-Cynthia- Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 (edited) Militaries tend not to take every report they hear to heart, so if Kamilla goes "Some people did some stuff and are leaving the city. Kamilla want bacon!" Which would be in line with how she's been acting lately, then I doubt they're going to pay attention. Also, I bet we'd be out of the city before they mobilized. I might be biased since this Elysisman solider drama has been boring and I'd like to move on to something else. Your abuse of the no killing PCs (and unwritten must try to recruit people's characters) rule is also getting tiresome, we essentially have to let obvious spies into the group at every turn. It would be nice if people didn't make characters whose goals were opposite from the group at the point of character creation. Edited June 11, 2010 by -Cynthia- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 (edited) @ Cuddles More specifically ... Her memories aren't gone(no time gaps), just replaced with new one and a mind rape headache. She remembers killing the attackers. Ixion erased the part about them possessing crimson weapons. The only thing she remembers directly related to the group is Chase's name(Ixion didn't mess with her past, but he did erase his face from her memories). If she speaks to Conrad about it, things will be confusing as hell for awhile, but Ixion's only goal was to detour her from attacking the group. That was all. Short term plan to give them time to get out of Ilyphina un opposed. @ Cynthia Heath and Vaida would like to say hi. But seriously, there was nothing wrong with the idea of opposed characters until the situation was taken out of our hands. Could we have gone about it better? Sure, but live and learn, and stop complaining about it perhaps? Edited June 11, 2010 by Phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Would amnesia be a better example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Nady's only ruining the chance of him joining within a reasonable timeframe by now. He might not join at all until demons break completely loose at the rate she's going. I'm not sure if she's missing the point of ulterior motives or what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 She's only making a point It would be highly unorthodox for him to appear out of no where and join *Waits for Rein to say i missed the point* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 To be honest, you did... he would've joined with several conditions, deals, etcetera, but Nady's making it worse. Probably on purpose by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanami Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Hmm? If I remember correctly, the group was supposed to be dangerous enough to send a whole cavalry against :/ And half the cavalry didn't come back, they escaped right outside Ilyphina, and guards are dead all over the place (easy to sneak in). I'd say such a report on a group wanted at the top of their wanted list would warrant some attention. And I can conveniently discard the bacon detail, since Kamilla's more interested in getting revenge on Morgan at the moment. You might be out of the city, but hiding outside Ilyphina isn't exactly hard :/ And all I need to add is that they're "trying to leave now" and that should speed up the process (though most likely less units) @Rein, You're an idiot. There's hardly any way I'm going to believe Conrad joining the group unless one of the following things happen. -He resigns from the military -Elysimma gets destroyed (in effect removed from military) -We have a few platoons of soliders travelling with the group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Its all because of his status I was expecting the axe wielder to be some sort of bandit :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Heath would like to say hi. Heath switches sides as soon as he starts interacting with the group, so his goals are no longer opposed. Bad example. But seriously, there was nothing wrong with the idea of opposed characters until the situation was taken out of our hands Yes there was. There's no reason to recruit them in the first place and keeping them around defies in-character logic. Could we have gone about it better? Sure, but live and learn, and stop complaining about it perhaps? You're the one complaining that we can't recruit Viveka. I guess I am complaining that we have to haul Kamilla around for entirely OOC reasons. Those who make incogruent character backstories need to learn that those people are going to become NPCs or very implausible PCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy_One Posted June 11, 2010 Author Share Posted June 11, 2010 Working on next chapter ATM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 "Wait, that can't be completely right about the blue eyes thing. I have blue eyes..." Chase interjected Aren't they brown in the mug? Did you just not update it or...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 @ Cynthia I also threw Vaida in there as well in the edit. It's not a bad example. You're the one complaining about characters. I'm only petitioning Cuddles to take it easier on us so we can recruit our characters under reasonable circumstances if at all. There's no way Viv's becoming an NPC. I'll god mod if Cuddles forces my hand. Right now, I'm being patient -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 @Rein, You're an idiot. There's hardly any way I'm going to believe Conrad joining the group unless one of the following things happen. -He resigns from the military -Elysimma gets destroyed (in effect removed from military) -We have a few platoons of soliders travelling with the group. You're also missing some things. -Eliyisma is seriously threatened. -Demons are breaking loose. -He's ordered to by Harold (unlikely, but still possible if he comes into contact with Katie and figures out what the group's doing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Idea Why dont we dismiss the idea of Conrad being a crimson weapon wielder? The only person to see it was Chase We can say that he saw wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Aren't they brown in the mug? Did you just not update it or...? I don't know how to and can't because, well, I'm on a Mac. Someone else made it for me and I'd rather not go through the trouble of fixing it. That would be boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanami Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 @Hauling Kamilla around The thing is, she's not the only one with crappy reasons for staying with the group. As Morgan says, most of the group that don't have crimson weapons are just excess baggage. I don't want to see a unified hero wannabe troupe running around preaching "We'll all work to defeat the Demon Lord" when there's really no evidence of the demon lord returning. You'd think the Headmaster or other groups (Sages or whatever) would be working to counter such an event and that there'd be alot of movement on the issue. The fact that you can silence Kamilla with "Oh she just had too much to drink." So other then Damian wanting the weapons for some unknown reason. (Greedy Halton) and Morgan insisting that 2012 is coming there's really no reason to believe that there's a demon lord out there at all. Damian/Esphyr/Arrin/Helios/Isotov/Morgan/Chase: CW holders Aiya/Kelas/Irina: Anchored due to family. Are fine. But, Conrad/Viveka: Aren't going to get recruited Katie: Wants to bed Isotov, and be a chef. Tessa: Has nowhere else to go. Kamilla: Is forced/tricked into following the group Eric: Is randomly following the group Cess/Reika/Heinz: All following the group for their own objectives, and the latter two might drop out at any stage. So overall, what's the point/objective of the group? There's no clear path, other then "fighting the demon lord" and "collecting the CW" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 (edited) @ Kai Viveka saw the Earthshaker too, and I just think you're trying to can our characters out of spite. @ Cuddles I guess I'll just have to throw in a huge catastrophe of some sort. No I don't need your help, I'll discuss it with Snowy and some others a bit later. Edited June 11, 2010 by Phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanami Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 (edited) You're also missing some things. -Eliyisma is seriously threatened. -Demons are breaking loose. -He's ordered to by Harold (unlikely, but still possible if he comes into contact with Katie and figures out what the group's doing) -What's Elysimma being threatened by? Other then me-I request citations of such events occuring -Right, go out, all by yourself and tail this group of wanted criminals. Elysimma has shitloads of generals anyway, we can do without you. @Kai's idea Surprisingly, I can agree with this, I refuse to believe the possibility of other magical weapons existing, and can easily see people mistaking Earthshaker as a CW. Furthermore, Rein already has a CW :/ Edited June 11, 2010 by Kanami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Rule the world? Purge the land of evil? Make friends? I got no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Gotta catch em all Go Damian Use Poke on Reika Damian hits for 200 damage Reika used flamethrower Damian was KO'd Go Helios Use HAX Reika has one HP Kai used a master ball (lol) Reika was captured *Pokemon captured music* Uh what i mean dont pay any mind to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 *sigh* ... there's no more love in this rp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 WRT Vaida 1. Her recruitment doesn't make much sense "You saved Zaphiel so imma join you guys despite working for the Black Fang earlier" Hector/Eliwood: OK? 2. She approaches the group and asks to join, not waiting around for convincing reasons to pick her up. Cess is interested in the Crimson Weapons, so he makes sense. Tessa really likes to help people, so her randomly joining people to help people makes some sense. Eric wants to travel around to find his friends and we make a convenient protection vehicle or something. Don't get me started on Katie, and Kamilla's recruitment and reason for staying was pretty non existent (which you could have tried to make easier, for example have her offer to join and be a spy or something). The others haven't actually joined, so meh. I just think that when you make a character, you should try and think of a reason for them to join and stay with the group, rather than try and have other people think of crappy reasons for you. It ends up breaking in-chracter logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanami Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Rule the world? Purge the land of evil? Make friends? I got no clue. The group aren't going to rule the world, and while fame is a possible reason, I have yet to see 'demons appearing.' And before people start going "Mesh" "Shanice" etc. The mesh could be considered a magical accident, and Shanice has most likely been around doing stuff for the last 25 years. His appearance now doesn't really indicate demons reappearing. Don't need righteous, "I am JUSTICE" type characters IMO, though a character that plays on that idea to the extreme might be an amusing addition. Make friends? Well, I suppose that's Chase/Tessa's reasons for joining, but I'm not going to get along with the group considering my personality, and the fact that half the RP'ers have their own personal agenda's against me. That and they ignore Kamilla (and most likely Reika) unless I do something extreme which they have to react to. I have no clue either :P I'm not a idea creator, I'm a destroyer XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy_One Posted June 11, 2010 Author Share Posted June 11, 2010 (edited) Curse accidental clicks of reply instead of edit! Edited June 11, 2010 by Snowy_One Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy_One Posted June 11, 2010 Author Share Posted June 11, 2010 Wait a moment Naddy. You mean the group seems like a random hodge-podge of people who have gotten together for various reasons and few of them have clear over-arching goal? *gasp* Wait. Haven't I seen this before? In every American-released FE? Katie did have a reason. The moment it started though, we got caught up in this mess when Iso blew up the inn at which point she got accused along with everyone else. So up till now, she's been a tag-along. Though I suppose she doesn't have an overt reason to continue now that she's cleared... Except now they're finally going after the damned Mesh which she wanted to investigate from the get-go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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