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Sigh... I'll make this my vote and tally. So Tentacool gets a 5.83.

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Includes a -2 penalty for PKL. Overall: PKL (340) CR-S01 (324) Quintessence (305) Nano (300) Vicious Sal (104) Waiting on CR for 3-4 now.

"It gives us a slightly better chance at guessing correctly tomorrow, but that's it. We have to risk a mislynch at some point, whether it's this phase or the next day." What I meant there was that while we have a slightly better chance at guessing correctly, our chances won't be better by enough for it to make much of a difference.

We only get my vigshot for N6 if we lynch correctly tomorrow, even if we nolynch today.

What is a nolynch going to get us at this point? If we're in MYLO right now, it puts us in LYLO tomorrow, with nothing other than another dead townie. It gives us a slightly better chance at guessing correctly tomorrow, but that's it. We have to risk a mislynch at some point, whether it's this phase or the next day. I am against nolynching, but if we're going to do it, where is everybody going? It's vitally important that people are split up properly so that the death gets as much info as possible. Also, guys, consider that the mafia has a protection pierce, because the Poketrio should have been immune to one attempted kill. I don't know if this pierce is a permanent role or a one-shot thing, but putting me, Core, and Person3 on a stage does not automatically mean Core is scum if I die even though he was on me.

##Vote: Serious Bananas

Shinori, think about it. You said yourself, we had two cops. Two cops means that there is less likely to be a third investigative role, not that there is less likely to be any protective role of any kind. The poketrio also has only one shot, which they can use only when they're all gathered. If any of them had been killed earlier, there would never have been someone town-sided other than me with a killing ability. And consider that in some ways, I am actually weaker than a normal vig who can only kill every other day. Sure, laying down a mine makes it so that I can kill cross-stage and therefore I was able to hide my role from the mafia for a slightly longer amount of time, but it also requires me to predict what stage scum will be on. Consider that if the last Day's plan to put all the obvtown players on one stage had worked, my mine would have had a 0% chance of killing scum. Also, maybe bringing in ongoing games isn't entirely valid, but Iris is and was being a lot more active in MoMM than she is or has been here. It makes me think that she's lurkscum here. I'm calling the scumteam as SB/Iris/Manix at the moment. Manix because something feels off about him for me, but that last spot could be Eclipse too.

@Shinori- If we're in MYLO, and my bomb goes off randomly and takes out a townie, we lose, assuming a successful mafia nightkill. It's much safer that I go to Castle Siege, especially if we end up nolynching today. BTW, another reason why I think SB is scummier than Prims/Core is because of how hard Prims went after Scorri, who's confirmed scum. The reason I shot her in the first place was because of some of the scummy stuff Prims pointed out that I hadn't noticed. It's possible that Prims bussed her, but I still can't believe that we don't have a Doctor. And even if we didn't have a Doctor, can you imagine any mafia who would dare Tailor someone into a Doctor, one of the most common roles in mafia? Who would assume, in a 19-player game with a SK, that there's no Doctor?

What the hell, why did you edit your post Core? Also, I'm going to Castle Siege so that Brinstar doesn't set my mine off early and kill someone randomly.

God damnit, multi hit moves are OP as fuck in PMD. A Beedrill took me down with one Fury Attack when I was at full health in Silent Chasm B9F. ?5??P PRSmale6??? female!4?6 ?W??? ?M43+?F? ?HRP? ??0?K 67??7Q?? ROJN? If that's not right, someone tell me. "male" refers to the male gender sign, and "female" refers to the female gender sign. Honestly, I could restart the dungeon and redo it in the time that it'll take someone to rescue me, but hey, this was what this was all supposed to be about, right? Us bailing each other out?

2 votes in two days? Whaaaaaat? Come on guys! We're not getting to the cool kids until we humour these crappy pokemon!

Yeah, Nano, send me the rest of what you have. I have only up to 3-8, which is what SB gave me when I started doing the scorekeeping. I don't think you've directly sent me anything yet.

So I can basically only kill every other night at most. Actions: Night 1: planted mine on Castle Siege Night 2: blew up Scorri Night 3: planted mine on Battleship Halberd Night 4: blew up Elieson The reason I pushed for the scummier people to be on Halberd N4 was so that I'd have a better chance at shooting scum. I didn't want to push too hard and make it too obvious to the mafia that I was the Vig, even though they probably already knew because I softclaimed it pretty hard, at least until I got my second mine off. BTW, the bit about asking Iris not to use her role on me was because on the night that my role would have been swapped with Elieson, I had to lay down a mine and therefore target the stage, while Elieson had to target a character. So it wouldn't really have worked out. The line in my role PM which says that other things might set it off earlier make me not want to go to Brinstar.

Waiting on PKL for 3-3. CR has up to 3-3 sent in, Quint has up to 3-6 sent in, an Nano has up to 3-8 sent in.

That's the part about his report that I'm not quite sure how he might have been able to fabricate. Him and Strawman would have to be scumbuddies, but if they are then they might as well just have omitted that part out. It's still possible that Strawman might be scum, and he used his role on Subi N1 for town cred. However, if both SB and Core were town, Core would have to explain why he visited two people last night, one of whom died.

I really liked the Liz x Vake A support, but I felt that the S support could have been a bit more focused on them.

I can confirm that I killed Elieson (and Scorri earlier), but even then, that does not clear SB because if Manix is scum they would have already known that I was the vigilante, and been able to fabricate that part of the report without actually having watched Elieson. As for why I killed Elieson: To begin with, I was about 70% sure he was scum. This turned out to be wrong, but my thought process was that one of the people on Halberd had to be scum, because there was simply no way otherwise that the mafia would allow themselves to partitioned off in groups of one and two when they had lost their ability to kill across stages. The game would pretty much have been over for them. At the very least, more people would have argued against setting up the system as it was, because they wouldn't have had anything to lose anyways. And what I thought was that even if Elieson wasn't scum, as the scummiest looking person, if he was eliminated in the night, the town could narrow down the actual scum on the stage even further. I also did not expect that the entire Poketrio might die and leave us in MYLO if my shot ended up taking out a townie. TBH, I honestly do not know which of Core and SB is our scum.

BTW would we be informed if were in MYLO/LYLO?

Ugh... Hmm... I really really hope that we have a Doc, so I'm going to believe that Prims/Core is town. Strawman... eh... he targeted Subi, a person we know to be town, N1, but that could have been a ruse to make us think he was town. They might have rolecopped her and decided that her role was weak enough that they could allow it to be used twice if it meant that Strawman got town cred. And honestly... if we remove his role, how townie has Strawman really looked? He hasn't looked scummy, but at least my reads on him have been based on how he used his role, not his contribution to the town. SB might also be scum... I've got to run or I'd check his reports to see how many of them could have been faked by a mafia cop. Considering that we effectively had two rolecops, it's entirely possible that we have no other investigative roles.

Your choice. If you got Charm first time, just rig for that again.

Well, it's not really a challenge as in you get anything if you win. I talked about things like Mail generators for good items like X-Ray Glasses bit with Konnor on IP Chat, and honestly, if people want to do things like that, they can do them. It's just not as fun. On a side note, I'm a brave Machop like Jedi, and my partner is Shin the Treecko. Our team is named Team Meteor! I got wiped out in Thunderwave Cave because of stupid paralysis, but other than that, I beat Skarmory.

Hey guys! Who wants to play through PMD Red/Blue? We can all bail each other out, but the person who dies the least amount of times at the end wins! As an extra challenge, the personality test must be done blind! I put up a poll to see if we get 3 chances or only one. Signups: BBM - Team Meteor (BBM the Machop and Shin the Treecko) Jedi - Team Justice (Jedi the Machop and Rubble the Mudkip) Shin - Team RAGESLEEP (Shin the Treecko and Horace the Charmander) Shadowbreeze - Team ShdwBreeze (Kanbei the Meowth and Hanbei the Bulbasaur) Dandragon SB PKL Konnor - Team Steamboat (Konnor the Charmander and Johnny the Mudkip) Manix - (Manix the Meowth and Bizz the Squirtle)

That was pretty nicely done on your part, PKL. Sacrificing your TC was made up by your high EXP, and then you also had enough time to get a lot more items.

PKL (340) CR-S01 (312) Quintessence (293) Nano (288) Vicious Sal (104)