Flee Fleet!
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Just now, Magnificence Incarnate said:
we also wait and hear what you have to say
Not really much to say. Tuvy's pretty much the most sus person right now. Except maybe Corro who hasn't responded since forever but oh well.
1 minute ago, Magnificence Incarnate said:We could also consider spamming to fill the 30 page d1 quota.
How about MHA meme spam -
Sooooooooooooooo
do we wait now or what?
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5 minutes ago, Killthestory said:
it's... it's free flights isnt it
the peoples champion i thought, but all along he was with the elite. a sacrilegous humphrey, a devil spawn in wise eyes. hes been fooling me this entire time. that screenshot he showed me was fake
it all makes sense. it all makes might
##vote Free Flights
Interesting information. I think I have to agree with you here, however I'd like to hear Free Flights thought process on what you just said.
So I'm gonna keep my vote on Tuvy for now.
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1 minute ago, Killthestory said:
im all might
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5 minutes ago, Mackc2 said:
Be careful with that, I have lost far too many walls because I refreshed mid wall, I recommend keeping the thread open in a separate tab
Thankfully the editor keeps the post saved most of the time, but I'll keep what you said in mind.
6 minutes ago, Vi-astra said:YOURE GOOD MY DUDE I realize I'm less active than usual and that's entirely just because my work schedule is balls this week combined with unfortunate ill circumstances but I'm not sittin this out don't worry
Hopefully you will be fine IRL and manage to stay in the game. Good luck!
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Ugh just when I post and there's already multiple new posts. I should always refresh before I post here, sigh.
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Since 6 hours are left, I'm just going to vote Tuvy. I originally was going to vote Corro but there's the chance he gives an explanation. Meanwhile the Tuvys just seem uninterested to talk.
##Vote: Tuvy
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4 hours ago, Mackc2 said:
I really just see Fleet as having no clue what they are doing, but @Flee Fleet! what do you mean by lay low?
I guess you're spot on about me not having any clue, haha. By laying low..well, its a bit hard to explain but what I mean is that I don't want to be too active in a discussion, since I don't have much knowledge to being with, until more stuff happens.
But I guess its too late for that now, and I sort of realized trying to stay less active would be a disadvantage.
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3 minutes ago, Athena_57 said:
Thanks, and no worries, just trying to get a feel for how you're trying to evaluate people, doesn't need to be very detailed.
I see then.
Also, gonna go offline shorty soon, so see ya all later in the morning.
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2 minutes ago, Athena_57 said:
Can you try to put into words why you feel so? Is it for example the tone / logic /effort or something else entirely
I guess its the tone. I just don't feel like they're scum.
I'm sorry that its hard to explain, English isn't my first language so that can sometimes cause a problem, haha.
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13 minutes ago, Athena_57 said:
Wow, rude! Maybe you're right, I'll check out Michelaar, but to me Fleet reminds me more of my brother back then. IIRC he had this super awkward entrance of "Can you unvote me" and "I don't think anyone is really scummy", which resembles Fleet more than Corrobin
Haha, I guess that's sort of nice to know.
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Just now, Athena_57 said:
Fleet, can you talk to me about why you're townreading Refa?
Well, they just don't seem scum to me...that's pretty much the reason, as well as for most of the other people I've townread.
Whatever they've said so far just doesn't seem like scum to me.
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1 hour ago, fairyjigglypuff said:
@Flee Fleet! i realize that i come off as really rude here so i wanna clarify that this wasnt my intention. i'd request a post delete from @SB. but yea
Ah, that's okay! No hard feelings.
1 hour ago, Refa said:Friendly advice: Even if you can't get a full read off of it, just quote anything that you're not sure is honest and explain why that is. Even if it doesn't lead to a scumread, it shows your thought process which will make you easier to read on future days.
Ah, I understand then. Thanks for the advice. Currently its late where I live, so I'll try to see if I can find and quote anything that I find suspicious tomorrow, hopefully before the timer runs out.
1 hour ago, Refa said:Fair enough. It's suspicious because he only unvoted after he got a lot of flak for his initial vote, but didn't provide the reasoning at all.
Actually I just now read Corrobin's second post in this thread (can be found in page 2) where his reason for voting Shinori was that they were "Wisdom of the crowds, mostly" (which I dunno what that means)
Then he later retracted his vote due to "misreading" which he never fully explained.
I still find him suspicious of course, since its likely he unvoted due to all the flak he got, but just wanted to notify you all that he did provide a reason for why he voted.
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7 minutes ago, Refa said:
Wait, why are you townreading me ugh this sucks.
A-ah, sorry!
7 minutes ago, Refa said:Look man, if you're town, please give me something to work with here. FMPOV, you're making posts consistently enough to have a presence but not really influencing the game in any significant manner which bothers me. I don't know how else I can improve my read on you.
I'll agree that I'm not really making any significant influence, but I don't really know how to either... I'm kind of just trying to lay low for the first few days.
Sorry that this does make it harder for you to read me. I guess all I have to say is that none of us should be suspecting Corrobin for now until he gives us a clarification for his reasons for voting Shinori.
Though I guess I'll probably vote him even if he hasn't given an explanation when there's like, 3 or 4 hours left before day 1 ends, since I don't find anyone else super suspicious.
3 minutes ago, Refa said:I think it's actually pretty bad how he claims he misread but didn't actually state what that was...
Yeah I guess it is pretty suspicious. Its totally possible he came up with a quick short reason to justify why he voted Shino and then unvoted so he wouldn't appear scum. But, as said before, I'll wait until he gives a reply.
4 minutes ago, fairyjigglypuff said:but isnt this literally a slip/chainsaw defense if i've ever seen one? i don't understand why that point was the one point that flee fleet had to respond in my v e r y long post.
I responded specifically to that point mainly because the rest wasn't really directed at me and I talked about Corro before.
And all I'm saying is that we should wait for Corro to respond before we vote him or something. Same with Mackc2 (if anyone decides to vote them for whatever reason) since they haven't post much on here either.
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2 minutes ago, fairyjigglypuff said:
why didn't you lynch corrobin when you questioned their behavior? was that not scummy enough for a vote, even now, when they haven't reacted or done much to defend themselves and have basically just retreated into a hole? (ok tbh i have no reason why you guys have let corrobin go - they've failed to explain themselves to any capacity and have basically just peaced out like???)
To be fair they might be busy with IRL, like how Mackc2 is/was. I'm just going to wait for his explanation (given that he hopefully arrives before the time limit ends)
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11 minutes ago, Refa said:
I don't know how to convey my thoughts in words, but it feels like you're deliberately avoiding giving any but the safest opinions which reads as scum to me.
Yeah, I can understand that point. I guess its a general tactic for many scum to give the safest points. Or at least that's how it is most of the time in Town of Salem, haha.
But I honestly have mostly neutral opinions of everyone. I guess that'll change once the game gets going with all the kills that will come.
11 minutes ago, Refa said:When did this happen? I don't remember this. I'll be so mad if Marthlette were right about Corrobin and I didn't catch it because I missed out on a few posts.
I think he unvoted in his third post and gave his reasons (which were really minimally). It's probably on page 4, iirc.
11 minutes ago, Refa said:Also why does unvoting after he got flak for his initial vote seem better for you?
The fact that he said he misread something and hence voted makes me think it was just a mistake on his part (he could be bluffing too I guess but not sure), so I'm just kind of waiting for an explanation for his action once he comes online, and hence I'm not voting him for now.
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5 hours ago, weinerboy said:
@Flee Fleet! I understand your knowledge of the game is very little, but if you had to choose someone to be wrong about in terms of a townread who would it be and why?
Well...if I have to be honest, even after hours I still don't really find anyone to be wrong in terms of townreading.
I guess I'm not looking into things hard enough, but I will say for now that I don't think Via, Refa, Athena, and maaaybe Magnificence to not be scum. Mackc2 also doesn't seem to be scum but like I said before, he's only made 2 posts so I can't make a judgement on him right now.
3 minutes ago, Refa said:No, it's not unfair and you're being dumb. They both did subpar play (and FF's has more scum benefit, because not voting as a newbie gets you way less flak than voting does), and Corobbin was plastered for it whereas FF got no flak at all. Also read this post, because that's the whole reason I even thought about voting FF.
I guess that's understandable. It does seem more logical for a newbie to not go off voting (either for reasons like mine or other reasons) than to vote someone right off the bat to not look suspicious or hasty.
I also haven't really found anyone super suspiciously scum (except for Corrobin initially but he's only posted three times here so I can't really assume his role) to vote anyways so there's that too.
9 minutes ago, Refa said:I have no read on Mackc2, but wasn't he supposed to be busy for the first 24 hours?
Yeah I do remember him saying he was busy. Hopefully he'll be online soon enough.
1 hour ago, Tuvy said:##Vote Refa
Too confident.
That seems like a really dumb reason imo.
2 hours ago, Tuvy2 said:##vote KillTheStory
Why?
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1 hour ago, Athena_57 said:
Even if you can't find anything scummy, do you have townreads / people who's arguments make sense to you?
Not really, but I guess I find you, Magnificence and Via to not really be scum from what you three have posted so far.
And Mackc2 doesn't really appear Townie nor scum to me because, well, he's only really made two posts here so far so I can't make a judgement on him.
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Although he hasn't explained what he misread earlier nor why he initially voted Shinori, so hopefully he'll explain once he's online.
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Forgot to mention that Corro later unvoted, so that's another reason why I'm not voting him for now.
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I see, I get it now. I just figured lynching day one seemed hasty but I guess not.
I guess I'll try, so far my opinion on things has been neutral.
5 hours ago, weinerboy said:I think Flight Fleet even for a newbie had a strange response to everything going on, one that warrants pressure imo. Fleet feels like he had a guilty conscience but didn't know what to do about it therefore he created open dialogue about votes being bad, but that alone is why I didn't like his pop-in cause it attributes to nervousness. I've been seeing a lot of people waffle of newbies thus far and I've been sorta biting my tongue about it but you essentially give them reason to pull the newbie card if you don't decide how you feel about 'em. Other newbie still waiting on his response
I stated votes being bad because I felt we were being too hasty on doing so on day one, since we don't exactly have much info besides for what people have posted so far. Of course, I realized that it was necessary to do when people explained to me of the advantages of lynching day one and how not doing so will keep us information-less on day 2.
5 hours ago, Refa said:Also good vote. I'm more interested in peoples' reactions to Fire Flight. Felt like people were being very helpful towards him, even though they didn't offer the same courtesy to Corrobin? Weird inconsistency there.
Thing is though that Corro's first post was voting Shinori without giving a proper reason. My first post (well technically second) was how I felt we shouldn't vote day one. Like others have said, its not really a fair comparison.
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So I haven't really found anyone to be scummy or anything. Like I said before in this post, my opinions on everyone so far have been neutral. I kind of suspect Corro but all he did was do a vote and then leave, which I don't think is enough to vote him for now.
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2 minutes ago, Athena_57 said:
Often you end up lynching town, but at the very least you get rid of someone who was most likely going to get lynched at some point anyway. Plus, you can look at who pushed for the lynch, how likely it is they actually believed they were pushing scum, etc and get info from it.
And sometimes you actually get scum, which yields a ton of info, plus a dead scum.
If you don't lynch day 1, you're stuck in the same position day 2 without any additional info, except a townie died at night.
Ah, I see.
Well, I guess I'll see how the discussion turns out for now and then decide my vote.
3 minutes ago, Athena_57 said:In any case, how's the catchup coming along?
Pretty much done, although I was kind of occupied with other work so I may do some re-reading (mainly pages 5 and 6, I guess.)
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2 minutes ago, Vi-astra said:
so you'd rather have a no lynch on d1 and informationless on d2
I mean, I'm new to this so I dunno how useful lynching is on day 1.
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Voting on day one is uh
well it doesn't sound all that pleasing.
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