Dr. Tarrasque Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Posted another comment in the vid, can't believe I didn't catch that earlier -_- Edited February 16, 2009 by Levin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) or hurt it, since she doesn't double, making for meh overall damage output. And, of course, there's also her low base. Please take note of the word "somewhat". I also said "give her some effort". Edited February 16, 2009 by Shanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kintenbo Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I like how he tried to say that Hector wasn't all that good, and that Nino is better than Pent and Erk because she joins late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I like how he tried to say that Hector wasn't all that good, and that Nino is better than Pent and Erk because she joins late. ... Do you have the link where I could see this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kintenbo Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 ... Do you have the link where I could see this? It's in the video Nestling posted on this very page. (you have to look back on a few pages of comments) I'm able to identify Kainmaster by his ridiculous hatred for Hector. I knew this guy and his absurdness long before the Lugh hate videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 It's in the video Nestling posted on this very page. (you have to look back on a few pages of comments) I'm able to identify Kainmaster by his ridiculous hatred for Hector. I knew this guy and his absurdness long before the Lugh hate videos. How's it possible to say Hector isn't good and yet like Lilina...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykan12 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) You guys done making fun of an 8 year old ADHD kid on a sugar high who has too much internet access? Exaggerations aside, this level of fanboyism isn't anything new. The only thing interesting about it is he's making videos trying to support his biased opinion. Edited February 16, 2009 by Vykan12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 You guys done making fun of an 8 year old ADHD kid on a sugar high who has too much internet access?Exaggerations aside, this level of fanboyism isn't anything new. The only thing interesting about it is he's making videos trying to support his biased opinion. Not really. Its fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) I literally facepalmed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvUcBGVzrJo...re=channel_page This video is totally relevant to the title. I swear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoEpsOM3rdQ...re=channel_page Edited February 17, 2009 by Shanam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I tried watching the first but I just couldn't do it. ALL characters that's females are ALWAYS hated indeed. Funny how he mentions Serra, Lalum, and Clarine as characters that are hated when they're generally considered good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykan12 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Never mind what I said before, this guy is hilariously stupid. Here's another joyride: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciHBgleukng...re=channel_page Maybe my messages will get through to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) Maybe my messages will get through to him. Protip: fight trolls with trolling. It's more fun that way. Edited February 17, 2009 by dondon151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nestling Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 What really is odd is that people are AGREEING with him. Truly, since I don't have a Youtube account, who said that you should "aim" for averages. They exist to compare characters. For characters with sucky averages, you are gonna WANT to go over the averages. <3. Misinformed Youtuber is misinformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykan12 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 What really is odd is that people are AGREEING with him. Actually I'm pretty sure he just deletes every comment he doesn't like. I've already received "pending approval" on my messages, which I didn't have before. Protip: fight trolls with trolling. Heh, might do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nestling Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Actually I'm pretty sure he just deletes every comment he doesn't like. I've already received "pending approval" on my messages, which I didn't have before. In that case, the video shouldn't have so many comments Even though I still see your comments on there <3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Hey, its fun to point out to others that the guy is dumb. Let's find more of his videos and do it there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 However, averages cover the most likely outcome I don't think this is always entirely correct, btw. The most likely outcome is the mode. An average is the midpoint of all data - 50%, a unit will get higher x, 50%, a unit will get lower. Of course, they are roughly equal in most cases due to the linear nature of bases + growths, like Matthew's 18/0 Skl mode is 10, while his average is 10.4). The exception is of course when a stat gets chances to cap, like Lyn's Spd at 17/0 has an average of 18.3, but the mode is 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) EDIT: Nevermind. Edited February 17, 2009 by Chainey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwolf_UK Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 What I said is I find it amazingly hard to believe that Lilina can OHKO anything ever. Thank goddness there was once a time when I actually took screenshots Now do you? I'll pull some numbers out of thin air. Lets assume the following: -The enemy has 38 HP and 4 res. That means aircalibur alone used on a 0 magic unit would be doing 20 damage...meaning Lilina has 27 magic...meaning the lowest possible level she could be is level 5. Its plausable all I know is she ended the playthrough like this: Thing is the next Lilina I used ended up better... 13 levels apart and looking much better unless they only gain 1 point of speed in 13 levels . OMG RNG is random aside. Clearly the damage done was overkill so we ask What would Lugh need to do to get the same result (enemy dead). -Enough speed to double it (cons: this uses two uses of the spell) -18 magic I suppose you're thinking "so what? I could give a Wendy a knight killer and triangle attack some crappy cavalier to death"...but you did say "can OHKO anything ever". Nothing about not using "effective against" weapons ;) If you outlaw those you might as well outlaw critical hits...if we're going that far the question should be, can anyone OHKO anything ever? If that is the case Lilina being able to do it or not is irrelivent or we start to talk about ORKO which is impossible since Lilina will never double anything ever Hey, its fun to point out to others that the guy is dumb. Let's find more of his videos and do it there too. Nothing like a witch hunt. If anything that is going to ingrain their oppinions more. If the community has gotten to the point that we're going on youtube and gamefaqs crusades to hammer down nails that stick out I'm not sure I want to be part of a community like that. What am I saying. Don't barge in with "you're a retard as your patehetic attempts to prove good character is bad show" and I'm not sure the whole stat averages thing is going to work either. Given the person likes Nino for coming late all I can think is the like the idea of a unit getting multiple level ups a map and tonnes of EXP per hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Blah blah blah.If you outlaw those you might as well outlaw critical hits...if we're going that far the question should be, can anyone OHKO anything ever? More blah blah blah. Sain can OHKO guys without criticals or effective weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Nothing like a witch hunt. If anything that is going to ingrain their oppinions more. If the community has gotten to the point that we're going on youtube and gamefaqs crusades to hammer down nails that stick out I'm not sure I want to be part of a community like that.What am I saying. Don't barge in with "you're a retard as your patehetic attempts to prove good character is bad show" and I'm not sure the whole stat averages thing is going to work either. Except that his opinions can potentially misinform people. "This character is good because she is given two angelic robes and an Energy Ring" then shown to only survive because of lucky RNG rolls that makes the enemy miss twice is a much bigger problem than disagreeing with averages.The other video shown also disrespectfully portrays the other side as morons, so there is no reason to side with him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykan12 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I don't think this is always entirely correct, btw. The most likely outcome is the mode. An average is the midpoint of all data - 50%, a unit will get higher x, 50%, a unit will get lower. Of course, they are roughly equal in most cases due to the linear nature of bases + growths, like Matthew's 18/0 Skl mode is 10, while his average is 10.4). The exception is of course when a stat gets chances to cap, like Lyn's Spd at 17/0 has an average of 18.3, but the mode is 20. Yeah yeah, I know. It's kinda difficult to explain why averages are valid measuring tools in a comparison when youtube only gives me 500 characters to work with >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I believe the best explanation I've read was that the mode, for example, only takes in account the most common result (which can be as little as like 19% of all results, or even less), while the average takes into account all possible results in a fair way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodykitty Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I would have no problem using more common results over more fair ones (or rather both for more in-depth comparisons), it's just that this information is not easily available right now. What I really should start doing is using stat variance in averages and comparing RNG screwed vs. RNG screwed characters and RNG blessed vs. RNG blessed characters as well, to take into account different situations that may occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Already happens. The problem with "most common" is that it is nowhere near the majority of the cases unless the stat is close to capping on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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