The Great Awakening - Game Over

[Shinori]

Probably.

But I am definitely town. I just apparently suck this game.

For what it matters my claim is in my first post. PRIMS GO SOLVE THE PUZZLE.

[Prims]

shinori is mafia triplevoter confirmed

[Shinori]

Fuck prims got me.

[Bluedoom]

Sorry guys I lied I'm Scum Miller

[Shinori]

So scum that scans as scum.

[charlie_]

Shinori and Areox do something for fucks sake.

[Shinori]

Quick iso says an SB case could be very good. Will have to do in-depth reading. I'll post later today. I'm playing league at the moment and don't intend to stop and make my friend wait while I spend half an hour isoing quoting and posting.

[Shinori]

So frankly there is still at least a day and a half left quite possibly 2 days. I'm bad with time conversion with GMT.

So to be frank. I'll do something in a bit don't rush me. You seem a lot more aggressive than normal and that seems weird.

[Elieson]

Shinori, inactivity is pretty high all around and you haven't done jack for most of this game. I think any complaints about inactivity are warranted

Especially since an inactive was scum

[charlie_]

Then Shinori I expect a case that doesn't reek of omgus because that vague "I can see a case on SB" isn't exactly pushing your scumreads hard enough. But I digress.

Minor scumread on Lucina in the one post that she has made. Rapier was pretty much null.

Yo.

yo

Thinking that based on the Emmeryn thing, Darros is either town or independent, but at worst, he's not threatening.

ok

Hey Aerox, if you see this can you come in and say some stuff please? Also I'd suggest that no one else votes him because he's already really close to deadline lynch as is (or so I believe).

prod with nothing to back it

Not 100% behind Prims' claim because it seems like it does something like this in every other game he's in, but it's something that we can for sure use today.

"i'm not sure"

Would like more posts from Kay and Shinori, as I don't have much material on them to work on.

prod

Elie being roleblocked is interesting. I'd be okay with this lynch unless we get something about Aerox. So I'll ##Vote: Elieson for now.

this kind of bugs me because with the other eli votes, they at least had reasoning behind it besides "he was roleblocked". I know that scumhook flipped already, but if Eli was scum he could have just kept quiet about being blocked and kept the info to himself and his scumbuddies. Scum!Eli wouldn't have anything to gain from outing it: it could easily be town outing that he got blocked and people are jumping on him for it based solely off of rolespec. I know there's not a lot to go off based on activity, but come on.

We now return to our normally scheduled program about Elieson, Paperblade and Marth.

this show is shit marth was way better playing as the lone wagonee

[BBM]

##Unvote, ##Vote: Lucina

Post basically consisted of asking other people to be more active, but she hasn't said anything either. Granted, she's just subbed in, but what's the point of asking people to be more active if you're not even going to say anything useful about the people who are active?

[Areox]

Alright..I've taken the time to read the thread...this is my first mafia and I didn't really I know I needed to be active Very often. I've got reads, as you all call it, and I'll post when I get home in about an hour. Cheers.

[Shinori]

SB stuff:

Post one: Gets caught up and things votes Darros.

Post two: LUL MORE CONTENT

Post three: Comments on vig in regards to someone asking about a possible vig shot.

Post four: Comment about inactives for the most part. Also slight defense of Smiles.

I'm also not liking the fact you're not voting your scumread, the Smiles vote is doing nothing.

Post five: Says he derped still says smiles vote isn't helping.

Post six: Says Marth vote reasoning is horrible, really hasn't stated many reads/thoughts of any value by this time in the game still. Also vote sitll parked on Darros but w/e.

Post Seven: Comments about Prims

Post eight: WELL WE AREN'T NO LYNCHING

Post nine: Replies what he derped about regarding smiles scum read.

Post ten: Says paperblade should stop posting questions and post reads, MEANWHILE SB HASNT STATED ANY DAMN READS EXCEPT HIS VOTE PARK ON DARROS FRANKLY. Says he doesn't wanna lynch Marth.

Post eleven: Big post - Says a few various things but nothing seems really all that good. Votes Paper for not actively scum hunting and asking a lot of questions. Also says the smiles vote doesn't look all that good just not in so many words. Really not liking this stuff based off of Smiles flip.

Post twelve: "fix'd"

Post thirteen: "SMILES WAGON IS TERRIBLE" He defended him basically the whole day. KAY.

Post fourteen: People get in here.

Post fifteen: "YOU STILL HAVENT SAID WHO YOU THINK IS SCUM"

Post sixteen: Says he believes paper's claim. Goes to reread.

Post seventeen: Unvotes.

Post eighteen: Doesn't like lynching Smiles. Votes him. Weren't we talking about the possibility of bussing and stuff or things. He defended him for mostly the entire day then still says he doesn't want to lynch him. Dunno about this after the flip. I would think defending him so hard would be silly but also at a certain point I guess he couldn't just flip and say he thought that Smiles was scummy. Mind you even though he defended Smiles slightly for most of the day AND said he hated the wagon AND said the votes were all terrible he NEVER did anything to get people off of Smiles.

Post Nineteen: Then we get to the day where he votes me.

OKAY SO ALL IN ALL.

SB has not posted many real reads. He sat vote parked on Darros for the majority of Day 1 and defended Smiles yet never actually tried to get the votes off of him or really scum hunted to get the votes onto someone else. Also his vote onto Paper was terrible considering if you look over his posts he really doesn't post many reads or scumhunt in them.

##Vote: SB

I'm fine with my vote being here.

[Shinori]

If I don't respond I most likely went to sleep and I'll post stuff when I wake up.

SB wagon should start though. Gogo.

[charlie_]

Basically no reads. Are you reaaaaaaaaaaaaally sure about that Shinori? Also, the entire phase for me was just over a day, not including the time I was sleeping. And you're even further wrong Shinori. Why? Because I was only on Darros for around 9 hours. From here to here. Check the times. 12:13 am to 9:14 am on the same day. That's hardly all phase long is it. And yes, I commented on finding other people scummy while having my vote on someone else. That was because I still found them scummy, is that really hard to figure out? I can have multiple reads you know.

After seeing how terrible that case with I think my vote's gonna sit here for a while.

Also, a heads up - I won't be here till late tomorrow.

[charlie_]

Oh I posted the same link twice derp

Here to here.

[Shinori]

You didn't even mention your entire time you spent saying the smiles lynch was terrible, yet never did anything to stop it. I still say the darros park was bad because you commented to other people (I even quoted a post) How someone's smiles vote wasn't helping anything at all when your darros vote was probably in that area as well in my opinion.

And yes, not many reads. Because going through your iso doesn't give a concrete filling of what you thought of most players.

[charlie_]

Does anyone's ISO give you a damn concrete filling of what they think of other players Shinori? Yours has even less that mine. I've brought up my thoughts on (off of the top of my head) Lucina, Paper, Eli, Darros, yourself and Marth. Anyone else I haven't brought up yet doesn't have enough for me to read deeply into them (with maybe the exception of Prims.) I didn't do a lot to stop Smiles from being lynched because I had townreads on every other major wagon at the time, and a null one on Smiles. What I thought was happening was opportunistic scum jumping on a noob wagon. Obviously I was wrong, and that's good, but it could easily have been that.

Eh. The Darros point is probably valid, but I figured that since I'd just subbed in it'd be important for me to show that Darros was my primary scumread.

[Shinori]

Null read on smiles? That's not the way it seemed during your posts. Going through your posts you mentioned that it was bad and that votes against him were bad. If it was null I wouldn't think you would be so hateful against it.

[Shinori]

And yeah normally iso's can give a decent idea of what a player is thinking about other players.

[charlie_]

I was nullreading Smiles (mostly due to noobness) but I thought the wagon on him was bad.

Also, I know your thoughts on a total of one player. Me. I can't tell what you're thinking about Areox, and retracted your scumread on Paper when he claimed. In fact, you voted him THEN read his claim. Have you been writing as you read?

So Shinori, what are your thoughts on the rest of the game, which you haven't said anything about.

[charlie_]

And yeah normally iso's can give a decent idea of what a player is thinking about other players.

Then why does yours not do this?

[Shinori]

Cause as it's been stated plenty of times I've been inactive and as I MYSELF STATED THIS DAY PHASE. I'm having issues getting any reads on anyone.

Also that paper thing I had read his claim before. I just forgot it and I had voted him because his post he had made shortly before me voting him had me thinking paranoia ish thoughts again.

[charlie_]

So your reread only gave you suspicions of me, and nothing on anyone else?

[Paperblade]

Wagons can be bad because of the way people are voting and not because of the townliness of the lynchee.

I think it's odd that Prims is looking for scum on the Smile wagon when his scumreads on D1 were:

Marth (obvtown due to claim and interaction with Smile)

Me (the only person actually on the scum wagon iirc)

Smile himself

iirc the Smile wagon was Darros, me, Mancer, Kay, and SB.

Prims' fake cop claim today seemed really lazy (considering he joked about it D1 as well) and his contentedness with the Marth lynch was eh, and his play overall seems off, like someone trying to emulate Prims.