Jalmont

so apparently when i yell at people i am mafia but when rocker overreacts it makes him ok??? OK he's literally pulling stuff out his ass (I haven't even voted you??? why would voting me be OMGUS???) and he really is overreacting to one post i made oh well Psych is really flip-flopping (waffling or w/e?) I don't know first he says I'm looking better then I'm not because I'm wrong about whatever I say about Rocker. Don't really want to risk lynching the doc claim right now, but it's on the table if we don't have any other clear options imo.

i'm not pushing a lynch on anyone, i pointed out what i believed was a discrepancy so others could put their opinions on the topic. I am sorry if you dislike the fact I am not searching for the right things I tried helping but apparently whatever i do i am mafia ???? whatever i will just try harder

sorry for not playing how you wanted me to next time just PM me how i am supposed to play thanks

woah serious mad itt

Yeah, that's a better analogy of what I'm trying to say.

well that anology was vague, the point being there that when the positives outweigh the negatives then people will likely do it a better analogy would be the one i used in the graveyard, the one where you are playing a sport and your team has more players than the other team. Do you reduce the players on the field for your team? I would say no. You could say that's abusing the rules but I would say you are taking advantage of a situation that is not your fault. If the other team can't get its players to show up that isn't your problem. You might not like the attitude but I don't think anyone can fault someone who refused to reduce. hope that analogy made sense i probably explained it better in the graveyard @Ryjui-Kun so would I, but I strongly disagree that I was playing "dirty." Playing dirty is more like cheating ie talking outside the main thread. Obviously, what is "dirty" is an opinion and i doubt anyone will agree with me there :/ edit: Thanks Balcerzak, I appreciate that.

yeah but what's being a "dick"? i'm not a dick or unethical but i did something because i wanted to win which automatically makes me a bad guy. i would say something about so callled "rule exploitation" but i'm not interested in a fight so i won't say it whatever it's pointless trying to argue seeing that something i say will probably set off a chain reaction of people telling me i'm an asshole which i'm really not interested in doing

i guess i will just play to lose next time then

like i said i'm sorry if you are upset at me, and i won't be playing here again so you don't have to worry about it happening again

but you did win :/

again i'm sorry and i won't be playing here unless someone asks modkilling another person really only works if the negatives outweight the positives like if the only punishment for robbery was community service there would be more robberies because the risk is worth it. that's what happened there, the benefit outweighed the negative

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ edit: In response to Prims, I don't think what I did was "unethical" at all, I simply played the situation to my advantage. If people don't want this to happen, then the rule should be changed to something that harms the village's ability to win ie modkill another person or not reveal the role of the modkilled player. Not trying to come off as not caring here, but I'm just trying to say I don't believe I did anything wrong, but if anyone thinks I ruined the game I'm sorry. just so i don't sound like an insensitive prick: I'm sorry if anyone finds what I did to be unethical or distasteful, and I'm sure many, if not all of you think that, so yeah I'm sorry. If anyone is really worked up about it, I probably won't be playing here that much anyways unless someone asks me so yea

i did my duty honorably

So read through the thread again. My immediate thoughts: Ryuji and Bluedoom's fighting seemed to be village infighting. I tried analyzing the voting patter on Lucina. It was hard to really find anything, as the lynch was started by now confirmed villager Snike. If I had to guess I would say that one of the following users that voted Lucina is likely mafia. However's it's difficult for me to pin-point who this might be seeing that Ryuji-Kun's play has so far been confusing to me. On one hand I feel like he has been pro-village; he wanted to move past RVS, started discussions, and in general was prompting scum-hunting. Yet on the other hand, he's really been all over the place in his posting. I personally find emotion to be a village response (will explain if necessary, doesn't feel aplicable at the present moment), but it just seemed way to early to get emotional when no one was seriously considering to lynch him. He also had this post: While I know this is probably slightly hypocritical (in my defense I will say I have been mainly trolling up until this point), I want to say that he fails to give any reason why Psych is not scummy, while implicitly implying that because he faked a post restriction he is playing normal. I don't really think that really has any application in this situation, and I fail to see the point being made here, except that he isn't mafia because ??? It's too late to question him since he subbed but I'm interested in seeing how his sub will post. Right now, I think he's doing fine, except I dislike his read on me that I'm mafia because I didn't change my vote. I find it hard to read into something like that (for the record, not changing vote from RVS would not be a scum tell with the similar circumstances revolving around my vote) and I find that his posts so far have echoed what everyone has said so far, but perhaps that is to be expected. I find it interesting that he did not address any actions of the player he subbed in for, but that could be something that just doesn't happen in NOC. Rocker's posts really bugged me, particularly this one.

alright i've decided that i've been playing really bad up until this point, i'm going to take a break, come back and look at this, and try and provide some better insight my last few posts have been crap and if i keep trying to post more i will continue to flood the threat with useless shit sorry

I could argue on what is "useful" and whatever but from the one game i subbed into I noticed that people tended not to listen when I got all tl;dr so I'm trying to avoid that in the hopes that people will maybe actually listen to me this time :/ Like I said I find lists to be stupid and unhelpful but it was between that and being inactive so I posted a quick sum-up of my thoughts. I would never not take blame for something I said, but yeah that's pretty much whatever I guess,

people asked me to post so i gave everyone a list that was just a rough outline of my thoughts at the time, if you didn't like it sorry, i hate lists as well but it's the better of two evils when you consider that and not posting. The difference with my one-liners is that they actually have meaning instead of being inside jokes, but not everyone's a fan i suppose

i'm really sorry i never changed my vote i had no idea that putting more pressure on a player with less than 24 hours in the day when we need a lynch target was a good idea i am so sorry :/

See, you're implying that I was keeping my vote on Snike because I believed he was mafia, which isn't true. I said that I wanted to vote Psych out. Just because I didn't change my vote doesn't mean that I was lying. I dunno, I guess you could read into that and see me as a scum, but I think that's pretty silly so w/e i'll be gone for a couple hours so just a heads up

Clearly when two people put pressure on a third they must be "buddying" there is no alternative explantion. Using that logic everyone who voted Lucina was buddying with each other. Since Lucina flipped town we can come to the conclusion that everyone who voted Lucina must be mafia!!! Great logic there bro! basis for what? Thinking your mafia, iunno pretty much everything everyone else has said (bad one-liners, not doing much etc)

i agree i must be mafia because i voted a player in the RVS how terrible of me i must be mafia O.O

whaaaaaat this was a complete overrreaction to what i said, I say I think you are mafia and I would like a lynch on you so you automatically jump to me and Helios are scum together? Yeah, I don't think so. i'm not sure how exactly you came to your conclusions so I'm sorry to say I think you are one we should look at closely for our lynch today.

<p dir="ltr">Psych's posts read to me as someone who is pretending to hide and fit in with the village by posting without giving any real opinion. Obviously Lucina hasn't been doing much at all either, but I really doubt that this early a mafia would take that sort of attitude and knowingly post something that bad without expecting some sort of consequence. I have no idea if Lucina is a person who would do something like that, or if this is something not normal for her style of play.

Just a heads up, should we choose to change the lynch I should be able to make it on before deadline to change barring unforeseen circumstances.