Eurykins

@Bartozio Do not answer this question. Can reveal easy speculation in terms of shot capacity and TP capacity.

At this point, they probably won't. Once I flip, they really won't.

Btw, I still believe in the Marth lynch. I'm dead. This is a fact. -1 Townie. I want to see a scum lynch today. It's the only thing that's going to rectify guaranteed losing 2 townies during N2, unless a doc or other protective role can prevent it.

I am literally tilted that I don't even get to know the player I'm meant to be neighbors with. I literally REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'd in my head when I realized I was neighbors based on FLAVOR, and not knowing who I was even talking to (if they even would talk to me). I will personally hunt down and mercilessly wallpost the fuck out of the person's profile once this game is over with/once I find out who the hell was my neighbor, and I will make them suffer. Mark my words.

No one has posted. No mod post to confirm that it's closed. Pretty sure my neighbor's alive. Don't know if this helps any, since I haven't played or know of EO. But the flavor given is that I'm Flowdia, the advisor. My neighbor was supposed to be someone with the flavor of Princess Gutrune? Was told that I wasn't privy to her "full agenda" which made me suspect a lil' out the gate that I may not have been paired up with another townie.

Well no shit. If Bart shot at me + Scum shot and janitor'd SB, there ya go. Night actions completed, two shots fired. I just so happened to managed to block one of them lmao.

I kinda feel like my neighbor's scum tho. Would give them more reason to be guarded and not type in a neighbor chat to avoid anything slipping, IMO. But IDK. RIP me and my incoming death.

I don't know fully how neighbor topic things generally work though. First time ever being one.

I know it's not clarinets, obviously due to role PM being flipped. Secondly, now that I think about it, it says that us neighbors could continue to speak/use the topic until one of us dies? And I haven't seen a mod post in the topic saying that it's closed, so in that sense, I don't think my neighbor's dead???

And so the mod has answered. Okay, TP is consumed the NIGHT of the action, but they get notified of the delay and action occurs later on the next night. We OK. Well, aside from the fact that I'm going to DIE either way tonight. That part sucks ass.

If you guys want, I can list the flavor of who my neighbor is, but Idk if it'd help any or not. All I can say is whoever the fuck was my neighbor is a dick for not talking to me at all. :(

I am PMing Grace atm. Seeing if there was misread in the text or misunderstanding of when the TP consumption applies.

@Bartozio It says your TP should be consumed upon actual action use. So either you're lying, or something is off in terms of what information I was given in my role PM.

Actually, sad part is. Now that I think about it, whether Bart is scum or not, two townies are dying tonight unless Doc can protect either myself or whatever townsided target is liable to being shot. Just great.

*In case you didn't quite read between the lines: I blocked Bart last night. He was secondary scum read behind Marth. I assumed that it would be a smarter choice to nail him, as opposed to my next read under Clarinets (Marth) and thus harder to predict where my interests would be in, in terms of role action.

*To elaborate on the neighbor: I literally got FLAVOR TEXT AS TO WHO MY PARTNER IS. IDK WHO THE PLAYER SLOT IS. AND THEY'VE SAID JACK SHIT IN THE TOPIC. SO HOORAY BEING A LONELY NEIGHBOR.

So, my role is two part. I'm neighbors with someone. I don't fucking know who, and they haven't said shit all to me this entire game. So I basically got nothing out of it. I was also apparently meant to be a x1 Role delayer, in which case the night action's TP is not consumed, but the action will resolve the second night with the same target. This also means that, if he's pulling a gambit of sorts as scum, two townies are dying tonight. Because any and all actions I block are not considered towards the night count action (so it would not override or conflict with a separate action cast on N2).

I am town, and I'm also the one that apparently saved my own fucking life. Holy fuck.

Well that's just fucking great. Thanks, Bart.

1. More focus = more posts geared towards yours and Boron's post. This is true, mostly due to the fact that you two actually did more than Clarinets. After a while, Clarinet's case just made itself more obvious by the fact that shit all was done in that slot. In other words, I had less to focus/post on Clarinets as the game wore on because Clarinets literally gave me nothing to respond to or counter-points to counter. So inadvertently, I did spend more time looking at you than Clarinets, but that does not mean it shifted my reads any. You were just willing to talk/interact more (which was more than the former slot offered.) 2. Whilest you were secondary (when I first listed that you were), I was conversing with points/counterpoints regarding other issues with you. However, I also did get swept up into the mild 1v1-esque thing with Via, so that also adjusted my focus in some of the later D1 posts. (Plus, work hours really fucking sucked, so that played a part in when I could actually post.) 3. My vote on Shinori originated from RVS vote. I did not vote swap off of him when I mentioned questions to both you and him (and clarinets had a large wagon already at that point), because I wanted answers from both slots (didn't really have a higher priority between you and him, in terms of who I wanted answers from more at the time). Thereafter I resulted into Clarinets, as the next time I was able to post was far into the later parts of the day phase. I did not ever have a serious Shinori vote sitting anywhere. 4. Once again, I beg the question: Why would I force myself to look for alternative wagons or to push alternative wagons? If I have a wagon that I like, and that I want to see the end to, I will stick with it. Also, when the hell did I ever say that I scumread OR wanted Shinori's lynch??? Please quote where I stated that I ever scum read him or wanted him lynched, because in one of my posts, I'm pretty sure I told Shinori, "No I'm not really scum reading you currently." when he asked about what I thought of him. 5. When someone doesn't post content, and basically floats around doing nothing, how much more do you expect me to drone on about him? Clarinets was constantly in any/all read posts I had regarding scum reads, and I argued back and forth with the Via 1v1 regarding the Clarinets wagon/vote/case. If you are claiming that I spent "little time talking about him" in consideration to the bouncing back and forth conversation you and Via had with me (and Boron, to an extent), then you have to realize that the OTHER PARTY WAS FUCKING FLAKING LIKE HELL AND HARDLY RESPONDING. YOU CANNOT EXPECT TWO WAY CONVERSATIONS TO OCCUR WHEN ONE PARTY IS CONSTANTLY ABSENT FROM THE THREAD/CONVO.

How did I even "wagon hop" when I was on Clarinets's case/wagon the entire day phase??? Clarinets remained as my top read all throughout the day. Not once did I list you or even Bartozio- who was part of my priority as well- as ever being higher priority for me at any point last day phase over Clarinets? If my top scum read is one of the main wagons, of course I'm going to support the wagon. Why the fuck would I push for my secondary lynch choice when I had my top lynch candidate as a viable option and the one I wanted most on the chopping block? This point makes zero sense to me.

That night kill target, wtf. Marth The aftermath of late D1 actually makes his slot seem really bad. 1. His most substantial read post that had both me and Clarinets in it- neither of us he seems to have an actual read on? Expresses that he feels as though we're about to hit the "newb lynchbait" with Clarinets (possible scumslip about knowing him being town?), and seems to have a non-commital read on me? (He doesn't say whether I'm scum to him or not- just says that I looked weird or was setting myself up on the Clarinets wagon, etc.) Both notions above make it appear as though he had more issues with my slot than Clarinet's, yet doesn't contest much against Clarinet's wagon (verses my own)? 2. For having thought Omega's actions were looking really scummy (in the following post), he does not pursue or put much effort into the notion. I also find the timing odd (I think the post was made at 11hrs left of the day phase), so either Omega's actions were only scummy based on late D1 posts, or he refrained from actually mentioning a scum read on Omega until late D1, in which the lynch candidacy was leaning towards me vs. Clarinets? He's one of the few Clarinets votes that I actually have an issue with. He seemed wary of it being a newb lynchbait slot, yet didn't really contest against it? Oddly passive, especially when he seemed to be getting pinged by several other player slots (including my own), and if the Omega scum read was not purely reliant on LATE D1 posting, why was it not offered up beforehand? Bartozio I don't know why you'd claim what you did, but I'd rather you hadn't. Especially if you're an investigation role on townside- even if it was meant to assist in clearing my name- you just painted a big ass bullseye on your head. :/ On the other hand, I'm not sure how to feel about the rolespec on SB. I immediately assumed it was a janitor kill (as I'm assuming most other players did in the game), but you lean more towards SB's role triggering instead? (And the theory also relies on there being a doc in this game as well on townside and having blocked the NK target if it wasn't SB.) @Bartozio In the event that SB knew his role would be eliminated post death and would mostlikely have the event occur, why would he not tell us more information regarding his role? Unless you assume it could be flavor-related (which would allow other players who may have knowledge tied to EO to connect the dots potentially) role that required a specific person, item, or ability to occur, and there would be more risk than reward associated with being able to resolve his role without him dying. Weapons @WeaponsofMassConstruction You seem to be scum reading Prims, but I don't see anything within your ISO that even relates to an actual case on him? Most of it seems to be trying to rethrow together me, Shinori, and Prims as a scum team (which would never happen because I cannot exist next to Scum!nori even IRL), but where is the actual case/thought process on his slot? Tbh I also don't understand where the scum read on Shinori came from either. And also, if Bartozio's claim is enough to make you back off of him and consider him townie/not a priority, how does that suddenly make me worse for wear? It's nothing new that he looked at my slot with doubt, since he was one of the main ones to case me in D1, but it's also not alignment indicative that him revealing part of his role (which is the basis of the newer townread on him from your PoV) assumes my slot to be more scummy as a result. Town can and are liable to suspecting other town members if gameplay is questionable and/or they find them worth inspecting. I hold my suspect to Clarinets being a prime example as such, which is why I remained on them for as long as I did. I fucked up on reading a player slot (As did others), and we paid for it with a mislynch. @Sunwoo Never actually looked at your full case on me, but dissecting the points below: 1. Eury also feels less engaged than I recall her being. I don't expect her to make wallposts with this obnoxious software and when she's busy IRL, but she just seems detached and not really getting into the game. Part of this was due to my work shifts the past couple of days. I had to close/open the last few days, which has screwed up my sleeping patterns and availability to actually post as well. In addition, as admitted in other posts, I was having a bit of trouble actually acquiring scum reads, because I understand my own habit of getting caught up on BAD GAMEPLAY (Ie. Clarinet's performance) and reading it directly as it being scummy/anti-town as a result. It is also why I asked a lot of questions and probed for more thoughts early game, because for the most part people were blank slates to me. 2. While she has stated some suspicions of people over her posts (like Clarinets is white noise, Marth's vote feels slightly OMGUS-y), I feel like there hasn't been really a lot of progression. It is kind of the same two people she suspected earlier, and Bartozio whose case on her she found to be questionable. It looks like trying to contribute but not really contributing. This actually correlates to the above notion. Two people pinged me, and it was my logical course of action to focus on those two because they were my strongest pings throughout D1. With most of the other players lingering in the null or null leaning town gray area, I felt like my time was better spent focusing on what was in front of me, as opposed to trying to scatter read the rest of the players. Look at one or two, and then move on once flips occur or once information comes to light. Also feels slightly better than assuming 3/4 of the player base is scum based on honest mistakes or bad gameplay, which is something I know I was pretty infamous for doing in the older games. Granted, this could in turn be seen as tunneling, but I believe it was my best course/means of scumhunting to avoid getting too caught up on other items that are not actually scum tells. (I just quoted those two main chunks from the vote paragraph/post you had on me from D1- if there's anything else I missed, please let me know 'cause that's what I could find via the ISO in regards to your case on me.) Via's vote on me doesn't surprise me, given the last exchange in late D1- though likewise really nothing more to say regarding counterpoints (since I said what I could in the semi 1v1 thing I had with him?). Interested to hear the thoughts on the Omega/boron slots though. Where has Prims been? @Shinori Whoisscum? Anything new in regards to associations based on Clarinet's and SB's flips (in the latter case, a lack thereof)? At this point, Marth is continuing to ping me pretty high on the Radar. I don't consider Bartozio fully in the clear regarding his role (could be any variant of investigation), but I wish he didn't say anything until he had something solid to offer to clear or convict someone, or at least give us something solid to work with. ##Vote: Marth I will likely be around, albeit distracted by some Warhammer: Vermintide 2 or some other game and enjoying my next day off from the hell known as work. Ask away if you need anything from me, or if I missed responding to something, or I'll be back later tomorrow morning if not.

Except I literally didn't vote because of the risk of ED1 24hour or less hammer?? I'm confused, because there are plenty of moments where people back way or don't vote for wagons that have excessive amounts of pressure already on them or PUT THEM AT RISK OF HAMMERING at poor times. This was one of those moments, yet I'm scummy for it??? Okay, I'm going to bed now. As stated before, I MAY NOT BE ON FOR PHASE END. That is the reason why my Clarinet's vote is being made NOW and not LATER. I understand that the vote pressure is on the wagon moreso than ED1, but unlike ED1 it's actually nearing PHASE END and I will remain steady in my course of where my vote/reads lay. I do apologize if I got a bit aggressive or irate @Vi-astra. I felt like most of the points being noted against me were either misunderstandings, or misreps of sorts? Was attempting to remedy any confusion behind my posts/intents/reads/etc. but I may have gotten a headache in the process and I apologize if my tone soured at all. I'll try to be back before phase end. Have a good night guys.

Clarinet's wagon had about 4+ votes on it ED1. Like, within the first 24 Hours of the day phase. The fuck am I going to send someone to near L2/L3 hammer??? Also, you consider me scummy for acknowledging/fully supporting the wagon, but not voting on it to avoid hammering processes in less than 24 hours of Day 1? If you want to say it reads as a verbal vote, Okay? But in all literal senses, I did not actually format a vote BECAUSE of the above reason, which is what you made your post earlier saying I had? Don't understand how any of this is scummy. I commit fully to the wagon and I have since ED1, even if my physical vote wasn't there because of AMPLE pressure. You clearly don't read my posts, do you? They're not even wallposts either... I am putting my money where my mouth has always been in terms of casing/priority. There is no semblence of "Oh she's so scummy by not committing to a wagon, for not counting it as an actual vote, etc. etc", when I've literally stated from ED1 that I LIKE and SUPPORT the CLARINETS WAGON.

I am not feeling well and will attempt to post when I can tomorrow morning after I attempt to get some sleep. ##Unvote ##Vote: Clarinets Depending on how long I remain dead to the world IRL, I may not be back in time for phase end. Putting my vote where my initial top read has stood (and during my attempts to re-read I didn't see much to rectify or remedy it much at all), so I am still fine supporting the wagon. And cut by the fuckin' Shinori. @Shinori No, I'm not really scum reading you currently. I didn't disagree with the votes on Clarinets, albeit an easy sheeping of Prim's case. Regarding secondary scum reads (as Clarinets still sits at the top), I'm not altogether sure tbh. While I found Bartozio's vote on me kinda weird/questionable casing, I am not sure if it's scum/town indicative or not. Could've resulted as a simple misunderstanding of what I had said/posted, or in worst case scenario it was a means of misrepping/mudslinging of sorts- unsure of the interest/intent of what it was meant to do. Marth has felt off with his reactions in general- seeming oddly long-winded with some of his justifications and sometimes those in themselves seem pretty far-fetched or stretched. At times his self-justifications of votes/cases seemed forced and almost artificial, which is what's partially bothering me as well. Weapons... I legit have little memory wrt his actual posts so far this game. He hasn't been a prominent player in my memory thus far, and it sort of bothers me (which is probably why I forgot to ask/send questions his way when I was doing other posts). Omega's overall tone/posting style feels remarkably like the last game I participated in, so I have no issues currently as far as my brain can remember atm. Kokichi (who I failed to realize is SB, wtf) has partially been turning me off in reading his posts because of the RPing style, if I were to be completely honest. Maybe it's being as effective as my wallposts are in deterring people from reading them, but outside of the guarded ED1 claim, I can't really say I retained much read/interest in this slot. So my priorities would probably look like Clarinets >>> Marth >> Bartozio??? (In the event that he intended to mudsling, but I'm having trouble feeling the vibe personally.) Everyone else is kinda off my radar priority currently. Cut by Via, holy hell the ninjas are real. @Vi-astra Please actually quote a post in which I voted Clarinets. Because I'm pretty sure I never voted Clarinets. In fact I should still be sitting on the Shinori RVS-esque vote. Also, when a player slot is basically splashing water everywhere and not actually doing anything, it's fucking distracting as fuck. Townside has done it before, as have scum. Am I certain that it's scum? No. But at the same time it was the most offending slot to me, and the most distracting. To me, inactives and people who constantly do things seemingly antagonistic to the town-side drive of the game (Actively scum hunting and providing actual content) are the biggest obstacles, second only to the actual opposing anti-town team(s). So, in a nutshell, no, I do not have a 100% definitive scum read on this slot. But it reads terrible in terms of not being townie in any sense of the word, and it was performing in an anti-town manner that really does us no good, so it was the closest thing to a hard scum read on any slot that I had at that moment. As of right now, Clarinets has 7 Total posts. Only one has had any sort of reads/comments, and that was the post with her Kokichi vote. Also, it should be noted that, in this post, the only real "scum read" was made on SB, and that was purely based on his RP'ing and vagueness. Everyone else was basically labeled as town or null in the post, which, in the scum-hunting aspect, really doesn't do us much good either? Every other post has basically been an empty post. How is my notion then an exaggeration, when it is exactly what is happening in that slot's ISO?