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@Prims- it's not that I got lazy after I got cleared exactly, I just kind of ran out of people to push and got demotivated because of that, which happens even when I'm not clear. I thought both you and Vhaltz were scum on D1/D2 but couldn't really formulate my gut very much, which made it really easy for you and Vhaltz to brush my cases aside and make me think I was wrong. And then by D2 I was (correctly) confident about most of the rest of the game not being scum, which caused me to kind of run out of steam and just go for the lurker lynch. On D3 I felt the least confident about my Cam townread so I started pushing that. By D4 with less people playing and Shin having subbed in I was more confident that you/Vhaltz were scum again (I think I said so to Blitz and the mods the night before) but still didn't have a real case on either of you other than PoE I guess. Then during that day I tried to make it so that you would be tempted to fish for the Doc with your NK by not pushing you that hard, but I guess I didn't do it well enough (and actually was lazy during the night, when I should have tried way harder to convince Blitz that you were scum). The main problem is that as people have become better at playing scum (and this was a good scumteam too, players wise) I've had to rely on my gut and PoE more and more to get them, and the former is not that convincing even to myself and the latter makes me become demotivated too easily.

DROGBA He'll probably just be a sub but still, that's pretty cool

dead, or am I...? I was town; I had no way to kill you... or did I...? dead, or am I...?

dead mine are that he must have been more pro-town than you in Trainwreck dead

It's your choice. The gaiden characters are not, on the whole, all that good, so

lmao who told you that

yeah it doesn't seem to be working for the murricans and the brits get rekt

Votals Darros (4): CT075, Belisarius, Bearclaw, PKLucas Randa (3): kirsche, Darros, FFM SB (1): Blitz Belisarius (1): GP FFM (1): SB Not Voting (4): Koneko, Randa, Ace, Kinumi With 14 alive, it takes 8 to hammer. You have 21 hours and 45 minutes left in the day.

I picked Revolutionary because I like Shadoweh's motk sig my mafia playing style is revolutionary.

I'm going to offer some general advice. Remember, most people have no information to start the game other than your own role PM. To make up for this, they are going to comb through your posts, as they will comb through everybody's posts. They might be wrong, you might be wrong, but if nobody tries to make some educated guesswork, town will never win. You have to put yourself in other people's shoes and try to determine what their intent is. The most important thing is to not take anything personally and have fun. If you're not having fun then maybe mafia isn't the game for you. By nature it can get a little heated.

"if you drink alcohol you fail"

VOTALS Randa (4): kirsche, SB, Darros, Poly Darros (3): CT075, Belisarius, Bearclaw Koneko (1): Kinumi PKLucas (1): FFM SB (1): Randa Ace (1): GP Kinumi (1): PKLucas Not Voting (2): Koneko, Ace There are 60 hours left in the phase.

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That's not a glitch. Every turn, every pairing gets a set amount of love points even if they haven't been standing next to each other. Standing next to each other provides an additional 5 points and makes it faster.

you know Kaoz if you joined I bet it would fill instantly

It's your choice but like... if you talk yourself out of joining a game as simple as this one you'll probably never join anything other than EiMM, unless you're super busy now and anticipate on being free later. #mytwocents

The Mage is a Hijacker (forces Player A to target Player B) fwiw this is probably the most newbie friendly game that's going to run in a long time so the people who've been sitting on the sidelines for the last few games while playing EiMM should totally join.

Norway for Euro 2016

obligatory Shin stop bonking Boron I don't think that there's a fulltime cult, but I haven't 100% ruled out the possibility of a cult with only one recruit (other than the Via one) to match the 1-kill SK. Prims, you stepped around me saying that you make the most sense as buddies with Vhaltz without actually saying who you think is buddies with Vhaltz. If you think it's Vhaltz + Proto/Shin then is it really that big a deal if the one of Proto/Shin that's clear claims now? Regardless I think that we're just going over the same stuff over and over at this point. Not sure it's going to progress more without Vhaltz flipping.

Cam only had one kill + the PGO, did you guys read his role PM? If the logic we're going to employ is that the person out of ProtoShin who isn't responsible for the no-kill is scum by PoE (assuming Vhaltz flips scum) then I don't really see the point of waiting for Vhaltz to flip. eg if Shin is clear then we can see if Proto/Vhaltz is a plausible scumteam, and if not then maybe we need to rethink our PoE somewhere. also fwiw I'm fairly sure that Blitz wasn't culted on the first night based on a semi-reaction test I pulled in private.

or at least, I think it's water

lame I'm covered in water now according to my role PM I don't think Shin is scum when I compare his play to Doomsday, and I feel like his role is town.

good point I guess

sheeping the part of Prims's case that isn't sheeping my D2 case ##Vote: Vhaltz tbh from PoE I feel like the scumteam is Vhaltz and either Prims or Proto. Proto has the Weapons interactions going for him and Prims has like everything else, but I don't feel like Prims has done anything legitimately townie other than play decently. His Vhaltz case is good but like... from what he's said there's no buddy for Vhaltz to have. Not me or Blitz, it doesn't seem like he's suspicious of Refa, Shin, or Proto atm, and he thinks that Vhaltz/Poly don't make sense as buddies (which I agree with). My gut is that he's planning on bussing Vhaltz today to ride the towncred to LYLO, mislynching Proto and Shin along the way (he'll probably flip on them in this scenario).