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Eirika's not in Tellius either.Is Pent in Tellius? No. What he can do means nothing in regards to what Micaiah can do.It means more to what she can't do, and shows how frail she really is - reduced to the level of an archer because she has poor defense.
One more hit and she's dead~At base HP, that's still healing 14 HP for an ally, which will allow them to do something other than heal themself on that turn and still grants Micaiah experience.
Swords are a lot cheaper than Light magic. In both games.She can counter attack, but she doesn't need to. Eirika can double, but she still doesn't one-round. Micaiah does about the same amount of damage to her enemies in one round, occasionally more with bonus damage, but only uses one shot of her weapon and doesn't take a counter attack. That's better.Eirika can afford to use a better sword to help one round because her speed is just that damn secure. Micaiah won't be one rounding no matter what weapon you give her because of her lack of speed.
Eirika has bonus damage too. Rapier, anyone?
I always thought Chapter one had both. Chapter two has a load more axe users, I know for a fact.Chapter one already has more lance users than axe users. Seth is a hell of a lot better for the boss anyway.Seth is technically better than every single person against every single enemy in the early game so I don't see why that matters.
No, you said "who was better than her at her job," her job being offense.The comparison was "Who in her game is better than her?" I'm not comparing anyone on offensive ability alone if they can do more than that.
Before promotion lasts 14 chapters out of 21. After promotion lasts 16 chapters out of 21. So that's two chapters where Neimi has a noticeable lead, 5 where it's trivial if it even were to exist. In your untrue circumstance, being better for 2/3 of the game > being better for 1/3, and Eirika's apart of the former.Before promotion. Eirika > Neimi. After, Neimi > Eirika. This is also because Neimi promotes sooner.
I'm pretty sure if you look back, you see that the point primarily dealt with offense. And who's doing Eirika's job as an offensive character better than she is. Natasha and Moulder have no real offense until the last thirds of the game and Colm's offense is pretty bad.That's stupid. Characters aren't judged on offense alone if they can do more than that.
You've yet to play hard mode. When I recall playing the red dragons had like 45% hit on her on easy mode, which is subject to increase even more especially considering Micaiah is probably like at a low level, due to many premature promotions and still not being at that high a level. How can you expect her to get SS in Light magic?It's the best tome she has to use, why would you not use it? The dragons are so slow even she can double them, and I don't remember them being accurate either. Then there's the spirits that can't even hurt her.
Then there's Ashera that she'll have a hard time doing damage against.Then there's the spirits that can't even hurt her.
Offensively speaking, she does a relatively poor job in Part IV. Offensively speaking, she's doing alright in Part I only due to the fact that she has Thani and high magic. Offensively speaking, she's not doing much worse than Part I, if at all; I'd put it below Part I because enemies are a lot stronger.With her massive magic, Thani's 8 might, and the fact she's attacking resistance, she's hitting everything heavily all the way through parts 1 and 3, and still doing a decent job in part 4.
Mist can take care of that job with better movement to boot. How easy they are is irrelevant, how well they're doing in both is more relevant. Micaiah isn't doing that much damage and is still healing (oh come on, you're shitting on what you're trying to defend) but Eirika's starting to do more damage and is mounted... and has access to many a silver sword by this point.The later parts are also easier in both games I might add. So what if Eirika shines there? (She doesn't really anyway) It's the easiest part of the game. Micaiah is less useful later because it's the easiest part of the game, but she's still fairly useful because characters still need healing on occasion.
Micaiah's the detriment shortly into Part I. Eirika's fine in all her chapters. Both are forced, and Eirika's pretty good for a forced Lord.I agree. This is why Micaiah > Eirika.
No.. Micaiah's pretty bad. Eirika's either in the bottom or the middle of high tier in her game.Micaiah is not nearly as bad as you make her out to be, and Eirika not nearly as good as you make her out to be.I've only said enough when one of us is proven wrong. I know and believe that - in both relative and overall terms - Eirika > Micaiah. Therefore, Micaiah exists mainly to make Part I hell. I can't think of a more out of fit Lord for this game than her.
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The point flew over your head.No. What Pent can do means nothing. It's like saying Gilliam sucks because Oswin has better defense (I don't know if that's true, it's just an example).You're saying that Micaiah should be on the backlines because of her 1-2 range right, being able to use the 2? I'm saying that Pent can take both the front and the back, because of his making full use of the 1-2 range. Because he's not frail. The only reason you restrict a mage to the back is because they're frail, which is a point against them for many reasons: no counter attack, and general frailty.
No, it's not. Have you seen her HP stat? At best it's good for abuse because of Sacrifice -> Laura using a Staff so they both get EXP, but it's not even worth mentioning considering how Vulneraries do a better job.She does have Sacrifice. It isn't as good as staves, but it's useful.
Worse than average. She can't counter attack properly or double. Eirika can do both.Micaiah's offense is about average, same as Eirika I might point out throughout pretty much the entire game.
Laura's not even reaching promotion unless you go completely out of your way.Laura's offense, once promoted, is actually pretty good with her 70% Magic, Skill, and Speed growths.
Against axe users? She's probably the best candidate for the second boss too with that Rapier.In the early chapters she can still get hit rather often.
Colm's thief utility is only a utility step, the main point was that people did Eirika's job better. Eirika does her job - of being an offensive person - worse than 1/3 of the game whereas Micaiah does her offensive job worse than 1/3 of the game. The comparison was initially due to offense, and I believe should stay that way.Colm has thief utility, it puts him a step above Eirika. We were comparing which characters were better than Eirika. By that logic of yours, Moulder and Natasha should not have been on your list.
For the 13 or 14 chapters before that? Eirika wins. Eirika > Neimi because even if Neimi has one more weapon type available, Eirika can use stronger swords and win in offense that way. And her evade gets consistent enough that any weighing down won't affect her - Neimi has to sword to that spot with Iron or Steel Swords, I forget which.On promotion is where Neimi shines. Same movement and weapon as Eirika, but with another weapon to add to it. On promotion, Neimi > Eirika.
Offensively, yes. That was the original point I tried to argue, and I'm sticking by it.So because they don't do the same thing Eirika does makes them worse? lolno.
I don't think anybody's using Rexaura at all, and I don't think she'll be having much use of it anyway. I'd rather she not do mediocre (especially in relative terms) damage to the dragons and just sit back and heal; she's risking getting killed that way too. (15 uses is NOT cool).She's also the best unit for Rexaura since the other Saints suck for endgame and her caps are all better.Micaiah's "hitting heavily" against armors and mounts with Thani at best. Everything else takes about a quarter damage to a thirds of their damage from her by part IV.
Healing not being needed as often later equates to her use dropping substantially. You still have room to kill a lot in the later parts and Eirika does a pretty decent job at it.
Being useful in some way, shape or form in all chapters > Being a forced detriment to your team in all chapters available. She's a helper against select enemies in Part I due to one shotting armors and such, and in part III because of healing but not much much.
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And now I'm using Pent to compare to Micaiah to prove a point. See how that works?Yes, they are, so why are we comparing them? Because you asked if there were any lords in the series worse than Micaiah and I answered with Eirika.
Problem: Micaiah doesn't heal in Part I.The job is healing and/or light magic. Healing is near essential in Micaiah's chapters.Another problem? Their offenses really blow (in Micaiah's case, it goes from somewhat decent in Part I [only due to Thani's one-shots] to mediocre). If Laura even gets an offense.
Frailest but second quickest. To Seth, of all people.She's the frailest member of her team until you get Ross and Neimi, who both have good ranged options.
Thief utility is not Eirika's job. He's not apart of the comparison if you're strictly comparing the offense of both of them.I'm not debating other characters of her game, but I do find them all better than Eirika. I will, however, mention Colm's thief utility that you seem to have overlooked. I even put Neimi higher than Eirika, but I know that won't get far.Neimi can't attack at melee range until promotion, Eirika can. Neimi's not bad and all but... only one potential attack per turn is really not as good as Eirika's especially because Eirika probably doubles more and does more damage as a result.
The rest of your post seems like a cop out anyway.
Right I miscounted.If you add my list to yours, that's 18/33 playable characters, not including Orson. That's more than half. Micaiah is only being compared to the characters on her team, and while they may generally be better fighters, she's needed for her healing utility. She > a good number of the characters on her team.If you discount the ones I already discounted/refuted you probably do still get something close to 13/33. I was pretty iffy on Gerik and at first iffy on Artur - I'd class them as about a half each, but I don't feel like it. Since I wasn't thinking straight and was talking strictly offense, I'm taking another two off so it's 11/33. Moulder and Natasha are healers for at least two thirds of the game.
She's needed for her healing utility in three or four chapters (give me a sec to think, how many dawn chapters are there in Part III?), and in Part IV not necessary and in endgame, not wholly necessary either. They're a large three chapters but... that's her standout moment as a healer. And just a healer, not an offensive unit.
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You've splattered the point of a Micaiah vs Eirika debate here as well. They're two completely different characters in completely different games too.But what Pent can do means nothing in a Micaiah vs. Eirika debate because he's a completely different character in a completely different game.
If the job is getting killed easily, sure.Other characters can do Eirika's job much better. One character shares Micaiah's job: Laura.
Full support is the only pro in this statement. Her chapters being the tougher one really doesn't help her cause one bit, especially since she's a very frail mage with low AS.Micaiah comes with a full support already and her chapters are some of the toughest in the game.
Early on Eirika is surviving plenty fine, then. When her supports and speed build up, it's cool.Eirika can't be ganged up too much or she can die as well, unless it's only axes ganging up on her. Thing is, axes aren't the majority enemy weapon, not at all. Oh, and I asked for a list of people she was outclassing, but I suppose that'll do. I can add Colm, Tana, Cormag, Artur, Gerik, and possible Ross and Garcia.Colm's offense is terrible. Even worse than Eirika's supposedly is.
Tana's not as good as Eirika for about a quarter of the game. You know, the quarter where you have the two of them at the same time and have to help build up Tana.
Cormag is on the same boat as Tana, only with less evade and more defense.
Artur and Gerik were people I forgot, though I was on the edge with Gerik.
Garcia has poor AS; Ross, while not too hard to baby, is still annoying to baby and his offense is decent. He's really not much better than Eirika by any means, especially because he's pretty much promoting at the fog of war chapter (I forget the number). Eirika sustains a solid level lead for quite a bit.
Even if most of that's right, you're talking about a thirds of the chars here. I'm sure a lot more than a thirds of the chars in FE10 are better than Micaiah.
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Do you even know what the point of that was? To compare. It makes it easier for me to say what I wish to say.But we weren't arguing Pent at all.Let me start my argument over, since it's definitely easier for getting my point across... it just feels repetitive going against another post of yours which is why I copped out... but screw my earlier statement, here goes something.
Why would you have Micaiah in the backlines? Partly because of the extra 2 range, the other part is because she's frail as hell. However, Pent can easily hold his own, and he is a mage with 1-2 range as well. Micaiah is good even though she can only afford to attack from the backlines until the end of Part I (after which, only like three chapters become relevant anyway - they get progressively easier too) which is also only because she's frail? Eirika is good because she can afford frontlines (not backlines because then she can't attack!) and can dish out a counter attack against what she already weakens.
That covers both offense and defense, let's not forget that Eirika's either there for 3/4 or 100% of the entire game and thus has a chance to support with good characters in the game which boosts her usefulness...
Basically, enemies can gang up on one and they'll be alright, whereas enemies can gang up on another and... she'll get raped really badly. You can't possibly say that Eirika's worse than Micaiah even on a relative level. Hell, I was too hellbent on disproving that... I forgot to even ask you this! Who is outclassing Eirika exactly? I can think of Joshua, Seth, Franz, Ephraim, Tethys, Natasha, Moulder, Vanessa, Lute, Kyle, Forde, and who else?
How good each is for their own pile is irrelevant to how good each is overall, which is what should be measured. I myself would rather look at the scratched diamond than the golden crap; I'd rather overlook the crap as a whole and just stare at the scratched diamond.
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To be fair, some of them did have cool names...
Not like there's much personality in this game anyway.
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Oh, I have been proven wrong.
Is it even possible to make only four people kill in this game, though? Or you can get a lot of people to kill and get all of them killed right...?
In which case, you don't have to be insane. Just trying to prove a point, lol.
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I felt Pent was relevant because he was a magic user who could take the frontlines. You don't restrict someone with 1-2 range because they can't take the frontlines, you do it because they're too handicapped to do so which Pent really isn't. After all, it can take both direct and indirect counters while dishing out indirect damage (the former being useful, the latter being used most often).
Which is irrelevant because the scratched jewel is still good.But that less ugly piece of crap is better for its pile than the scratched jewel is for its pile. -
You get a Heron on your top five by basically getting 0 kills with everyone else, or just getting kills with five people and getting them to get into a lot of battles. I don't think anyone here is insane, no.
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I'd like to say that he's doing a pretty shitty job of frontlining if he can be two shotted.Micaiah can occasionally be one-shotted, Leonardo is on 2 range. Edward is frontlining.
No, it's good for weakening stuff so others can get kills for experience.Like I said earlier, this is good to prevent your guys from eating counter attacks on player phase.
The part before that is the main part I was referring to. Which is a good 30% of Part I.Not so much. Once he gets good speed (60% growth btw) and an iron axe he's good to go.
Not all defenses are 100% perfect. The fact that Laura has piss poor defense means that you have no room for leniency; at least other healers allow for some extent of leniency.Lol. Laura with her healing makes things much easier. If you can't keep her away from enemies, that's your fault.
On the flipside, Eirika ain't hindering as much as Micaiah is either.I don't care about Ewan and Amelia. The point is, 85% of FE8's cast could be considered good characters because it's easy. FE10 is harder, so who's good is relative to who is helping out more, and Eirika does not help her team as much as Micaiah helps hers.
And? An advantage is an advantage, a disadvantage is a disadvantage.Supposedly yes, except for the fact that a lot of characters (more than in other games anyway) can get a very similar mount.
They're both two rounding. Eirika has an easier time doing so, and you know why? She can afford to eat counter attacks because she can survive a couple and avoid a lot of them.Her strength isn't as good as most units on her team. Eirika is two-rounding, you just said. Well, Micaiah is as well, except occasionally one-rounding. Otherwise, yeah, but so what?
And? She's not doubling with it. I don't think she even two rounds with it all the time, even if she can one shot the cavalry and knights in part I with it. Eirika can one round them with a rapier, anyway.Alright. Micaiah, on the other hand, gets a weapon losing in power only to the strongest tome she can wield throughout the entire game at chapter 2 with no AS loss from it and 90 total uses. She's pretty much set.
No, but it goes by your logic in which someone sucks because everyone else is a lot better even that that someone is still helping. And everyone else ISN'T a lot better by the way, pretty much three swords to two thirds of the cast is being outperformed by her; Eirika also has some really good support partners to help.That doesn't help your side one bit.(Light's a decent affinity by the way, in FE8 at least.)
Not... really. She still can't eat counter attacks very well.At fighting perhaps. Luckily, she uses staves as you so plainly pointed out. After her best part of fighting is over is when she gets them also, so she's never rendered useless. She's still a decent fighter when you compare her to the rest of her team.
Except she'll be behind so often so she can't counter attack too often, once again. The fact that she has to be protected a lot also says plenty about her; her frailty and everything. I could definitely afford to use Pent on the frontlines because she could take a hit, despite being a mage.Micaiah doesn't need to. 1-2 range + staves says she doesn't have to see an enemy attack at all and still be a major help. Eirika has to see enemy combat because she has no decent ranged option, and although she may dodge axes, swords and lances can find her below average defense on occasion.Really, the only reason she needs to be in the backlines is because of her crappy durability, right? Because 1-2 can still afford the frontlines if they're durable enough or have enough evasion. Pent was durable enough with enough evasion to top it all off; Micaiah is the opposite.
It still means stuff. The only reason she's protected in the first place is because she can't afford to take counter attacks.Micaiah can do more than just fight, though. Are you just completely ignoring the staff option? I already explained why Micaiah doesn't need to see enemy attacks, so her frailty doesn't mean as much.
Eirika is still bottom of High material at the lowest because of her massive availability and the fact that she can survive during that time.It's how much they aid the team. Micaiah is healing, supporting Sothe, hitting hard, and occasionally one-shotting on a team that desperately needs that kind of help. Eirika is an average fighter on a team mainly consisting of overpowered units. If you just ignore the rest of the team, Eirika > Micaiah, but that's not an accurate comparison in the least.If you ignore the rest of the team in both cases, you're judging raw quality. Micaiah can't stand up against the enemies very well unless she gets lots of protection, whereas Eirika can afford to be on the frontlines. WTA helps her early on against Axe users.
A scratched jewel in a pile of jewels is still better than a golden piece of crap in a pile of crap.
And from here, I take my leave in a point aside from this. I'm really poor at arguing what I'm trying to argue so...
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I'd actually go on a whim here and say he's not. They both die in two hits in Chapter 1.Even so, Edward is a better frontlines than Leo or Micaiah, so he's more likely to be up there.
Only applies after part I. Where Thani isn't as useful, like I said earlier, because she isn't one rounding with it anymore. Just coming close to it.And? This is part of the reason Micaiah is helping. Staves + Thani. Backline fighting and healing.
Prologue was piss simple. Do we really need to argue here?Prologue: Edward can wall, heal himself when needed, anyone can usually take out the bandits on the player phase after Edward hit on enemy phase.
I said that Nolan starts dying easier after this point.Chapter 1: Nolan's here. 'nuff said, seeing as he's a better wall than Edward.
No, it's not even easier because Laura is here. In fact, it gives you even more units to protect that are frail as all hell, with Laura being the mother of that bunch! Pretty much everyone's in deep shit here except Sothe and to an extent Nolan, especially Micaiah.Chapter 2: Laura's here. There aren't too many enemies in a somewhat big space. Walling is even easier because Laura can heal. Sothe comes part way through.
Someone who can definitely stand the heat of a game > someone who can barely stand the heat of a game. Also, Ewan and Amelia are hard to bring up to par ESPECIALLY Ewan.Pretty much any character except Knoll and Syrene can stand the heat of FE8.
It's still an advantage no?Eirika's mount only gives her 7 movement anyway, 1 more than regular foot units, so it's no huge advantage.
Her Strength is average, and it's fine. She'll two round most of the time especially considering the calibur of the enemies, and hell she's pretty much doubling consistently until Chapter 9 if you decide to go through Ephraim's route, or throughout the entire game through her route. And realistically your units are promoting one or two chapters before she promotes so she's not too far behind that it's disadvantageous.She's still locked to swords with low strength, and Sieglinde only has 30 uses.She can afford heavier/stronger weapons too. Her Speed is that secure.
Then again, nobody needs to be used in FE8 because Seth is already raping, already promoted and already has a shitload of move.Her late promotion does hurt her when everyone else is level 5 promoted and raping already.
Same applies to Micaiah except she's not spectacular - or anywhere near it - throughout the entire game. At best it's when she gets ahold of a physic staff.She's ok beforehand, but nothing great.
Because she is. Eirika can take a hit and even avoid it, Micaiah cannot.If you're looking at the fact that Eirika can double that enemy and likely dodge, while Micaiah can't likely won't dodge, you will see Eirika as better than Micaiah.
No, Micaiah is a hindrance. FE10 being harder than FE8 means that Micaiah has more to fight, and requires a lot more offense and defense to fight against; her offense only consists of having a high magic stat, but her defense really blows. She's frail and can't double, and in turn gets doubled later on because of her mediocre speed stat (and all the enemies having high speed in general).But if you look at the fact that FE10 is harder than FE8, especially in hard mode, Micaiah is helping her team more than Eirika is helping hers.In an easier game, everyone is better. In a harder game, everyone is worse. In relative terms, not really, but in raw terms, it is true; I'm arguing on raw terms, not relative but I still can't see how Eirika's doing worse than Micaiah on relative terms either.
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you're only saying it's fail because you're in the conversation obv...
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Edited my post a lot, by the way. I just want people to pay attention to the last two paragraphs, the before two are just nitpicky details.
Have you played Hard Mode? There's no Weapon Triangle, as I forgot to mention. I'm pretty much arguing with hard mode in mind here, and he's having a hard time dodging especially without WTA against Axes early on.
Someone bring me the most up to date tier list of both games because I'm actually curious.
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I'd like to note that even with low luck, only a select few classes, at best, will have have critical rates that are worrying. The rest will be five percent or below, because Aran has some base luck and the crit rate is skill/2... which is going to be around 20 at best in Micaiah's chapters.
Just understand, I'm not arguing on relative means here. I think Eirika's even better than Micaiah on relative means; the fact that she works as a weakener doesn't help her one bit, and Sacrifice is a stupid skill because her HP really blows anyway, Edward gets killed in two hits early on without the Dracoshield and Nolan will go straight to hell if he doesn't gain enough speed by Chapter 3 or 4 - he probably will, but he'll still take a lot of damage. Sothe is the only one with a consistent fighting chance and even he starts to feel the enemies later on. Zihark too.
They have little problem after they're built up and start to get used to the feel of the FE10 atmosphere. Until then, Micaiah and the rest of her squad are pretty hard to keep alive without completely tanking.
The main point to do with her getting hit was that everyone else was too busy keeping themselves alive to protect her and be in the "backlines" in the first place. This is at the very beginning couple chapters, by the way, notably before you get Sothe.
I don't actually want to turn this into a full on debate; in fact the above is just random ramblings.. I think I can argue your points if I didn't skim your posts, but I'd think that it all boils down to this: you can't say that a lord who is arguably doing pretty well in her own game is worse than a lord who is doing, at best, average and generally very mediocre in HER own game.
I'm not giving a damn about relativity here, even in both games; that applies to the fact that some units are a lot more powerful than Micaiah and the fact that supposedly a lot of units are more powerful than Eirika (once again, at least half are being outperformed by her, and her late promotion doesn't matter because she's already doing a decent job beforehand, she just gets a mount this time and rapes). In raw terms, Eirika > Micaiah. Even in relative terms, Eirika > Micaiah, because Eirika can stand the heat of FE8.
EDIT: Bah you better give me like five minutes (it's like :55 as of this editing, so :00 works lol), I have too many second thoughts after I post.
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[10:32:17] <Fox2> actually
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[10:32:30] <Fox2> falling apart at the seams
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[10:33:13] <Wist> How long did that take?
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[10:33:20] <Fox2> Oh, maybe two hours
[10:33:24] <Fox2> but I mean
[10:33:29] <Fox2> I was doing other stuff
[10:33:35] <Fox2> so I didn't really notice
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[10:35:46] <Fox2> I know
[10:35:46] <Fox2> :D
[10:35:51] <Fox2> but I lol'd when I got it
I'm sorry the two aren't helping it one bit.
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EDIT: The rest of the convo doesn't help. Ignoring the fact that it's scans...
[10:29:03] <Fox2> for the record
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[10:32:24] <Wist> I need to do that, most of my cards are piled in shoeboxes.
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too lazy to highlight and hit delete?
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The fact that you have to use her should be irrelevant to how good she is. She still is pretty bad and a complete misfit in this game. Her frailty IS a huge factor especially in Part I, where your units are too busy watching their own ass to help watch micaiah's. And then there's the swarms of enemies that Part III tends to throw at you, which Micaiah can't handle herself.
Lack of WTA with the common enemy is also a problem, I wouldn't say that losing in WTA is a disadvantage against other Mages though - they do no damage to her anyway.
You missed what I said, too. Thani is good in part I. In Part III, it's decent, but not as good because enemies are stronger and a lot less likely to be one round; in Part I they're very likely to be one rounded. So really, all she's becoming good for after Part I is healing and leaving a dent in the enemy, for others to kill. The fact that she can use a Physic right off the bat (IIRC?) helps.
Eirika's performance is fine. Even if others are doing better (at least half the cast is losing to her, especially after she promotes, by the way), she's still doing way better than Micaiah can in her own game.
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You mean, changing its spelling to a more phonetically pleasing one?
Shiida and Sheeda the same phonetically. I don't see a problem with it myself.
I like Merric better.Marich to Merric (Seriously, wtf?)Zagaro -> Sedgar. ~_~
Linda -> Linde... does Linda make too much sense as a name?
Navarre -> Nabarl. Navarre was actually the name of an empire, but a lot of people translated it as Nabarl so I have no clue why I am complaining.
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Why did a couple ChinaFE people have to get SSS ranks, it makes me rage because I feel inadequate.FE5 is a bit harder than HM5. With FEDS, you just have to think and camp, while getting perfect ranks in FE5 is nearly impossible.
[Eaichu got an SS once didn't he?
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Thani's pretty much her only redeeming factor. Even that starts to drag after Part 1. Her Part 3 healing utility is definitely a plus, but she's still an extreme form of a glass cannon.
Eirika's fine. She's frail at the beginning, but at least she can evade and double consistently near the end. And she gets a mount and I also believe her Defense isn't bad.
Especially relative to the game, Eirika's doing a lot better than Micaiah because FE8's really easy on the highest difficulty.
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If you're the army leader, all units get +5 evade/hit per star.
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Can you think of anyone worse? I know I can't.^That's easily debatable.Micaiah's a lord in a game where enemies have ridiculously high hit and AS and her evade and AS are ridiculously low. And late promotions too. And crappy light magic.
Part 4 was my least favorite part because everyone was promoted. I found it more fun to make people work towards the promotion goal so getting to it was actually a bit of a buzzkill... I guess.
I also hate the plot.
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He's talking about H5.
Least Favorite Part
in Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
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(I'm judging on Normal mode then jacking them proportional to the 2/3 of HM I've played, since I'm too lazy to finish too).
So can Mist.Sacrifice fails. Sothe support is okay.Part IV being where things get easy doesn't excuse anything. If she's not helping the team much, she's not helping the team much; no excuses.
Eirika's not as good as one thirds of the game. And you've yet to fully refute this.She's just as useful when it counts. She's frail as all fuck in Part I (which is still harder than Part III) and can't heal. And has a weak offense because it's player phase only.
At the beginning you just have... Seth and Franz. And Vanessa, who has WTD for a while anyway. Eirika's pretty much with the pack as you start out, and her only real lagging time is before chapter 16 - don't forget, she has a ton of good supports to make use of as well.Cross game tier list isn't relevant. Relative position in the tier list is. being bottom of high in your game. > Being bottom or middle of mid in your gameI'd rather not. If anyone else wants to jump in feel free, because the open field is where the real debating occurs.