Unicycle Mafia - Pretty Unpleasant Guys win

[General Spoon]

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I NEED ANOTHER SUB.

Let me know if you are interested.

Edited March 10, 2011 by General Spoon

[riariadne]

I'll be two roles.

[eclipse]

##Vote: Obviam

[Haze]

Still lacking claims from Kaoz and Ether. Both need to get in touch with us ASAP.

[General Spoon]

Gaius Frakkin' Baltar has been subbed in for Snike.

[Tables]

Hooray.

I don't want to reread everything again... can someone bring me up to speed with key information?

[eclipse]

Vote Obviam.

[Aleph]

No dammit >:{

[Haze]

Hooray.

I don't want to reread everything again... can someone bring me up to speed with key information?

Life and myself are leading the town, Eclipse is the Announcer, Obviam is filthy scum.

[Aleph]

Haze you're pretty much guaranteed to be Pretty Unpleasant

anyway

Sorry for tricking you bastards

showtime~

So I had this idea the other day when Laze first started their shit.

[spoiler=Balcerzak](8:19:41 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: but balcerzak on a more serious note

(8:19:45 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: I have a super cool idea

(8:20:04 PM) Balcerzak: I'm listening

(8:20:25 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: the catch is it requires you to be on my team

(8:20:37 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: I am basically going off of percentages here

(8:20:46 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: there's more townies than mafia so a random person I pick is probably town

(8:21:12 PM) Balcerzak: that sounds a fairly logical, though incredibly risky approach

(8:21:29 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: not even nearly as logical and risky as my idea

(8:21:47 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: unrelated, I had a stupid idea the first mafia game I played

(8:21:52 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: I can't remember what it was

(8:21:54 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: but it was something like

(8:22:00 PM) Balcerzak: hmm, well, since I am in fact a Terrified Local, perhaps your mad schema might see the light of day

(8:22:03 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: "everyone vote for the person with the name below you on the player list" or something

(8:22:05 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: and I was tihnking

(8:22:13 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: if everyone did it, we'd know for sure certain things

(8:22:16 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: and be able to win easy

(8:22:23 PM) Balcerzak: oh, that's kind of like politician popping on epic mafia,

(8:22:26 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: I think someone said "that would be boring and cheating"

(8:22:26 PM) Balcerzak: but with a slight twist

(8:22:37 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: and I think that person turned out to be mafia

(8:22:41 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: I have a stupid idea right now

(8:22:45 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: that might be "cheating"

(8:22:51 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: but it would be a huge gamble

(8:24:31 PM) Balcerzak: I'm looking over the rules, and trying to imagine what might be "cheating"

(8:24:39 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: not really chetaing

(8:24:40 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: just really

(8:24:41 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: really

(8:24:41 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: gay

(8:24:48 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: okay

(8:25:07 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: you know how Haze basically posted that BS claim he got about me

(8:25:16 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: I don't know if you saw

(8:25:19 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: but he voted for me for it

(8:25:19 PM) Balcerzak: Indeed, the one painting you as a stalker?

(8:25:26 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: whatever that was

(8:25:51 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: I tried to explain to him how it was stupid and he seems to agree with me now, but I'm not sure if that's because he's really innocent or if he thinks he fucked up trying to get my mislynched

(8:25:53 PM) Balcerzak: Let's just say, two failed lynches in, town leaders are not doing themselves the best of favors

(8:25:58 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: but here's the stupid part

(8:26:06 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: there's 2 mafias right?

(8:26:10 PM) Balcerzak: yes

(8:26:17 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: so what if I went along with it

(8:26:22 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: and said "all other mafia claim to me"

(8:26:34 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: in some kind of spectacular martyrdom

(8:26:44 PM) Balcerzak: that could be pretty fucking awesome

(8:26:46 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: and then if people start lynching me for it and it looks like I won't make it

(8:26:53 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: anyone who claims to me, I can tell you who they are

(8:27:06 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: so it won't be a complete loss

(8:27:34 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: is that too stupid

(8:27:42 PM) Balcerzak: Right, so since you're a Pretty Unpleasant Guy, you'd love to coordinate with the Antagonistic Individuals,

(8:27:51 PM) Balcerzak: and hopefully they step up to the plate

(8:27:55 PM) Balcerzak: thing is though...

(8:28:03 PM) Balcerzak: if Laze are mafia

(8:28:14 PM) Balcerzak: no way they're letting their sole remaining partner claim to you

(8:28:28 PM) Balcerzak: if Laze aren't mafia, why would they construct the bogus claim?

(8:28:56 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: so maybe it is a stupid idea?

(8:29:41 PM) Balcerzak: let me think about it a bit longer

(8:30:08 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: lul you mean talk to your mafia buddies right

(8:30:10 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: damn I'm unlucky

(8:30:13 PM) Balcerzak: It /could/ be that Laze are from the faction they're painting you to be from

(8:30:26 PM) Balcerzak: in that case, you might round up the other group

(8:30:30 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: hm

(8:30:34 PM) Balcerzak: I think it's still worth a shot,

(8:30:43 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: it could also be that Laze fucked up and really are innocent, and fell for some crap

(8:30:53 PM) Balcerzak: oh...

(8:30:53 PM) Balcerzak: right

(8:30:58 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: not sure myself

(8:31:04 PM) Balcerzak: the "inspector" claim they got was mafia, you mean?

(8:31:04 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: Life is a scary mother fucker though

(8:31:14 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: yeah

(8:31:24 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: that's what haze said

(8:31:26 PM) Balcerzak: yeah, there seem like there are enough plausibilities that your plan could bear fruit

(8:31:33 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: he said he dropped his vote because they might be shitting him

(8:31:53 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: but I realized he probably might just be playing that to get himself out of me being suspicious

(8:32:04 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: well when should I do it

(8:32:08 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: maybe you could put a vote on me

(8:32:20 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: hm...that might make it obvious though

(8:32:44 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: I don't want Haze to know the random guy I picked to tell this idea

(8:32:49 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: in case he is mafia

(8:33:00 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: of course if you're mafia then the plan will backfire

(8:33:24 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: but I figure losing myself won't hurt the town nearly that much but getting potential mafia claims could end the game like NOW

(8:33:26 PM) Balcerzak: so, no voting, just yet?

(8:33:32 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: You know what

(8:33:36 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: I'll leave it up to you

(8:33:39 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: that would be more realistic right

(8:33:44 PM) Balcerzak: yeah

(8:34:18 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: if you do it and I'm like not paying attention, nudge me on IRC or something

(8:34:22 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: I am kinda busy with other stuff lately

Unfortunately, I found out the hard way that I told the wrong person my little plan

[spoiler=Anouleth](6:45:43 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: speaking of which what about you

(6:45:44 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: are you mafia

(6:45:55 PM) Anouleth: no

(6:46:17 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: >_O

(6:46:21 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: you sure

(6:46:31 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: if you're dishonest and it fucks your team over it's all on you

(6:46:51 PM) Anouleth: well

(6:47:02 PM) Anouleth: I suppose if you're going to die anyway...

(6:47:16 PM) Anouleth: we might as well take the opportunity

(6:47:28 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: what opportunity

(6:47:30 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: expound

(6:47:45 PM) Anouleth: to team up

(6:48:04 PM) Anouleth: to get the two teams working together

(6:48:20 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: brilliant

(6:48:29 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: but first I need to know the name of one of your team mates

(6:48:31 PM) Anouleth: after all, we will be down two members once you're gone

(6:48:39 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: and don't say radiant dragon, that won't work

(6:48:53 PM) Anouleth: well, radiant dragon obviously was a teammate

(6:49:06 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: surely you have another one

(6:49:17 PM) Anouleth: now it's just me and balcerzak

(6:49:44 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: crap

(6:49:55 PM) Anouleth: why?

(6:50:08 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: don't give me that shit

(6:50:09 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: you know why

(6:50:11 PM) Anouleth: the teams are 3 each

(6:51:31 PM) Anouleth: at least, we had three people on our team

(6:51:49 PM) Anouleth: I just assumed it was the same for you people

(6:52:20 PM) TheHecks_in_God_Gundam: don't fuck with me anouleth

However, some good came of it

[spoiler=Kaoz](11:35:01 AM) chaosmaster1991: are you there?

(11:35:08 AM) hextator: yes

(11:35:10 AM) hextator: who is this

(11:35:16 AM) chaosmaster1991: this is Kaoz

(11:35:22 AM) hextator: uh who is Kaoz

(11:35:31 AM) chaosmaster1991: I want to talk to you about your post in the SF mafia

(11:35:36 AM) hextator: oh?

(11:35:39 AM) hextator: so you're in the game, then?

(11:35:51 AM) chaosmaster1991: uh yeah

(11:36:04 AM) hextator: lulul

(11:36:05 AM) hextator: go on~

(11:36:09 AM) chaosmaster1991: I apparently did a good job at hiding.

(11:36:28 AM) hextator: I guess? you're a new face as far as I can tell

(11:36:30 AM) chaosmaster1991: ah that's true

(11:36:38 AM) chaosmaster1991: Can you confirm without a doubt that you are mafia?

(11:36:44 AM) hextator: well sure

(11:36:44 AM) hextator: you saw my role PM in the thread

(11:36:54 AM) hextator: what else did you have in mind?

(11:37:30 AM) chaosmaster1991: maybe you could tell me who you targeted? I happen to know the roles of some players, so that'd be good enough

(11:38:01 AM) hextator: obviously we targeted radiant dragon

(11:38:16 AM) chaosmaster1991: I meant with your role

(11:38:24 AM) hextator: oh right

(11:39:08 AM) hextator: I inspected eclipse and jb

(11:39:34 AM) chaosmaster1991: I see... what was your result for eclipse?

(11:39:42 AM) hextator: same thing she posted

(11:39:45 AM) hextator: kinda defeated the purpose

(11:40:00 AM) chaosmaster1991: well, that's true I guess

(11:40:50 AM) hextator: obviously you want to tell me something

(11:40:55 AM) hextator: I am pretty sure I already know what it is

(11:41:15 AM) chaosmaster1991: I happen to be a member of the Antagonistic Individuals

(11:41:22 AM) hextator: of course

(11:41:41 AM) hextator: but just to confirm, can you tell me who one of your team mates is?

(11:42:06 AM) hextator: we can't afford any more crossfire

(11:42:11 AM) chaosmaster1991: asking a bit much are we?

(11:42:22 AM) hextator: I understand, yeah I don't want to tell you my team mates either

(11:42:37 AM) hextator: because of later in the game...was worth a try though haha

(11:42:52 AM) chaosmaster1991: I want to suggest that we team up to kill all the townies first

(11:42:56 AM) hextator: obviously

(11:43:01 AM) hextator: so anyway, kill life tonight, and we'll kill haze

(11:43:04 AM) hextator: don't fuck this up

(11:43:16 AM) hextator: also, I'm going to inspect you just to be sure

(11:43:24 AM) hextator: >:3

(11:43:25 AM) chaosmaster1991: that's fine

(11:43:42 AM) hextator: PM me if anything comes up

(11:43:48 AM) chaosmaster1991: I'll hear from you at the end of the cycle

[spoiler=Strawman]

I don't trust you fully, but the town's getting on my case. I'm an Antagonistic Individual. Who else claimed to you?

Dear Strawman the SawmanShaman,

You are James Bond.

A suave British spy, you can seduce any woman and ambush any opponent.

During a cycle you may reply to your role PM with “Cycle X – Threaten <user1>, <user2>” You will force <user1> to vote for <user2> during the following cycle. If <user1> does not vote for <user2> you will take them out with your trusty silenced Walther PPK. This action has priority over the lynch.

You are allied with the Antagonistic Individuals. You win if the Antagonistic Individuals eliminate all other factions.

So anyway, ##Vote: Anouleth, protect me etc.

[Haze]

Just FYI, Anouleth did that at my request. Don't vote him.

Edit - In fact, here:

[spoiler=Convo with Anouleth]<Anouleth> hello

<Haze> Hi

<Anouleth> Obviam fessed up to being mafia

<Anouleth> I pretended to be mafia to try and get him to give me some more information

<Haze> Do tell

<Anouleth> this is quite long

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> are you mafia

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> no

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> >_O

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> you sure

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> if you're dishonest and it fucks your team over it's all on you

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> well

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> I suppose if you're going to die anyway...

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> we might as well take the opportunity

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> what opportunity

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> expound

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> to team up

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> to get the two teams working together

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> brilliant

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> but first I need to know the name of one of your team mates

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> after all, we will be down two members once you're gone

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> and don't say radiant dragon, that won't work

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> well, radiant dragon obviously was a teammate

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> surely you have another one

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> now it's just me and balcerzak

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> crap

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> why?

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> don't give me that shit

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> you know why

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> the teams are 3 each

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> at least, we had three people on our team

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> I just assumed it was the same for you people

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> don't fuck with me anouleth

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> or what?

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> you'll get lynched and die?

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> or I'll know you're fucking with me, duh

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> well, I'm not fucking with you

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> you just said

<Anouleth> <TheHecks_in_God_Gundam> ah never mind

<Anouleth> <Anouleth> what?

<Anouleth> so yeah, he rumbled me

<Anouleth> dunno how

<Haze> Hm

<Anouleth> worth a try, I guess

<Haze> Oh no, that was very interesting

<Haze> Good work

<Haze> Have you told Life?

<Anouleth> he hasn't been online

<Haze> Alright

<Haze> I'll pass it on in a pm

Edited March 10, 2011 by Haze

[Aleph]

I fail to see how that makes you or him any less suspicious

[Balcerzak]

##Unvote

##Vote Strawman the Shaman

Edited March 10, 2011 by Balcerzak

[Haze]

Sorry I'm still less suspicious than the guy who the claimed Inspector says is scum and then announced in BIG LETTERS that they are scum.

It's also interesting to note that your outings only show the two remaining Antagonistic Individuals, whereas you are accused of being a Pretty Unpleasent Guy. So I suspect you're just trying to get rid of the town leadership and your opposing scum in one fell swoop.

[Aleph]

Nice cover story, but I'm pretty sure it's just you and Life and some other guy as Pretty Unpleasant and you're having a field day pinning this shit on me. Of course you wouldn't tell me you're Pretty Unpleasant if you made the fake.

Also why would Pretty Unpleasant claim to Pretty Unpleasant, fake or otherwise?

[Haze]

I didn't say they would, did I? I just said you outed two Antagonistic Individuals.

[Aleph]

What's this about getting rid of leadership, anyway? None of the people in my list of who claimed to me included you or Life so why are you so scared?

[Tables]

##Vote: Obivam

Maybe I've lost my mafia touch recently, but something about Life's claim still seems fishy to me. But I guess the inspector has checked him, so... hopefully I'm just getting paranoid.

[riariadne]

My question for you, Obviam, is why Anouleth? I might be totally missing the point here, but doesn't SSS kind of look scummier?

As for you, Haze. He claimed Pretty Unpleasant guy. If he isn't, why on earth would the actual Pretty Unpleasant Guys claim to him? If he is, why on earth would he out his teammates? That doesn't make sense.

Unvote for now. I'd like to see your reasonings explained a bit better before I can feel sure about who I'm voting.

Edited March 10, 2011 by Reinfleche

[Haze]

This:

(11:42:22 AM) hextator: I understand, yeah I don't want to tell you my team mates either

(11:42:37 AM) hextator: because of later in the game...was worth a try though haha

(11:42:52 AM) chaosmaster1991: I want to suggest that we team up to kill all the townies first

(11:42:56 AM) hextator: obviously

(11:43:01 AM) hextator: so anyway, kill life tonight, and we'll kill haze

(11:43:04 AM) hextator: don't fuck this up

(11:43:16 AM) hextator: also, I'm going to inspect you just to be sure

(11:43:24 AM) hextator: >:3

(11:43:25 AM) chaosmaster1991: that's fine

(11:43:42 AM) hextator: PM me if anything comes up

(11:43:48 AM) chaosmaster1991: I'll hear from you at the end of the cycle

[Haze]

@Obviam: I'm not scared of you in the slightest. Odds are I'm dead tonight anyway.

@Rein: I never said they would.

[Aleph]

It's called acting; you should know because you're really good at it.

As for Anouleth, he just happened to be the one who claimed to me first. Any of them are a good vote as far as I can tell.

[Life]

How about this to placate the town?

First off, Xeld is an idiot. He just sold out the entire other mafia. I guess this really is going to end with a town win.

Next point. Thanks to dumbass Xeld, we now have a bunch of lynch targets which are basically confirmed. Keep your votes on Xeld for now. If he flips townie, we lynch everyone else. By then, at least one of Haze/I will have died and PROVEN that we're innocent. Probably Haze simply because I've asked the Doc to sit on my ass as long as possible.

That sound fair?

[Zkirsche]

##Unvote

##Vote: SSS

This is getting too fishy for my liking.

edit: unbolded

Edited March 10, 2011 by Kevin

[riariadne]

I'm not seeing why he'd out the Antagonistic Individuals if he was mafia, though. He could just kill them later. The mafia would be better off working together at first. Of course, then he could be "bussing" them with less fear, because they technically wouldn't be his teammates.

I'm also not so sure about why we're taking for granted the Inspector is accurate. Right now we're ignoring the option of "Inspector is lying and you're all town". Or maybe inspector is mafia A and Obviam's Mafia B and inspector's trying to look town. Or maybe Inspector's bussing Obviam. Or maybe Inspector's mafia A and Life and Haze are mafia B and Obviam's town. Or maybe Inspector's Town and Life and Haze are Mafia A and Obviam is Mafia B. Or maybe both Inspector and Life and Haze are Mafia A and Obviam's mafia B (or maybe town). Or maybe all of them are town and there was some sort of driver screwup or something.

tl;dr There are a lot of possibilities. I think it would probably be a good idea to consider them all at least a little bit, no matter how unlikely.

@Life: Hmm... Fair enough, I guess. Vote Obviam... again.

Edited March 10, 2011 by Reinfleche