Ϲharlie Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 In addition, what if we, say, want to steer a topic back on track, but don't want to Report it for being off topic? Reported things tend to get locked much faster than non reported things, and if you don't really want a topic locked, then it's a bit of a hassle. It would be kind of silly sending a report to a Mod that said "Hey, can you post here and tell them to get back on topic", when you could just as easily post saying something like "Hey guys, we should probably head back towards the topic now." I can't speak for anyone else, but politely trying to steer a topic back on course isn't what I would consider minimodding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 In addition, what if we, say, want to steer a topic back on track, but don't want to Report it for being off topic? Reported things tend to get locked much faster than non reported things, and if you don't really want a topic locked, then it's a bit of a hassle. It would be kind of silly sending a report to a Mod that said "Hey, can you post here and tell them to get back on topic", when you could just as easily post saying something like "Hey guys, we should probably head back towards the topic now." I agree with Gustave. In that situation you should probably just say something like, "Hey, let's get back on topic now. *Some on-topic sentence or paragraph*" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tino Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 (edited) Or, since there were comments on such posts recently ("let's get on-topic" posts), simply post something completely on-topic without telling everybody it needs to get on-topic again. Edited December 28, 2008 by Tino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Actually, we're revising the rules, and this is included in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Actually, we're revising the rules, and this is included in them. So, they're rules now? I thought they were guidelines before...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YokaiKnight Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 So, they're rules now? I thought they were guidelines before...? Really thinking about this, does word choice really matter that much? You can still be warned for breaking 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Really thinking about this, does word choice really matter that much? You can still be warned for breaking 'em. But, warning someone for breaking guidelines is not a good idea. Then you will get 60 "zomg i did no breke a rewl" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YokaiKnight Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 (edited) But, warning someone for breaking guidelines is not a good idea. Then you will get 60 "zomg i did no breke a rewl" Then rules they are. EDIT: The way I interpret it, it seems to me like the "they're just guidelines really" part is just emphasis on the whole laid-back thing. If you make a spam post here or there, you're not going to have a shitty record with the staff. But if you're constantly ignoring the rules/guidelines or spit on them, you can expect something to happen to you. Edited December 28, 2008 by YokaiKnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Actually, we're revising the rules, and this is included in them. I'm rather disappointed by this. A rule against telling others to obey the rules. In the real world when you witness a crime and withhold what you saw, or don't take action you can be held accountable. The reasoning behind this rule is basically "because it's annoying," which only doesn't help when people are doing it while TROLLING, so once again we mend the rules to stop people from either doing the right thing or taking away privileges to cater to those who are constantly problems. I have to say I strongly disagree with this decision, and I doubt people who are actually trying to help will follow it. It's fairly obvious when people are trolling and when they are actually trying to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kommissar Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 (edited) In the real world when you witness a crime and withhold what you saw, or don't take action you can be held accountable. Edited December 28, 2008 by Der Kommissar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 My own view is that forum "crimes" aren't as important as real life crimes, so there's no need to hold "regular citizens" accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 (edited) My own view is that forum "crimes" aren't as important as real life crimes, so there's no need to hold "regular citizens" accountable. So now moderators have to solve even small issues that members could have solved? What about if a member misinterpreted a rule and didn't realize what it pertained to and you were explaining they were violating it. Why warrant them for a warning when they didn't realize it was a problem. Honestly there are more productive things the staff could be doing than taking care of EVERY small incident that a good intention member could have solved. Edit: Also to Der, I said "or take action," reporting and taking action are two different things. Edited December 28, 2008 by Cynthia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 My own view is that forum "crimes" aren't as important as real life crimes, so there's no need to hold "regular citizens" accountable. Well...DUH! Of course they aren't as important. But it is impossible to KILL over the internet. I'd say acting like an idiot, and breaking rules is still pretty important... For the internet anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kommissar Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Edit: Also to Der, I said "or take action," reporting and taking action are two different things. No, no they are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 (edited) Depends on how you look at it. Oh and this post seems really useless, but I am just trying to stop a "MY POINT OF VIEW BETTAR THAN URS" pissing contest from DK. Edited December 28, 2008 by Death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kommissar Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 (edited) Yes, you can look at it correctly, or in an asinine and argumentative manner. Incidentally, my view is better, being correct and all. Edited December 28, 2008 by Der Kommissar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Because your opinion is fact, you are a brilliant individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kommissar Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 (edited) Yes. Now you're catching on, Death. Edited December 28, 2008 by Der Kommissar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Yes. Now you're catching on, Death. Let's not be sarcastic this is serious discussion, not the far from the forest section, that applies to you too Death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dies Mori Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 As you can see, all of you in this discussion are in fact minimodding each other, so you may as well add it to the rules anyhow. Personally, I actually have to agree with SS on this--if members feel someone is violating the rules, report them, at least give the moderators an excuse to justify their position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kommissar Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) Let's not be sarcastic this is serious discussion, not the far from the forest section, I'm not being sarcastic. Edited December 29, 2008 by Der Kommissar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Hey guys, let's cut the pissing contest and get back to the topic at hand, or at least some semblance of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Jesus Christ people. I should've locked this earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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