Ice Sage
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10 minutes ago, Lightchao42 said:
For some reason we still don't know Inkling's Boxing Ring title, so if you don't mind can you find out what it is?
i'll check it out
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Since EVO is a few days away and @Jedi and I and a few others will be there any character you guys want us to try out? I'll try to get as much as i can
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13 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:
Nice to know Smash 5 plays well! Was there anything of a wait to play? I know they renovated the layout, how was it.
I've made pilgrimages to the Nintendo Center before, I was even there once or twice when it was the Pokemon Center and I might still have a picture of myself in front a giant Groudon statue. (I never went when Nintendo Power showed a real Pokemon Pinball machine for Ruby and Sapphire was in there I think- I wish I could see it in person just once.) I cherish every visit- I rarely buy anything there though. I'll be in New York tomorrow, but sadly I won't be in that area.
ah, nope. got to play right away! i love the new layout.picking stage first then character after is how they should do it from now on imo
matches went pretty fast. its too early to say, but like from what anti, zero and others said, 3 stocks sounds fine for ultimate.there were a lot of zelda's, cloud, ike and snake today. no ridley at all which surprised me.
i felt so much nostalgia when i was in the store.
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these are so adorable
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alright now that im back home
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it took a little to adjust to the game since there was input lag on the setup i played, but i love this game already.
the new parry is also amazing. makes me feel like im playing 3rd strike again. being able to punish your opponent, but it also being risky makes it that you better be sure you do it right.
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Played smash ultimate! Game felt smooth. I’ll summerize my thoughts when i get back home!
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9 minutes ago, Jedi said:
Lucky son of a gun.
i'll message you in the discord any difference in gameplay for ike and sonic!
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gonna be playing the game in a few hours since its in the nintendo store in new york. can't wait to try snake again
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so happy snake is back. going to be playing this alot like smash 4.
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4 hours ago, Gemma said:
Anyone interested in setting up a room on PS4 later today?
we'd be down to play like around 5-6 pm est since we're gonna be pretty busy until then
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Thank you @Snike for taking over for me. didn't have enough time these past days. I don't feel likke a good job trying to convince you guys i was town, but i was glas i was able to save shinori N2
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On 5/18/2018 at 4:11 PM, athena_57 said:
On that note, @Ice Sage, what do you think of my case on Bartozio? Please be specific on what you agree/disagree with.
Your case is good. I haven't seen him push much, if at all. He was arguing against you about the evan wagon, but it looked like he was pretty adamant on voting randa/rad so i don't know why he was going in like that to you.
On 5/18/2018 at 7:26 PM, Refa said:@Ice Sage Your position on my slot is unclear, earlier you said you were suspicious of me but then later on you said that cleared and I'm not sure why. Please explain.
You were defending yourself good. yes, you were demotivated at first, so not seeing you post much at the beginning of D2 had me a little suspicious, but that cleared away once you started explaining against Conqueror. you have your own reasons for switching your randa vote to evan. and it wouldn't change much since we were all scumreading him. Haven't seen the other games, but i don't think Scum!you would be doing this.
On 5/19/2018 at 7:21 AM, Conqueror said:@Ice Sage Can you explain what you find fine about Refa's explanations? I'm just wondering where you are right now since you've had only a few major suspicions every day and it's incredibly difficult to see what you're thinking or where you're going. It's nice that you're rereading but what are your preliminary thoughts?
I don't think scum!refa would be going this far on defending himself. like before he wasn't posting much, but seeing all this I think he's town. I also think now that RAD was found town, I can see why he is going far to not get mislynched.
Thoughts for now I'm with Athena on bart's case, and think Refa is town.
I have been playing nervously yeah. at least for the other days I didn't know if i was making the right moves on finding scum reads.
I think that's all. if i missed any other questions towards me please tell me.
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Sorry RL has been taking up a lot of my time. I'll get back asap
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6 minutes ago, athena_57 said:
Why? At first, Mack's vote there was scummy because it looked like he had a better case on Randa, yet voted Evan, which swinged the lynch to him and resulted in a mislynch. Now that we know Randa was town as well, please explain why it's still bad?
Also, please elaborate on your Refa read.
I'm fine with Refa after looking back at his posts. I was always unsure, but at least for now his explaining makes me feel comfortable on not lynching. When it comes to mack/elemina now I think i got it wrong. I'm really not sure anymore. i need to look at more info.
3 minutes ago, Eurykins said:Also @Ice Sage, where did last night phase take you? Seemed to disappear off the radar for some reason, were you not around much? Any new thoughts/reads?
Now that Rad was also town I honestly don't know on reads. I'm going back to reread.
Wasn't around much yeah.
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47 minutes ago, Conqueror said:
Look, I'm not asking you to agree with me about my approach or my opinions - I can be wrong! If you think I'm right about what I said about Refa/Elemina, then do your reads change because of that? That's what I want to know. Is joining the Evan wagon because he had more votes scummy now that we know both the D1 wagons were town?
Refa yes. I think Refa is fine now. Elemina I'm still weary though because of the flip. I think its scummy
44 minutes ago, Conqueror said:Also, @Ice Sage Did you end up sending in a vote via role pm? I noticed there should have been 9 votes on Rad but there were only 8 votes in the votecount. Votes in thread don't count. So was that you?
See you all in 16 hours.
Didn't send a vote via role pm. i made a mistake did not vote in pm
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16 hours ago, Bartozio said:
@Ice Sage What do you think of Elemina's posts? And did you think Macks reasoning for jumping on the Evan wagon looked bad? Did you think his reasoning for scumreading Randa seemed stronger?
What in particular looked wolfy about Evan's interaction with Via? What do you think scum him has to gain from it?
Elemina's post was good and gave a lot of questions. I think Mack's reasoning looks bad now after the flip. he had both views as scum but i think now he might've just join the wagon.
I thought it was wolfy that he would just go after via like that. I was thinking he was trying to get a negative response from via and start a battle right there.
14 hours ago, SB. said:@Ice Sage, I don't know why (if?) you suspect Refa here tbh? Do you think that their vote on Evan was bad (just because they flipped town)? Because townies can push on townies too and I'm not really getting why specifically.
Not suspecting Refa atm. I think refa's vote goes along with what he was posting. townies can yeah.
8 hours ago, Conqueror said:@Ice Sage Can you explain how you've evolved on your RAD read? Yesterday, you said this.
But today we have this.
I'm not following why you've changed to thinking RAD is scum. Do you think being defensive is scummy? You wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt yesterday, so what changed? You say that the Evan lynch went badly and we lost Via, but what does that have to do with Randa's alignment? I think the reason why this switch is so jarring to me is that I can't see why your opinion on RAD/Randa changed. If you're saying your gut feeling yesterday was wrong, then why do you think your gut feeling today is right?
This post is also weird to me because your other top scumspects are Refa and Elemina, but your only stated reasons seem to be because they voted on the Evan wagon. How do their votes differ from your vote on the Evan wagon such that it makes them scummy in your eyes? I'd think that since their votes were similar to yours, you'd try to differentiate a little more than you have, especially if you're town here.
I'm was with the others that he's was just being defensive right from the start. I thought evan was more scummy and i didn't want to attack rad because part of me felt like he could've been town and there was a misunderstanding so i went with that. it has nothing to do with the alignment there you're right. I'm not sure if it will be right, but i still don't another mislynch happening, though it could happen again.
Elemina because of mack's post where he was talking about both evan and randa and it looked like he joined up evan because he had more votes? refa was going with via's but that's fair. I should've you're right about that.
well shit, meant to post earlier but i passed out.
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22 hours ago, athena_57 said:
Since you seem hesitant to bring up scumreads by yourself, I'm going to ask a specific question. Who are in your opinion the two most scummy people on the Evan wagon? I want to hear other reasons than activity. I don't care how uncertain you are on them, I just want to know your top two.
Elemina/Mack2, and Refa. I'm suspicious of Elemina because of his former slot joining in easily on the evan vote. as JB said he gave reasons for RAD too, But went for evan. now that we know the flip it looks bad. Refa is the one im iffy about. His post did go with voting evan though it was sheeping.
11 hours ago, Conqueror said:I'm pretty neutral on Ice Sage since I can't read new players. I agree that having too many town reads and almost no scum reads is a scumtell for newbscum, but I disagree with Shinori that Ice Sage fits that profile since his town reads were kts, via (pretty consensus reads at the time) and eury and refa (???). That's not really that many. Then he has a bunch of neutral reads which is not that unusual for a new player. I can see why people think he's scummy but I dunno why people are so convinced he has to be scum because of his play? He could easily be inexperienced town who has trouble forming reads and verbalizing his reasons.
@Ice Sage Where are you currently standing on scumreads now that Evan is dead and town? Your reasons for finding Rapier and Bartozio scummy don't make any sense - none of those posts are particularly alignment indicative. What did you think of Bartozio's other posts that weren't jokeposts? Do you think being inactive makes him more scummy? What about all your neutral reads like Randa, Refa, etc.? Why did you think Evan antagonizing Via made him scummy?
1. Elemina, Refa though I'm still not fully sure, and Randa/RAD.
2. Bartozio's other posts look good. Him being defensive of refa is kinda weird, but the same could be said for me since I am still unsure myself on refa's case also. I'm holding off for now.
3. Could be, but I could also being really wrong on that.
4. RAD is one of my scumreads now. Refa is leaning there, but i need to see more. Haven't read him fully. I still don't think SB is scum, and Shinori Hasn;t done anything suspicious imo.
5. It was pretty weird he went at via like that. I thought it looked wolfy too.
2 hours ago, SB. said:I'm actually tonereading Ice as town now. His posts are like... consistently kinda confusing, but I feel like his buddies would be coaching him more as mafia and it looks like a lot of his game thoughts are kind of shaped by his OC game experience. I think stuff like the "reminds me of a town leader" comment is more likely to come from town because talking with buddies probably would have given him more of an idea about how NOC works. I want to know where @Ice Sage stands on Refa and RAD now though, is it still the same?
Refa is leaning on scum for me but still unsure. I can see why others think he is scummy. he hasn't posted in D2 at all and i want to see more. RAD/Randa is the one I think the most that is scum. Their posts in D1 were extremely defensive like others said, but i didn't want to vote him first because i wanted to give the benefit of the doubt. That went really bad now that we know what happened. we lost Via and Evan and I'll take the blame on it since at the time i thought evan was really scummy.
2 hours ago, Jaybee said:@Ice Sage, in the light of Evan's flip and what's happened so far on D2, who do you think is scum?
RAD, Refa and Elemina for the reasons i state above.
My gut feeling was wrong and i don't want to make the same mistake again
##Vote: RAD
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1 minute ago, Jaybee said:
i'm not getting off the evan train without a claim. Am alright with swapping over to Randa/RAD, the sudden swap on the Shinori read feels unnatural and sounds like a scumbuddy told him to back off on a more townread player. I don't understand what was the point of voting KTS as town either.
can the people townreading me explain why i'm being townread lmao i'm doing the exact same shit i did in sfmm5 (post once a day, be otherwise invisible)
2. Who else is scum aside from Evan?
1. Eury is looking at info and is trying to find more reads to find scum. She has showing some good posts and logic to them.
2. For now I'm thinking Rapier because of his earlier posts talking about different time zones and Bartozio saying rapier lynched him that one game because of that too. He's been inactive though
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10 hours ago, Eurykins said:
Ice Sage's opening post leaves me in a state of wanting more, I guess you could say? I can understand and agree with the vote on Evan, but the lone casing/voting of Evan feels... too easy? This could be chalked up to a first NOC gaming coming from this slot, but was Evan really the only person who initially stood out to you in a scummy manner? @Ice Sage
At the moment yes. There's still stuff i am unsure about, but only evan stuck out.
7 hours ago, Vi-astra said:I can't decide if Ice Sage's Evan vote is bad or not. on initial skim I thought it was pretty bad and I don't like how he attaches to KTS and I so easily as townreads. that's been said and done. I think mostly it's because I don't know what his thought process is there. have KTS or I done anything else that reads town to you @Ice Sage? agreeing w/ someone's case doesn't mean you also have to be townreading the person(s) making the case, though it does help. HOWEVER I like that he addresses the current other viable wagon (Refa). yeah he only has one scum read but there's effort here and also here, his answers to things are short but he's answering them. I don't find it odd he thinks shinori's voteswitching is scummy I see that as more a new player thing. he has his reasons and they read fine. Evan's response (throwing away all of his other reads to jump on Ice Sage??without any self-awareness about it?) feels worse to me than Ice Sage sheeping Evan.
I don't think Eury is scum anymore but I disagree about Refa having done nothing but sheep people ??
i'm already dreading it
KTS is providing good cases, reasons and questions against others is one of the things. it reminds me of like a town leader. When it comes to you Via Nothing you said has made me think of scum. Like you said if you were scumbuddies with evan there would probably be hard bussing. You're helping out with other cases as well. Just seeing you get antagonize like that makes me think you're town also.
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14 minutes ago, Shinori said:
What about my vote swaps are scummy Ice?
Generally someone who just leaves there vote on one person for an entire day phase is considered to be tunneling(which is generally bad) or lurking(which is bad). Is it just the act of me voteswapping that is bad or is there something specific about them that's bad?
I think switching votes a lot is weird? I can see where you're coming from though. staying to one can be bad.
14 minutes ago, Shinori said:Also you need to expand on that SB read because if I understand right currently you're saying he's scummy for asking questions and answering questions with good answers?
I wrote it down wrong. SB providing that makes me think he is not scum.
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4 minutes ago, Refa said:
Can you explain your thoughts on these other four players? Even if you're not sure, I want to know where you're coming from there.
Randa: He is being defensive a lot, but at the same time he was being ganged up on. I can see him being defensive as scum, but my gut feeling just doesn't think so yet.
Shinori: Voteswaps, but he is trying to find more scum reads so i can understand that.
SB: He is putting out questions and having good answers to others.
Bartozio: Nothing Bartozio said so far seems scum to me. I have to see more.
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first NOC. haven't really played much
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4 minutes ago, athena_57 said:
Are you done catching up? Any scum reads on actives? I dislike you coming back and just sheeping the case on a fellow inactive. "I don't see an explanation"--He has explained the antagonizing a bit and hasn't been online since people started voting him.
##FOS: Ice Sage
Yeah finished up. Only scum reads i have is Evan. it stuck out to me. when it comes to others like Randa, Shinori, SB, and Bartozio i am not sure at the moment.
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I'm liking KTS's and Via's take on this. Reading back through I found Evan's posts going against Via pretty antagonizing. it felt like it came out of nowhere. I don't really have that much reads, but i do think KTS, Via, and Eury are town. Eury's posts read town to me imo. I don't blame KTS for voting me at all. I have been inactive.
I also don't think Refa is scum either. Him being demotivated i feel the same. feeling down myself recently so I find it hard to motivate myself to get things down too. It looks like he is trying to find reads as well.
Out of everything i feel like evan might be scum. it was pretty weird and looked wolfy. I don't see any explaination from him.
##vote Evan
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oof missed a lot. time to start reading it all
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gotcha. really wanna try him out now that he can side b to upb offstage