Kriemhild Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Night 2 - Send Furetchen to kill Bal I won't accept it if you post it here. You have to either send your action in the Mafia PM or privately to me/Naggy on IRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Are you implying that you and the town are separate entities? I don't know. I'm not genius at mafia, but that's not a good way to defend yourself, for certain. Maybe try to say why lynching you isn't a good idea, or why you're town, or why the reasons they want to lynch you for are wrong. Oops I guess I townslipped. I might've done some of those if there was more gravity to the situation. I saw that there were basically only 2 lynch candidates, and I figured I could make 13th seem a more attractive lynch, so I opted to defend myself that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I might've done some of those if there was more gravity to the situation. I saw that there were basically only 2 lynch candidates, and I figured I could make 13th seem a more attractive lynch, so I opted to defend myself that way. I don't think I'm buying this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Offering another lynch target is acceptable, but it must be done in such a way that the logic doesn't feel like "I'm pushing a mislynch". At the same time, you are free to do things like say why you're not a good lynch target, help out in general, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Offering another lynch target is acceptable, but it must be done in such a way that the logic doesn't feel like "I'm pushing a mislynch". And that's what it looked like here, besides looking like a desperate "I'm out of every other option" defence. Besides, I don't think it's acceptable in defence if it's your only defence. It wouldn't have looked as bad to me if he actually, you know, cared to say why he isn't a good lynch, but he went straight for 13th instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I don't think I'm buying this. I'm sorry to hear that. Upon further contemplation, I tried other things. Iirc I was able to justify everything(although my explanations might not've made 100% sense) except me being wishy-washy, which I'll agree with. I did this before comparing myself to 13th, take notice. The main problem was that nobody else was under scrutiny so I was automatically one of the scummiest. Bottom line, I've been trying to play this game with a confident attitude, something I don't always do. Sometimes it helps me, sometimes it doesn't. This game I seemed to have gained too much negative attention. My mistakes have been well documented(mistakes will happen, I don't take notes/keep a spreadsheet) and its biting me in the butt. Oh, and my passive aggressive post style probably doesn't help people's opinions of me. So, I'm reiterating that I am town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Oh, and my passive aggressive post style probably doesn't help people's opinions of me. It definitely doesn't. So, I'm reiterating that I am town. Well, alright. I'll drop this for the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoz Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 For example, that last day phase...I voted for Rapier so that 13th wouldn't get lynched, and Iris did it for the same reason it seems, but we got two last minute votes from Kaoz and Core...I'm not sure what to think of those. Kaoz has been giving me town vibes generally, but that didn't look good. Core, on the other hand, hasn't been giving me town vibes, and that really didn't make him look good. Oh? I'm 90% sure that you would have done the exact same thing in my position... or am I wrong about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Oh? I'm 90% sure that you would have done the exact same thing in my position... or am I wrong about that? I did say it doesn't look as suspicious when I actually look back at it. And since you're here, I'd like to hear more of your thoughts. I feel like you haven't been giving enough input lately, so tell me your thoughts on the current situation, who you are most suspicious towards, who you think would be an optimal lynch, and etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoz Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 And since you're here, I'd like to hear more of your thoughts. I feel like you haven't been giving enough input lately, so tell me your thoughts on the current situation, who you are most suspicious towards, who you think would be an optimal lynch, and etc. Sure, why not. Our current situation depends on the setup a lot I'd say. Assuming something like 9/3/2 would put us at a 8/3/1 atm, which would allow us 1-2 more mislynches (depending on whether Sho supports us or the mafia), so we should be careful about that tomorow... though to be honest, assuming we still had Blitz, we would have 2 mislynches left, which would allow for 3 mislynches in total, which is quite a bit and combined with multiple BPVs (not town apparenlty, but they are there), I'm wondering whether it'd be wrong to consider setups in which we are less advantaged, such as 8/4/2 or perhaps rather 8/3/1/2 (one SK)... there were no deaths last night, but given the amount of protection, who knows... I think we should go into D3 with the mindset that we have no more than one mislynch remaining, just to be on the safe side. Concerning the D2 lynch, it could be worth noting that four of the seven votes were made by people that also voted for Blitz during the D1 lynch and that both times they turned the lynch around. As for who I'm most suspicious of, I'll use that point system I asked you to use... 8 - Core, 13th 7 - Kay 6 - Rein, eclipse, Snike, Iris 5 - JB 4 - Nightmare, Strawman Players aren't ordered within a tier, I'll provide explanations for individual positions upon request, I hope that's acceptable. Furthermore, I don't think an optimal lynch for D3 can be determined at this point in time, it depends largely on the developments during the day, as well as any investigative results we might receive. Anything else? If not, I would like to ask Snike to give his opinions on everyone, as iirc he hasn't done so yet (if he did and I don't remember it, my apologies). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I'd like it if you explained everyone. That way, if you turn up dead, we have something to go off of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 1. Wow. . .that was a beautiful, nonexistent explanation. 2. Phase time needs to be updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoz Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I'd like it if you explained everyone. That way, if you turn up dead, we have something to go off of. 8 - Core, 13th 7 - Kay 6 - Rein, eclipse, Snike, Iris 5 - JB 4 - Nightmare, Strawman Core - he's just not done much that makes him look particularly good.. I don't really think it was bad that he added the vote right before phase end like you and Nightmare, but rather that he didn't have the guts to make the decision in the first place, even though he tried to get 13th lynched before (this was also part of the reason why I waited so long, I wanted to see whether anyone else would be willing to take responsibility for a mislynch) 13th - he seems rather inconsistent overall, quality wise, which still worries me... couple that with his general D1 behaviour and the fact that Persuader can be town or mafia Kay - could probably go down a bit if she just posted more... most of what she said was decent, but nothing exceptional and her final D1 vote seemed a bit pointless Rein - mostly the same as Kay... it's really just the overall feeling I get from him that makes me put him here eclipse - you're still giving me a strange feeling... most of your posts are good, but overall I feel like you're hiding something... Snike - Bizz did pretty well as I noted before, Snike on the other hand seems to focus a lot on a handful of people without really considering the rest Irie - lack of activity and what she said didn't convince me too much JB - not much to say.. overall consistent, the only compaint I really have is him not considering enough possibilities (or at least that's how I feel)... I guess I could have put him at 6 instead, he sheeped a little iirc Nightmare - decent contributions and hasn't done anything that makes me suspicious from what I recall Strawman - see Nightmare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 That typo was intentional. Shame on you. (in other words, thanks, but why the heck did you disappear from the topic?) And naturally, I'm hiding my role name and vent name~! Tee-hee~! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoz Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 That typo was intentional. Shame on you. It wasn't actually, my apologies for that. (in other words, thanks, but why the heck did you disappear from the topic?) No clue. And naturally, I'm hiding my role name and vent name~! Tee-hee~! Is that really all there is to it? I wonder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 eclipse - you're still giving me a strange feeling... most of your posts are good, but overall I feel like you're hiding something... That's what I've been feeling too, but I've been keeping diplomatic about it. Until now. Thanks for your contributions, by the way. Good read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Fastest way to find out is if I end up a dead person. Given what I've seen, this might be sooner than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 OK I suppose I might as well post my own thoughts. Rein - where in the fuck Me - I'm starting school in 2 days, so activity level will probably drop further then. Aside from that though, town because my role PM says so =D Eclipse - I... don't know. I'm aware this sounds like what Nightmare and Kaoz have said, but I'm rather uneasy with her. Then again, I haven't played very much with Clipse so I can't read her very well. Core - Solid opinion is a no, not looking very good because of the Blitz lynch and things I can't be bothered to find now. Snike - With his theory about the 3 mafia falling apart, it's worth considering that he himself could be mafia, coming up with that magnificent ploy. I didn't like his logic on HASHTAG/NO HASHTAG, and it'll be interesting to see what he says now. Kaoz - Helpful, seems pretty pro-town. Nightmare - I don't know very much. I don't think he's posted his own opinions for some time, so yeah. Kay - WHERE ARE YOU Iris - wry you so busy =( Strawman - Pretty much same as Kaoz 13th - I don't even know any more, though lynching him on Day 3 or devoting more time to him would be a waste. Sho - I don't think he'd have been as unlucky as to exactly claim Rapier's role (Independent BP), so I'm kind of inclined to believe his claim now. Given the fact that Ryuuki is almost certainly town, and having 2 survivors hunt down 2 townies is unrealistic or really bad balance, it's probably in his best interest to help the town now. I'm fine with doing some probing in the direction of Core and Kay/Iris on Day 3, if only because it could get the two of them to talk more, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 and my badge changed back to boyd =( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 My opinions will have to wait, I need to analyse more carefully. For the time, I'd really like to probe/pressure a couple of people (as I stated before). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I think that we can stop this whole 'is 13th town or mafia' shenanigans with a simple inspection. So cop, whoever you are, check 13th today. Because we all know the vigilante, should he exist, is going to shoot the 'obvious maf', IE, me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoz Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 If not, I would like to ask Snike to give his opinions on everyone, as iirc he hasn't done so yet (if he did and I don't remember it, my apologies). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 DAMMIT. WHAT DID WE CONCLUDE ABOUT THE VIG EXISTING? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 DAMMIT. WHAT DID WE CONCLUDE ABOUT THE VIG EXISTING? We haven't concluded anything, after one night. You, on the other hand, might've concluded something. My comments are coming, take a pill Kaoz. >__> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Numbers, which you may or may not have caught. While it is possible that there's a vig, the fact that whoever it is didn't shoot 13th through the face after his N1 performance says something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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