Tables Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Zihark can talk to Lethe or Mordecai in 3-6 and become an enemy unit. If he does so, his army still stays as the Daein Army, so you have Daein Army units as Player, Allied, and Enemy units. If he is killed at this point, he dies, rather than just retreating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR8MasterGab96 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 and he'd be dead without it =p ranulf's and ulki/janaff's satori sign's are the only items in the game that characters come with but cant use. No. If you did not train tormod, in part 4 he comes with an Arcfire (or meteor im not sure)that he cant use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerachi Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 No. If you did not train tormod, in part 4 he comes with an Arcfire (or meteor im not sure)that he cant use. He can always use arcfire and meteor. It's bolganone he can't use and even then this doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 and he'd be dead without it =p ranulf's and ulki/janaff's satori sign's are the only items in the game that characters come with but cant use. He can always use arcfire and meteor. It's bolganone he can't use and even then this doesn't count. Why wouldn't it count? He "comes with" it, doesn't he? The quote never said that it was in their "first appearance" or when they "first show up" or anything like that. Granted, he can sometimes use it, either through transfer bonuses (doesn't even need 20/20, since weapon rank bonuses happen regardless and while his starting C in PoR gives him 40 bonus points only gets him 40 out of 70 to hit s rank, you could have gotten a B for him or you could attack 15 times in part 1 with elfire or 30 with fire/forge or 15 times with fire/forge and discipline) or attacking a lot of times in part 1 (18 times with elfire + discipline). Actually, I'd wager that most players will have Tormod unable to use Bolganone in 4-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Zihark can talk to Lethe or Mordecai in 3-6 and become an enemy unit. If he does so, his army still stays as the Daein Army, so you have Daein Army units as Player, Allied, and Enemy units. If he is killed at this point, he dies, rather than just retreating. I never knew that. Mostly because i never got to Lethe or Mordy on that map. NEAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Why wouldn't it count? He "comes with" it, doesn't he? The quote never said that it was in their "first appearance" or when they "first show up" or anything like that. Granted, he can sometimes use it, either through transfer bonuses (doesn't even need 20/20, since weapon rank bonuses happen regardless and while his starting C in PoR gives him 40 bonus points only gets him 40 out of 70 to hit s rank, you could have gotten a B for him or you could attack 15 times in part 1 with elfire or 30 with fire/forge or 15 times with fire/forge and discipline) or attacking a lot of times in part 1 (18 times with elfire + discipline). Actually, I'd wager that most players will have Tormod unable to use Bolganone in 4-4. I wouldn't "count" it, because he can use it on occasion, whereas ranulf/ulki can never use their satori signs. Also, someone's probably said this but, the Black Knight is the only useable character that is not available for endgame unless you hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 I wouldn't "count" it, because he can use it on occasion, whereas ranulf/ulki can never use their satori signs. Also, someone's probably said this but, the Black Knight is the only useable character that is not available for endgame unless you hack. A big factor there is that you kill him in 4-E-2. As in, you kill him dead. PoR Mordecai HP-150 STR-65 MAG-0 SKL-55 SPD-50 LCK-40 DEF-40 RES-20 RD Mordecai HP-90 STR-35 MAG-10 SKL-25 SPD-15 LCK-80 DEF-45 RES-15 Explanation plz, Idiot Systems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 A big factor there is that you kill him in 4-E-2. As in, you kill him dead. PoR Mordecai HP-150 STR-65 MAG-0 SKL-55 SPD-50 LCK-40 DEF-40 RES-20 RD Mordecai HP-90 STR-35 MAG-10 SKL-25 SPD-15 LCK-80 DEF-45 RES-15 Explanation plz, Idiot Systems? the 5% def growths and 40% luck make all the difference :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachy Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 ^and the 10% magic growth :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Poleax Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Calill and Tormod can double auras with Rexflame, White Pool and 31/32 speed. Sanaki can also but she needs 13 strength (her average is 9.6) and 31/32 speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 The only two paladins that can double the spirits without pools in endgame are Mist and...Fiona. Thanks IS. Thanks a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 The only two paladins that can double the spirits without pools in endgame are Mist and...Fiona. Thanks IS. Thanks a lot. while it's not her average to be there, she can use parablossom and her cap is 35, Astrid!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 (edited) If you don't get Laura to use the Unlock staff found in 1-F, the only other place you can use it before Part 4, is to transfer it to Ilyana, and open the door to the senator's camp in 3-3. Even though you could just have Heather open the door or smash it. :/ Edited June 27, 2010 by psychout50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 ...Wow, nice going IS. Come to think of it, how many doors are there in the game? 1-3 1-7 * 4 1-E 2-3 2-E (opened by the enemy) 3-3 4-4 * 3 So there's a total of 12 doors, 5 which could be opened with unlock. So another fact is that the only way to break the Unlock staff is for someone to use 3-5's Corrosion on Laura in 3-7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 I found out it can open chests in 4-4 my last playthrough,so that's kinda cool. So now you got all the ones in 4-4, and 4-E-1. Only what makes no sense, is you can buy another Unlock before you enter the tower should you need to open the chests, only Sothe is forced with you You can only buy the Ward staff before 4-E, and thus, only use it the final chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Dark magic is the only magic not labled for the typeof magic like wind and elwind, instead it is worm and carreau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Light isn't either, it has Shine instead of Arclight. If you kill an aura with the second hit from a brave weapon, you take no recoil damage for the first hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Light isn't either, it has Shine instead of Arclight. If you kill an aura with the second hit from a brave weapon, you take no recoil damage for the first hit. i only said basic and el magics =p. all of the second chapters of P4, 4-3,4-4 and 4-5 have recruitable units that you need to talk to, stefan, oliver and volke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 No, you said 'like' basic an el- tomes. Implying arc- tomes count as well, as they're like those in their pattern. Although that's an oddity in itself, Light follows the normal pattern right down to having rexaura, but then has Shine instead of arclight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 No, you said 'like' basic an el- tomes. Implying arc- tomes count as well, as they're like those in their pattern. Although that's an oddity in itself, Light follows the normal pattern right down to having rexaura, but then has Shine instead of arclight. yeah haha, light is probly weirder b/c of that. Ulki has more feminane stats than jannaff, typically females in FE10 have more speed, skill and res while males have more str and def. Ulki also wears something that looks like a kilt O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Laguz have learned how to punch and kick. However, the Royals are being jerks and they're not sharing this advanced technology with the Beorcs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Also, untransformed laguz can somehow injure/kill people by punching/kicking through their armor (if they have any). Without hurting themselves. And for anyone who thinks that last bit is unnecessary, go punch a wall as hard as you can. I dare you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 That felt pretty painful. You can let Rafiel be defeated in 1-8 and he'll still be available for 1-E. Or something like that, I forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 That felt pretty painful. You can let Rafiel be defeated in 1-8 and he'll still be available for 1-E. Or something like that, I forget. I think 3-11 Leanne works the same way. Or maybe it was part 2 Leanne. something like that, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 That felt pretty painful. You can let Rafiel be defeated in 1-8 and he'll still be available for 1-E. Or something like that, I forget. 1-8 or 1-E is available in P4, it's pretty weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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