Shin Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) Hello, I see the problem. Currently Fin's love base is 150+4 with Ayra, meaning that after roughly 90 turns they'll pair up. Since they've got chapters 1 and 2 together, it's entirely possible they'll fall in love by sitting next to each other if you take too long. However, to let people play at the speed they want, I'll tweak the numbers so it doesn't happen by accident. Here's my current to do list; Finish chapter 10's map Fix the Voltz problem Rebalance Slim Sword Sort out love growths and the jazz Include sword skills in inheritance. Make the paladins stink less Start on final's map/enemies Edit: Woo, I guess I'm not as lazy as I thought! The Voltz problem arose because the Forrest Knight movement type was set wrong :P. Also; Edited March 30, 2013 by Shin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Pot Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) Yeah, Chapter 2 in particular is pretty easy to unintentionally take the full 50 turns on if you arent aiming for speed (ZAINE /shakefist), and Voltz' forest tour didnt help, but glad it was an easy fix. 150 + 4 does seem kinda high though, Fin needs 88 turns without being next to her, while Holyn needs 58 next to her, youd need to finish chapter 1 within 29 turns for Holyn to win. Also, have love points always accrued even with one in the castle? Im certain Fin was only out of the castle the for two turns or so to get the hero lance Edited March 30, 2013 by The Black Pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Also; ooooh boy. Sword skill freedom, this is gonna rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 Yeah, Chapter 2 in particular is pretty easy to unintentionally take the full 50 turns on if you arent aiming for speed (ZAINE /shakefist), and Voltz' forest tour didnt help, but glad it was an easy fix. 150 + 4 does seem kinda high though, Fin needs 88 turns without being next to her, while Holyn needs 58 next to her, youd need to finish chapter 1 within 29 turns for Holyn to win. Also, have love points always accrued even with one in the castle? Im certain Fin was only out of the castle the for two turns or so to get the hero lance Love points build up as long as 2 characters are on the map, even in the castle. However, two units in the castle won't get the extra 5 adjacency points. For Fin and Ayra, I've gone for a more reasonable 200+2. That means you'll have to spend 150 turns with them apart. Which is impossible :P. However, if you really tried you could hook them up in 43. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Pot Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) Ah, I had always interpreted it as meaning they have to actually be on the map and not in the castle to count it. NEVER MIND. And manomanoman, sword skills are gonna be sweeeeet. Im going to need to start over once that comes out Edited March 30, 2013 by The Black Pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 If you're still in gen 1, it should be fine. Your kids will still get any sword skills their parents have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iavasechui Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 XD Damn it Shin now I'm gonna wait for the next patch XD I was about to start too XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 I wish you guys stopped guilt tripping me into releasing... I should try that with Horace and Pokeshin. Link is in the OP, description coming shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Pot Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) If you're still in gen 1, it should be fine. Your kids will still get any sword skills their parents have. I had a free night last night and got everyone paired up :l Totally didn't expect a big change like sword skills. Only Holyn is passing down his skill with my pairings. But not like the game is hurting in replay value anyway Edited March 30, 2013 by The Black Pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vennobennu Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Slim Swords are bugged in the latest version; they have a ridiculous amount of maximum uses, such that repairing a 37-use Slim Sword would cost 63436 gold. Not a major glitch, but it is annoying that it eats up all your money to repair it. The glitch was introduced in 1.9, I'm pretty sure. Anyway, this is a very fun hack all around!. I just restarted my game after finishing Chapter 8 to take advantage of the new 1.9 content. Chapter 8 was toughest at the start when you had to juggle defending against all the powerful enemies coming your way, saving the villages and recruiting Faval; but it lost momentum after that. Blume and his guards weren't much more than a speed bump, and the dragon knights had pitiful accuracy against my frontliners, especially when they moved into the mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iavasechui Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 XD I'm not trying to guilt trip you, I was just teasing you. Though I really am going to wait for the next release now because I want to pass on sword skills for maximum overpoweredness XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 Slim Swords are bugged in the latest version; they have a ridiculous amount of maximum uses, such that repairing a 37-use Slim Sword would cost 63436 gold. Not a major glitch, but it is annoying that it eats up all your money to repair it. The glitch was introduced in 1.9, I'm pretty sure. Anyway, this is a very fun hack all around!. I just restarted my game after finishing Chapter 8 to take advantage of the new 1.9 content. Chapter 8 was toughest at the start when you had to juggle defending against all the powerful enemies coming your way, saving the villages and recruiting Faval; but it lost momentum after that. Blume and his guards weren't much more than a speed bump, and the dragon knights had pitiful accuracy against my frontliners, especially when they moved into the mountains. Yo, the Slim Sword had its uses reduced, if it's repaired whilst over that it'll go crazy. I'll look into chapter 8, I'm sure I can think of something nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vennobennu Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Whoops, didn't even consider that. I think a problem with the end of Chapter 8 is that your characters are starting to promote and cap stats, while the dragon riders' stats aren't particularly good. So there's not much they can do against somebody like Aira with five skills and ~30 speed sitting on a mountain. Though, I'm not sure how you could remedy that short of something like giving them 150 hit lances or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 Well, the growths thing is inevitable. Even if two parents have a growth of 30%, their kids end up with 45%. You only need 15 stat points to cap in FE4, so most kids will be capping stats by 30. Kids with growths in the 60's or 70's will probably be capping around promotion. I could be mean and change the level cap, but I'm sure buffing some of the dragons will help out better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shugey Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Why are Ethlin's growths so horrendous? Seriously, I'm lucky if she even gets HP. I know Gen 1 characters are supposed to have bad growths but it's odd when getting 3 stats is a miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 Ethlin's growths are untouched from vanilla, I'm afraid you've just had a spot of bad luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constable Reggie Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) I know I'm playing an outdated version, but is soldier skills overriding citizen skills intentional? I paired Lachesis with Lex, seeing that Lachesis had innate pursuit, but it got changed to soldier pursuit when she promoted, so Delmud doesn't have it. 6 speed Celice is win Edited April 2, 2013 by Constable Reggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 I know I'm playing an outdated version, but is soldier skills overriding citizen skills intentional? I paired Lachesis with Lex, seeing that Lachesis had innate pursuit, but it got changed to soldier pursuit when she promoted, so Delmud doesn't have it. 6 speed Celice is win Lachesis' Princess pursuit is a class skill, as it is for Master Knight. This means that unless her partner has pursuit as a citizen skill, Delmud and Nanna won't have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constable Reggie Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) Could have sworn it said Lachesis's pursuit (pre-promotion) was citizen. Oh well, it's not that big of an issue. Edited April 2, 2013 by Constable Reggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shugey Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Well this is about the strangest glitch ever. I'm playing Chapter 2 and had Cuan attempt to finish one of the enemy Shamans with his Javelin and he misses. Except after the Shaman dodges it the game freaks out, graphically goes berserk for a second, and freezes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 Well this is about the strangest glitch ever. I'm playing Chapter 2 and had Cuan attempt to finish one of the enemy Shamans with his Javelin and he misses. Except after the Shaman dodges it the game freaks out, graphically goes berserk for a second, and freezes. Could you post the save? I'll look into it, maybe I messed up with some of the animation references. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice el Savior Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I really need to l2r i have been messing around with the settings on SNESoid for about two weeks now trying to get this patch to work. No avail obviously. I really wish there was a version of ZSNES for the Android. Its what I play all of my roms on. I have an Xperia Play, so its pretty awesome, outside of not being able to enjoy Shin's Patch. Im just now recruiting Briggid though and i can honestly say that some of my gripes you seem to address in your changes to this game. im going to have to cave in and play with a keyboard when i finish my run through of FE4, the only REAL complaint I have is how long it takes to actually clash forces. Certain things like "get the bargain ring" are just never going to work out for me it seems and i keep thinking Sigurd is my jeigan practically but I cant stop using him. Too many non stat level ups, i get at least 3 of those per map I think. Other than that im digging everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Mage Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I really need to l2r i have been messing around with the settings on SNESoid for about two weeks now trying to get this patch to work. No avail obviously. I really wish there was a version of ZSNES for the Android. Its what I play all of my roms on. I have an Xperia Play, so its pretty awesome, outside of not being able to enjoy Shin's Patch. Im just now recruiting Briggid though and i can honestly say that some of my gripes you seem to address in your changes to this game. im going to have to cave in and play with a keyboard when i finish my run through of FE4, the only REAL complaint I have is how long it takes to actually clash forces. Certain things like "get the bargain ring" are just never going to work out for me it seems and i keep thinking Sigurd is my jeigan practically but I cant stop using him. Too many non stat level ups, i get at least 3 of those per map I think. Other than that im digging everything else IIRC that usually happens in a clean version of Genealogy. It still takes a bit for the confrontation of armies and there are a couple of bad growths but you gotta keep in mind that both parent's stats go into their children's and the somewhat meh growths were bad to somewhat balance that out. despite children can get broken stats with the right pairings lol And everybody uses Sigurd so that they can get the best base stats for his kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Starwind Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 With the being able to pass down sword skills does that mean the character can use them even if they can't use swords? Like your Lana example had her have a sword skill yet she doesn't use sword (she might in yours I don't recall) so will the sword skill activate for her magic instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 well i suppose being able to activate astra with a healing staff would be cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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