Ranger Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 When I got lyn to lvl 20 unpromoted. she had 2 defence! So 1 hit, and she's dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nestling Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Well, she IS pretty much like Myrmidons. Also, she gets about 5-6 DEF on average, so you're not too RNG hated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitloop Multipuck Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Well, she IS pretty much like Myrmidons.Also, she gets about 5-6 DEF on average, so you're not too RNG hated. Actually, he totally was hated on by the RNG. 20% growth, 19 levels, not a single Defense level-up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Lyn should have six defense at level 20 unpromoted. Which is better than what she has, but still bad. Hopefully your Lyn is great at dodging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 (edited) Yeah, isn't she good at dodging? If not, your Lyndis is doomed. Edited February 13, 2009 by soul1112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Nick Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Wind affinity equals not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kintenbo Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 While she's a quick little lady, she's less than durable. Alas, Hard Mode does not do her good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deity Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 When I got lyn to lvl 20 unpromoted. she had 2 defence!So 1 hit, and she's dead Mine had great defense both hard and normal mode. As to her Resistance, gosh it was terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bros Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 This can't happen she gets a 3 defense bonus when she promotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 This can't happen she gets a 3 defense bonus when she promotes. ...level 20 unpromoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 ...level 20 unpromoted. owned. also, my Lyn has better resistance than defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nestling Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 owned.also, my Lyn has better resistance than defense. Most female characters do (olol not Wendy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 owned.also, my Lyn has better resistance than defense. That probably has to do with Lyn having higher growth in resistance than defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Nick Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Totally off topic, Lyn would probably be a hell of a lot better if her affinity was Anima or Thunder rather than Wind. I mean, her options are fine, her affinity just blows, and Anima already fixes a ton of her problems since now she's dodging somewhat reliably. Edited February 15, 2009 by Sweet Tooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjackal Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Totally off topic, Lyn would probably be a hell of a lot better if her affinity was Anima or Thunder rather than Wind.I mean, her options are fine, her affinity just blows, and Anima already fixes a ton of her problems since now she's dodging somewhat reliably. *points at Kent with his anima affinity* Did I hear his armor just go ding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Nick Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 pfft, who needs no-eyes Lowen, when you have Kent to soak up the damage and own everything with his extra attack, as well?! ...You know, maybe that's WHY Lyn didn't get an affinity that didn't blow chunks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 *points at Kent with his anima affinity* Did I hear his armor just go ding? *points to Sain and Kent's 2 move on Lyn* Did I hear him take damage because of his 7 defense at 11/0, the level that he'll probably show up at when he rejoins the party? pfft, who needs no-eyes Lowen, when you have Kent to soak up the damage and own everything with his extra attack, as well?!...You know, maybe that's WHY Lyn didn't get an affinity that didn't blow chunks. I can't tell if you're sarcastic or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Nick Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Did I hear him take damage because of his 7 defense at 11/0, the level that he'll probably show up at when he rejoins the party? One more level and it's 8. In that time, he could easily form at least a C with theoretical Anima Lyn, making it 9. And it only gets better from there. ...9 def is pretty damn good consider this is still the earlygame. It's not that far behind Ozzy. Edited February 15, 2009 by Sweet Tooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 You can't form supports in Lyn mode. Lol. Also, if Kent's gaining a level in that chapter despite the low enemy density by his starting location, let's give Lowen 2 levels? He faces quite a few more enemies. Kent 12/0: HP: 29 Strength: 10 Skill: 11 Speed: 11 Luck: 4 Defense: 7 Res: 3 Lowen 13/0: HP: 32 Strength: 10 Skill: 8 Speed: 10 Luck: 8 Defense: 11 Res: 3 So, Lowen has 3 HP, 4 Luck, and 4 Defense on Kent, while Kent has 3 Skill and 1 Speed on Lowen. That one speed is cancelled out by Lowen's higher Con and Higher Luck. So, they dodge about the same and can double the same enemies, but Lowen has a decent durability lead over Kent, and he's partway to an Eliwood C support. Where exactly is Kent winning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Nick Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 You can't form supports in Lyn mode. That's why you form it when Kent's getting his 11th level up in Hector Mode. If you COULD form supports in Lyn mode they'd totally have an A by now. So, Lowen has 3 HP, 4 Luck, and 4 Defense on Kent, while Kent has 3 Skill and 1 Speed on Lowen. That one speed is cancelled out by Lowen's higher Con and Higher Luck.So, they dodge about the same and can double the same enemies, but Lowen has a decent durability lead over Kent, and he's partway to an Eliwood C support. Where exactly is Kent winning? yes, because earlygame is the only portion that matters, ever. Check on them when Lyn/Kent gets to A, and it's not out of the question for Kent to start building a B support with Heath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 KentxLyn C takes a few chapters considering move differences, EliwoodxLowen C is painfully slow (again, move differences), and KentxHeath C is not happening till lategame, if at all. Reikken's not exaggerating when he complains that this game's supports are SLOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 That's why you form it when Kent's getting his 11th level up in Hector Mode.If you COULD form supports in Lyn mode they'd totally have an A by now. yes, because earlygame is the only portion that matters, ever. Check on them when Lyn/Kent gets to A, and it's not out of the question for Kent to start building a B support with Heath. Lol? It takes Kent 27 turns to level up? If they spent 75 turns next to each other, maybe. If we're talking about REALITY, though... Except that Lyn/Kent will never get to A. Sain/Kent will. MAYBE Lyn can score a B with Kent by, like, Cog of Destiny. Let's check back in at, say, chapter 20, OK? Let's be generous and say that Kent somehow caught up to Lowen during the Pirate slaughterfest, or something, though Lowen can tank through that and get so many more kills than Kent. 19/0 Lowen w/ Steel Sword (C Eliwood): HP: 38 Strength: 13 Skill: 10 Speed: 12 Luck: 11 Defense: 14 Res: 5 Attack Speed: 12 Avoid: 40 Accuracy: 102 w/o WTA Critical: 7 Critical Evade: lol 19/0 Kent w/ Steel Sword (C Sain): HP: 35 Strength: 14 Skill: 15 Speed: 15 Luck: 5 Defense: 9 Resistance: 5 Attack Speed: 14 Avoid: 34 Accuracy: 109 w/o WTA Critical: 9 Critical Evade: lol Lowen wins defensively by 3 HP, 5 Defense, and 6 Avoid (the difference between being 2 and 3 rounded, might I add). Kent wins Accuracy by 7 (lol), Attack Speed by 2 (kind of important), Critical by 2 (lol) and Attack by 1 (lol). Lowen's fairly large defensive wins > Kent's slight Attack Speed win. The only things that Lowen might not double would be Mercenaries, which, IIRC, this chapter has none of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Nick Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Except that Lyn/Kent will never get to A. You're really exaggerating the drasticness of 75 turns. 19/0 Kent w/ Steel Sword (C Sain): whut? where does Sain come into this? We're not debating Kent>Lowen. We're debating Kent with a theoretical Anima Lyn support>Lowen, and before that Lyn sucking significantly less. Cutting out Kentx Anima Lyn support altogether defeats the entire purpose. Edited February 15, 2009 by Sweet Tooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 You're really exaggerating the drasticness of 75 turns.whut? where does Sain come into this? We're not debating Kent>Lowen. We're debating Kent with a theoretical Anima Lyn support>Lowen, and before that Lyn sucking significantly less. Cutting out Kentx Anima Lyn support altogether defeats the entire purpose. pfft, who needs no-eyes Lowen, when you have Kent to soak up the damage and own everything with his extra attack, as well?! Seems pretty Lowen vs. Kent to me. Specify next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Nick Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 If you had read a post up from that one you'd have seen why I made that post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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