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Thanks for your help! ANd yeah, there were so many unpaired... :P

I'm pairing people based on both characters and kids stats but have a few stragglers... Right now I have: MUxAnna/Rhajat (haven't decided which yet) KazexMozu RyomaxKagero SaizoxBeruka (....)/Orochi SubakixSelena HayatoxNyx LeoxSakura/Felicia OdinxElise ArthurxEffie KeatonxCamilla That leaves: Azura Jakob Takumi Kaden Hinata Azama Xander Benny Laslow Niles Charlotte Felicia/Sakura Beruka/Orochi Oboro Setsuna Hana Hinoka Rinkah TOo many choices... o_o

"You die... now!"

My Rinkah is like the only character who can actually take 2 hits (actually she can take a lot of hits) before dying. >__>; She has like 35 Def when paired up and she's only level 20/5 or so. Her HP is less, but it doesn't matter when she's taking 0 damage from physical hits and single-digits from magic. @_o

Fixed. There is no other hard counter. (no pun intended) I second death peggies from above. It made me stop trying to use Olivia.

They don't seem to follow a pattern. First runthrough, the bottom wall housing the group of enemies fell when I got past it and flanked my back-liners. Second runthrough, I put all my strong units in front of it... and waited... and waited... and nothing. Then I moved on and the walls came down to let the dark knights flank my fragile units. (I guess it's my fault for not counting squares). Third runthrough, I went as fast as I could, wall fell soon after, letting them kill my fragile units. Fourth runthough, I got near the end, and was wondering why the walls didn't fall. Suddenly they fell all at once. (I think because I unlocked the door after waiting a couple of turns with nothing happening) Last time, I just gave up with bringing untrained units to level up and raped the chapter up the ass with my maxed out children of doom.

I can see a phallic reference in that name... >_>

CANNOT UNSEE Just moved down my hot-ness ranking for the guys.

I got the dual cut-in glitch with Severa hurling Hand Axes and activating Sol. o_o; She says the same line twice too.

Falchion or Steel Sword til he gets the Exalted Falchion for me... I'm just a cheapskate who doesn't want to buy expensive weapons, but since the game hands out weapons like candy, I equipped Silvers/Arcs/etc. for the last few chapters.

Growth rates seem to be higher in this game, so it's not too surprising. I've had a 0 stat level up before (although to be fair there was 1 maxed stat).

Missletainn. It can only be used by Owain and is worse than a vanilla Steel Sword. (aside from maybe a 1% skill proc)

I happen to think Orson is rugged and handsome. I mean, he worked for Renais' kingdom and as far as anyone knew, he was with Ephraim, so his story about escaping capture isn't too far-fetched.

Yes, it is a little confusing. I prefer to do it in battle if it's character to character. Usually I'm just taking stuff from undeployed units so it's fine as is in that case.

I felt that the final chapter was tough without grinding though. I had to drop my entire team and use the kids who ferried Lucina/Chrom/MU over to him and pray that every attack hit.

Fred Lonny Donny Not hard to guess who they are.

I don't know why I skipped over that... But yeah, that still gives characters 10+ extra levels, and it would give the characters who join earlier (and MU lol) even more of an advantage...

No Second Seal for reclassing, since that would arbitrarly give characters 10+ extra levels and more skills. If only it didn't reset levels and you had to pick certain level skills from class selections or something... :/ Although there could be a tier list taking that into consideration, but then it would have to take into account grinding, and then it would be basically who has the best supports/caps/class sets... but I digress. I have read the posts, anyone else have an opinion on Kellam/Panne/Say'ri?

Gregor's mine, git your grubby hands offa him! But yes, his Spd is kind of meh, but he's still decent since he has awesome HP/Str/Skl/Def, so he's pretty good on physicals. Too bad Sol only heals half damage... Also, fixed formatting.

ohai, it's Lord Raven :O Updated, with the Tharja/Nowi/Tiki/Gregor swap and the new tier. >_>

I'll just replace my list with eclipse's... >_> Thanks for the constructive post. For Nowi, I feel that the characters in this game lack in Def/Res so having a tank is a good thing. As for Libra, it's not like Lissa/Maribelle have any competition for healing, at least til Libra arrives. :P I can see your point about the others though. As for eclipse's list, I'd move Lissa (and maybe Maribelle) up just because they're there before Libra/Anna exist. Same reason for Nowi going above Tiki (at the very least). With Dragonstones being buyable, and there even being DS+, there isn't any reason for Nowi to ever run out even on a normal playthrough. Tharja might start out kind of average/mediocre, but she has extremely high growths in Mag/Spd/Def, making her one of the best units in the game IMO, since she targets enemies' usually lower defensive stat to boot. That said, Ricken (and maybe Henry) could move down because of their low Spd (Was my Henry the only one getting doubled on his premier chapter, and not exactly laughing off the damage?). Flavia and Basilio I find strange you would put here since they start out with awesome bases, even moreso on higher difficulties. The only thing is that their supports suck, and that they join late. It's like with Say'ri and Lon'qu, except they're probably better than their counterparts (well, not Basilio's Spd compared to Vaike's >_>)

thank you that was necessary

I've beaten the game on Hard without grinding anyone (except the kids). Sully has a 10% less HP/Str and 15% less Def growth than Stahl, in exchange for 10% Spd and 10% Res (and different bases of course). I guess it's not that big, but yeah... Nowi starts out fragile, but with a 65% Def growth and a 50% Res growth, along with +10/7 Def/Res makes her a nice tank after gaining a few levels. Ignoring how neither Sumia/Cordelia care about getting Galeforce if it means giving up on Lancefaire and Staves (seeing how both are terrible with tomes), I put Cordelia lower than Sumia for a couple reasons being that she joins later, and because despite having better HP/Def, she's still getting marred by arrows, although she does have a good Str growth. Libra is very useful as a staff user, but his stats aren't anything special. In a game where everyone has good growths, his are only average, and his bases aren't anything to write home about either. Once Lissa/Maribelle promote, they'll have better stats, and have access to tomes, which is just better than axes. I've used Donnel in HM, it was not fun, but it just took a couple units pinning off an archer and he finished it off a few times til he could hold his own. I guess you could argue those few turns could have been used to complete chapters a couple turns faster, but I'd argue it paid off having a unit not being raped by bosses later in the game... And yes, this is on Hard mode... Although I can move that sentence to the top.

I didn't use Vaike, at all. >_> Well, I tried, but the game just threw too many units at me and I had to pick and choose and cut. So I forgot about him. XD But if you want to make your own, go ahead... If there's reasons behind your placements and stuff I might replace mine. XD

Frederick is useful as a pairup unit for a good part of the game... As for Libra and Anna, you should already have Lissa or Maribelle for healing, and they don't have to resort to their low(er) Str to attack unlike the former... Anna is useful as a thief though... But if you feel anything should be changed, I would like more specifics about why and where they should be moved... >_> EDIT: okay, I'll change that...