. I dunno, it seems like more info is better for us. And no, I wasn't hooked. I'd just prefer to know asap if there is a roleblocker out there, because like I said, info is useful. Ah, makes sense. Elieson explained that RB is common in these games so I guess it's just logical to ask about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Elision: Oh, right. PGO =/= night bomb. I had those two terms equal in my head, but that's not right, is it? PGO just kills the visitor, while night bomb kills both, right? PGO kills visitors (including a killer). Night bomb kills both. Bomb kills both night visitor OR last voter in a scenario where the bomb is lynched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 1) Cause I'm working to try and get people working together and cause I have a fun role. Also, if I was scum I would have just joined in the random voting and let real discussion get put off for as long as possible. 2) Eh, currently don't really have any suspicions. Blitz seems to be wary of stuff, which honestly to me makes him seem more townish cause he seems worried about giving mafia too much infor. Besides that everyone is pretty much neutral in my eyes. I'll update that after more stuff has been said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 A;right, since we're talking about stuff, Scorri, are you softclaiming that you got hooked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 if she was wouldn't she have done what she suggested hooked people do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 @Elieson's questions 1) other than my alignment, I got nothing else to say.Just know that if you lynch me, I will turn up town 2) I would like to know why Marth trust Haze's claim.Also, Subieko seems kinda odd Also @Elieson, I am not a very good scum hunter, but I am probably the luckiest one.(A proof of that would be the fact that I never caught you in any of your mischief) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Marth: Nope. As I told Subieko, I was not blocked last night. Thus why I'm asking. If I had been, I'd probably come right out and say it cause I feel it's more helpful for the town to know a roleblocker exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 also, forgot to mention, I think I like Scorri's reactions (for now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 I don't know Blitz, PGO isn't a mafia role for one thing. And claiming early makes it pretty trustworthy, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 you do realize it could be one, just cause it normally isn't doesn't mean it has to be town Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Except PGO would give the mafia an extra kill, and that's overpowered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorri Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Also, Marth your new name makes me think of the blue screen of death... *shudder* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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