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I pick fights with your lack of logic and get frustrated when you continue to post wrong information. Rather than you block us, just don't post. Go to the Steelers' forum and post there instead. EDIT: I mentioned draft picks to show you how a lot of top prospect QBs don't make it, never mind the bottom feeders. They are examples of failed players. Cam is not a failed player but he's nowhere near great and he won't ever be great. He'll be adequate as a starting QB and between 2000 and 2015, I would have killed for him to start in Buffalo (that's how bad our QB pool has been since Flutie). But he's not great and this is the best that he can do.

Jesus Christ, you don't listen to reason. You literally picked the top 4 QBs in the league and said that they're examples. How about examples of those who DON'T make it? I've got tons of those. Just look at Buffalo's QBs since Jim Kelly. Here are the ones that the Bills actually drafted. Todd Collins JP Losman (22nd overall) Trent Edwards EJ Manuel (16th overall) That's 4 picks for a single team over a 20 year span including 2 first rounders. They all failed. And I'm just looking at the Bills. Remember Ryan Leaf (who)? How about JaMarcus Russell? Leaf went second overall (1st overall was Peyton Manning that draft). Russell was first overall. Your argument is bad because you singled out the four best QBs over the past 15 years and said "well, they did it, therefore Cam Newton can". Alex Smith was a 1st overall pick. Tim Couch was a 1st overall pick. Hell, David Carr was a 1st overall pick. It means nothing. EDIT: You know what David Carr has that Cam Newton doesn't? A Super Bowl ring.

Forgot Manning started in '98 and not 2000. Still proves my point for the most part. And Jim Mora was fired over defense, not offense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oSFYxDGKy8

Tom Brady's first four seasons: 11-5 (replacing Drew Bledsoe in Game 2), 9-7, 14-2, 14-2. Ben Roethlisburger's first four seasons: 15-1 (replacing Tommy Maddox in Game 4), 11-5, 8-8, 10-6. Peyton Manning's first four seasons: 10-6, 6-10, 10-6, 12-4. Aaron Rodgers' first four seasons: 6-10, 11-5, 10-6, 15-1. There are 2 sub .500 seasons here in the four QBs you mentioned. Which is less than 75% of Cam Newton's career. But facts don't matter when your opinion clearly trumps it, right? EDIT: Also, 2013 is the far past. In 2013, the Bills had a different owner, different staff (aside from God Manager Doug Whaley) and a completely different offense then 2015. They also went 6-10. Is that indicative of what's going to happen this season? Long story short, you're wrong and your opinion is wrong. As proved by facts.

Panthers were 7-8-1 last year. Stop dwelling on the far past and understand that they made the playoffs with a sub .500 record. They are a mediocre team with a bunch of wins under their belt. You want another team who's record is better than what they really are? NYJ. EDIT: Since Newton was drafted, Carolina has had 1 out of 4 seasons where they were over even 7 wins. 6-10, 7-9, 12-4, 7-8-1. Please go on telling me about how Newton hasn't hit his ceiling yet.

We're not twelve years old anymore. Cam Newton has hit his ceiling. This is the best he will ever be in his career. What, is Luke McCown suddenly going to become the best QB ever because he "puts his mind to it and works hard"? No. Same with Newton. If Newton proves otherwise and actually progresses skill-wise, I'll eat some crow. But he helms a 8-8 team at best and that's the best he can do.

You know that you can talk via PM also? IRC isn't required but those without it are probably at a disadvantage. Also, I just need 4 more people. To anyone who has never tried OC, give it a shot. This game will be fun.

Newton's hit his ceiling. He can't get better.

He was insulting you. AT RISK FROM BEING AUTO-BANNED BY OUR RULER AND SAVIOUR DECEIT (the local mod), I SHALL NOT COMMENT ON YOUR COMMENTARY SKILLS.

That's sarcasm.

Doesn't even compare. Forget seeing playoffs, I still don't know what having a relevant game in December feels like.

How the hell am I struggling for ten people to sign-up?

Three days and only four sign-ups? C'mon, guys.

How to beat the Bills defense: Be Tom Brady. Seriously, even Andrew Luck couldn't throw on us (but currently, he can't throw on any decent defense). That Giant OL isn't the best they've ever put together and Bacarri Rambo's still starting for Aaron Williams. LBs are so solid (Preston Brown and Nigel Bradham may not make Pro Bowl but they just play well), Darby has been excellent considering that he wasn't supposed to start (thank God for Leodis McKelvin going down injured before the season) and the DL is pretty much always facing 6 on the line with the TE blocking. How to beat the Bills offense: Blitz every play and get the Bills to pull bullshit penalties (like that PI on Sammy against the Pats) I can't find a weakness to this Bills offense aside from constant pressure each day but then Greg Roman will switch to the checkdown system to Harvin/McCoy/Clay/Woods and they'll burn people in open space. Take away the air game? Ok, Karlos and Lesean say hi. Stuff the box? Sammy, Percy, Robert Woods, Charles Clay, Chris Hogan, Marquis Goodwin, Chris Gragg... so many weapons at the receiver and TE spot. Clay and Percy look excellent for being new in Buffalo, Sammy is directing double teams giving other receivers mismatches and Robert Woods is just solid. Long story short, this Bills team is excellent and I'm excited that we started 2-1. 11-5 may be a real possibility this season along with a playoff slot.

Sorry for the delay, Integrity slapped me with a 24 hour suspension over putting someone in their place.Both nights and days are 36 hours long. Enough time for conversation and short enough to keep the game moving. If I get caught during a work shift, I'll let you all know and expect a delay of up to 8 hours. Game will start once ten people have signed up.

The fuck is wrong with you, woman? Do you know Cam Newton personally? It's one thing to like a football player; it's another to treat them as a living god. Seriously, shut the fuck up right now so that you can stop embarrassing yourself. The "ref who have to lie to protect his job" is Ed Hochuli. He's been officiating games since before Cam Newton was born (seriously, Hochuli started officiating in '90 while Newton was born in '89). I'm pretty sure that Hochuli knows exactly what the fuck he is talking about when he said that Cam Newton didn't deserve that call because he was running and not sliding. I have issues with the refs too. Like the ref from Buffalo/NE game working for the company that was contracted to build Gillette Stadium, bringing up a major conflict of interest. But what you just said is beyond stupid. So stop. Please. Just shut up next time you decide to run your mouth about shit you have no clue about.

Mekupelet. It's Israeli. And amazing.

Being the resident Bills expert, I've looked at the schedule multiple times and here are the games that scare me. Week 6 vs. Bengals Week 11 @ Patriots Week 12 @ Chiefs Week 13 vs. Texans Week 16 vs. Cowboys I think that the Bills can pull out 2 wins there and if we do, that's 12-4. But those are some tough games. In addition, we were lucky to get out of week 3 at 2-1 because the Colts and the Dolphins should have played much better.

Looking for more sign-ups, guys.

Bills squished the fish and start 2-1 with a hard first three games. I predict walking into the bye at 6-1.

Like I pointed out, bad balance if it's real.This game doesn't even deserve to be an abortion; rather a blowjob or straight into a condom.

Yep, I'm totally down for subbing out of this shitty game. Terrible players, pretty bad balance (from what I've seen) and a dictator for a mod who threatened to sub me out because he doesn't like my playstyle. I'm not going to continue this farce of enjoying this game. Too annoying.

Might be a week late but... please don't do this. I like staying warnless AND making people cry.

I'm currently on a train northbound. Boredom.

The bus bounces across the gravel as Marcus hums a little tune. You look out the window as the scenary races past. Welcome to Pandora. These are the sign-ups for Mafialands, a ten player OC Mafia game. Players will be chosen by random from the sign-up list. Please do not sign-up if you may not be completely active. General rules (not complete): Technical rules will be revealed when the game starts. The game will start within 24 hours of FE Mafia ending. Sign-up list: The3rdCorinthian Executive kirsche Refa Paperblade Baldo Scroll BBM ClarinetsandOboes TheAssasinMercenary Polydueces Mitsuki