Junkhead Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 It's just that meaning Lance could double ealier isn't much when it comes to Hard Mode. There are fighters at Ch 1 with around 7 AS while Lance bears 8 AS, Alan will do +2 more damage, has more Def/HP but neither will be doubling. The only thing Lance is doubling are archers and LOLdiers (Which everyone that isn't base level Bors is doubling). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffe Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 It's just that meaning Lance could double ealier isn't much when it comes to Hard Mode. uh, yeah it is. There are fighters at Ch 1 with around 7 AS while Lance bears 8 AS, Alan will do +2 more damage, has more Def/HP but neither will be doubling. Everyone knows Marcus is the only one doubling in C1. And that chapter really is just Marcus standing in the middle with an iron sword and getting the fighters down to like 2 hp so the cavs & Roy can kill them. +2 damage doesn't mean that much. Allen only has +1 hp and they tie def The only thing Lance is doubling are archers and LOLdiers (Which everyone that isn't base level Bors is doubling). Allen needs +3 spd to double C1 archers, Lance only needs 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Sounds fair. A bit of EXP gain for Marcus without him getting the kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 Sounds fair. A bit of EXP gain for Marcus without him getting the kill. You cant live without Marcus in hard mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted March 12, 2010 Author Share Posted March 12, 2010 You didnt play hard mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luftwaffe Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Marcus isn't essential on hard mode but you would have to be a complete idiot to not use him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted March 12, 2010 Author Share Posted March 12, 2010 Soul Yeah you can just use him up to chapter 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel M Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Honestly, you can feel the difference between not using Marcus vs. using Marcus. Even playing Chapter 1 you'll feel more of a challenge without him. If it wasn't for fetching Lugh (which I sort of regret), I would've cleared Chapter 3 a bit faster. Instead it took me 15 turns just to do it (which ticked me off). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salad Utensil Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Honestly, you can feel the difference between not using Marcus vs. using Marcus. Even playing Chapter 1 you'll feel more of a challenge without him. If it wasn't for fetching Lugh (which I sort of regret), I would've cleared Chapter 3 a bit faster. Instead it took me 15 turns just to do it (which ticked me off). Technically, that is the limit for maximum # of turns for that chapter for S rank in FE6. Maybe the ranks aren't as lenient as everyone kept thinking...or that they just assumed that no one would use Marcus in HM to create a challenge like I'm doing now >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Noah. I tried using one of the two in the poll before, but they disappointed me. Noah however, he's doing well for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardan Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Noah. I tried using one of the two in the poll before, but they disappointed me. Noah however, he's doing well for me. use both. cav is a great class and their supports make them significantly better. with that said, I prefer lance due to higher speed and the alan x lance support fixes his problems moreso then they fix alan's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 You didnt play hard mode My mistake, you need him for weakening enemies with high HP such as Fighters. And Noah sucks, he's all bases and Skill, Treck's bases aren't that much lower, Treck is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 My mistake, you need him for weakening enemies with high HP such as Fighters. And Noah sucks, he's all bases and Skill, Treck's bases aren't that much lower, Treck is better. Yeah the same in hard mode He weakens the fighters with 30 hp and then someone like Alan, Roy or Lance kill the fighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 But I do't think fighters earlygame have that much HP earlygame...hmm, but it must be that Alan & Lance just did better there, so Marcus isn't really needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 In Hard mode they have 30 - 35 hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 And I did state over 30 HP before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 I love how Kai refuses to believe that Soul's played or even knows anything about HM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 (edited) I'm hardcore. I don't use either. Probably enjoy soloing with Marcus. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. It's just that meaning Lance could double ealier isn't much when it comes to Hard Mode. There are fighters at Ch 1 with around 7 AS while Lance bears 8 AS, Alan will do +2 more damage, has more Def/HP but neither will be doubling. The only thing Lance is doubling are archers and LOLdiers (Which everyone that isn't base level Bors is doubling). I never could understand why Soldiers have worse speed than armored knights. I suppose the designers want to make them easy exp for your weaker units...I guess. My mistake, you need him for weakening enemies with high HP such as Fighters. Treck's bases aren't that much lower, Treck is better. That is a headache to get in the HM. In Hard mode they have 30 - 35 hp It's even worse in the later chapters with them being in the 40ish HP. ---- As for Alan or Lance? I prefer to use both. Edited April 16, 2010 by Ayanami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inui Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 lol @ someone saying they can live without Marcus in hard mode Marcus's presence in Chapter 1 might be the most significant of any unit ever in a single chapter. He probably shaves off like 15 turns just by doing some stuff. Then his presence up until Chapter 9 or so is very significant since he has 8 Mov + great stats + axes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 lol @ someone saying they can live without Marcus in hard mode Marcus's presence in Chapter 1 might be the most significant of any unit ever in a single chapter. He probably shaves off like 15 turns just by doing some stuff. Then his presence up until Chapter 9 or so is very significant since he has 8 Mov + great stats + axes. Wrong. Sigurd in the Prologue of FE4 probably wins that award. He's the only unit who can double and kill, not to mention that he has ridiculous move and canto. If you used Sigurd only to seize in that chapter, forget about saving half of the villages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inui Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 (edited) I should have narrowed that down to GBA. My bad. Edited April 16, 2010 by Inui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 I should narrowed that down to GBA. My bad. Then I say Seth just because Seth is epic from start to finish while Marcus is shit past Chapter 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inui Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Seth's presence in any given chapter in terms of turn-shaving doesn't compare to Marcus at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Seth's presence in any given chapter in terms of turn-shaving doesn't compare to Marcus at all. I disagree. Seth is a positive throughout the entire game. He rapes the earlygame even moreso than Marcus and is actually decent at the end with Vidofnir. Marcus is "good" in the first 6 chapters and then starts to suck horribly once the Lycia Alliance Army arrives on the isles. If you honestly think that being good for the first 1/4 of a game and then being terrible for the rest is better than raping the first 1/2 of the game and being good for the second half of the game, gimme whatever you're smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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