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    The World of Fire Emblem (article)

    in Fire Emblem: Awakening

    Posted

    This is that game, with the Other-World. It just keeps it out of the way of the story.

    And yeah there's no reason to think this is alternate unless the timeline breaks completely, and we don't have evidence of that yet. We already sorted out Alm, after all. The real questions are Caeda and Ike and how they play into Paris's story.

    But... I meant the different realities literally collide and mush into one big mess. Meaning the game's story would be about the newly created reality. Well, regardless, it's just a thought I have.

    People have to realize, these different dimensions/realities could be very similar to each other, not only dissimilar. If Awakening is an alternate reality, some things would be the same but others wouldn't be the same. Perhaps Marth's tale was actually a thousand years later in this reality? Just because the description of the pegasus rider fits Sheeda so well. Of course, this particular example isn't so believable because of what Tiki says. But who knows, maybe Tiki was brought/sent to a different reality.. Or maybe Awakening is already converging on the combined realities. ._. A thousand years ago, the "First Holy King of Iris" is actually Ike, somehow! Which is just weird because the Great Flood happened 800 some years before Ike's tale. Alternate reality solution: the Great Flood happened at a different time. ...Stupid alternate realities; too many things can be different.

    ...Just saying. Speculation. Even though I'm rather adamant about it being a possibility, I really hope Awakening isn't actually an alternate reality/dimension.

    Oh, would it be safe to speculate that Emyuu is related to Diadora? (Emyuu = MU, my pet-name for any and all "My Unit"'s)

    The World of Fire Emblem (article)

    in Fire Emblem: Awakening

    Posted · Edited by Tsamimi

    Hmm, I'm starting to think Awakening's timeline is actually an alternate dimension.

    The game is telling the story of an alternate reality, where other alternate realities can be 'visited' (via DLC episodes). ...Which one is the real one?! (Uh, "the story of an alternate reality" just means it's not the same reality as the other games. Thus explaining the timeline discrepancies. Though maybe some of them are also alternate realities...) Ugh, BORING. It's no fun to have the excuse of "alternate reality" thrown in. Just when you think things are starting to fall into place, DENIED it's an alternate reality that has nothing to do with the others.

    Oh this might explain the name issues also, mainly Gimle supposedly being Medius. Country names are a little more understandable, albeit not-so-understandable that every single one has a different name seemingly out of nowhere.

    edit: TOTALLY NEED ONE OF THE NEXT FIRE EMBLEM GAMES TO CAUSE ALL THE REALITIES TO COLLIDE. Mess of paradoxes of epic proportions? Fire Emblem: Paradox of Realities

    So, how do you think Jugdral and Tellius are doing nowadays? (SPOILERS)

    in Fire Emblem: Awakening

    Posted · Edited by Tsamimi

    The flood affected the world outside of the continent of Tellius, or at least the part of Tellius that we know from 9/10. Perhaps 4 actually took place before 9/10. Although, 1/3 is about 1000 years after 4, and 13 is 2000 years after 1/3...and 1000 years prior to 13 there was major activity on the Akaneia/Iris continent. Seems to point in the direction of 9/10 being before everything else. ...Or the flood was the apocalypse of the world outside the one continent. But that's silly; that prospect just destroys all the stories from the other games.

    Curious. Could the tower on the island in Tellius' map actually be Blaggi Tower?

    If so, that puts 9/10 after 4. Might be a coincidence; there could have been a random (or not-so-random) tower there in the past, and Blaggi constructed a new one sometime after the original was destroyed? Didn't find anything mentioned about him 'rebuilding' a tower, but that little detail may have been omitted from history so as not to detract from the great "Blaggi Tower". <--9/10 is before 4 in this case

    Very curious about where the laguz disappeared to. Would be a little odd if there was so much interbreeding between laguz and humans that the laguz races dwindled into near-extinction. Ok, very odd, though not completely debunked. [Weee, double edit: Methinks the taguel race is some sort of evolved type of laguz. How else do you explain Chambray being entirely taguel and Velvet not loosing her abilities when he's born?]

    edit: A thought I have: the marks might be some sort of 'natural law' type thing in the Fire Emblem world(s) caused by mixed blood. It just...happens, and randomly at that. Meh, just a little thought.

    So, how do you think Jugdral and Tellius are doing nowadays? (SPOILERS)

    in Fire Emblem: Awakening

    Posted

    Thinking about Tellius:

    http://www.serenesfo...ipt/ending.html

    Ashunera

    How long has it been? A hundred years? Five hundred?

    Lehran

    About twelve hundred years.

    Ashunera

    I see. For mortals, that is many, many lives.

    Lehran

    Yes. The peace we once had is on the verge of crumbling again.

    Ashunera

    That is unfortunate. The miasma of war is beginning to shroud the world. However, I shall not again be frightened. As one born of the hopes of man I shall protect this world.

    That conversation bothers me a bit. Are they referring to when she was split as Ashera and Yune (thus the end of FE10), or the previous time she was the whole being, Ashunera? I see it going either way quite easily...

    So, how do you think Jugdral and Tellius are doing nowadays? (SPOILERS)

    in Fire Emblem: Awakening

    Posted

    Pardon me for interrupting the flow. Couldn't resist, had to sign up to post this tidbit: Tellius = Jugdral. The maps line up rather nicely, if you rotate Tellius' map 180 degrees.

    First thing to note, is the tower on the island east-southeast that has the name "Asmin" on it:

    10mapL.jpg

    Whether Asmin is referring to the island or the tower, I don't know. Now then, a tower on an island. Friend of mine instantly thought of Blaggi Tower, so I decided to compare maps. Rotate Tellius' map:

    fe10.png

    fe4.png

    Very similar, wouldn't you say? (Just disregard Phoenicis/Kilvas. They appeared/disappeared sometime, I guess.) The desert is even the same general location...sort of. ...And the "tower on an island" syndrome.

    I was always bothered that the rest of Tellius' land mass wasn't explored further. Desert to the east, Hatari located somewhere passed it, and the extension to the north on the eastern side. So much uncharted land! Incomplete map! -complains-

    Whether FE9/10's timeline is before or after FE4's is still debatable, but this adds a little to the speculations. I really want to bring up the song about the white heron princess and the raven prince. That puts 9/10 before 13, at least. I'd like to think it's significant, and not just a reference for fun.

    --

    Couple thoughts on the mysterious Paris.

    First is mostly about the first Holy King. If Paris is actually the Holy King from 1000 years ago, I for one hope he's either a manakete or laguz/taguel, if only so that there isn't a funky time/dimension travel explanation. You know, since manaketes can live for a few thousand years and apparently so can bunny taguel, not to mention dragon or heron laguz...Lehran is HOW old...? Time travel and dimension hopping is rather cliche (personal opinion), and we already have both in Awakening. Do not want more of it.

    However, the taguel part seems both likely and unlikely because of this: the first Holy King--according to Velvet--freed the taguel from slavery. Perhaps a fairy-tale story about a taguel gaining the trust of enough humans in order to free his kin. But, it's too much of a fairy-tale to happen, given what happens in Tellius. Being a manakete makes a bit of sense. We don't know the position of manaketes around the time of the first Holy King, though it might be worth remembering that Tiki was/is hailed as a "divine dragon priestess"--at least in..."Warm". (Tiki may very well be a special case, as she "has the power to destroy the world". Three quick possibilities: 1-Tiki is a special case, 2-Tiki is a special case and thus influenced opinions about other manaketes to the positive, or 3-Tiki's position has no effect whatsoever.) Manaketes might have also been persecuted because of the ability to transform into a creature, but, they might not have been. Manaketes and taguels are similar because of the transformation aspect, so perhaps the similarity caused a certain manakete to attempt to free the taguel from slavery; that certain manakete eventually becoming the first Holy King.

    ...Oops, I make it sound like freeing the taguel was the only thing he did. Just for clarity: I'm focusing on that one aspect to try to make of sense of whether or not he could have been a manakete or taguel. ...IF Paris turns out to be him (the first Holy King), thus explaining why he shows up 1000 years later in Awakening's timeline.

    SECOND... Maybe the first Holy King was Ike. Why not. Even if Ike's character makes him unlike to have taken the ruler position, depending on exactly what happened at that time he might not have but the people decided to name him the first king regardless. ...Or the legends became skewed as time passed. Or both. (Edit while still writing the post! Velvet says the first Holy King argued that humans and taguel are "the same"? That just SCREAMS Ike. You know, 'people' are 'people', regardless of what color their hair or skin is or whether they have claws or a tail or wings. Somehow didn't catch it until just now..)

    This kinda means Paris is some random important--or semi-important--person we'll find out more about when that SpotPass chapter comes. Or...

    Third, that Paris is a person that time traveled or went through a dimensional gate. ...This prospect is so uninteresting to me. It's exciting at first, but it gets old fast.

    End of thoughts.

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