Loki Laufeyson Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Sothe is one of the best characters in the game. Part 1 is the only time i find Sothe to be worth anything. After that, Heather all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Part 1 is the only time i find Sothe to be worth anything. After that, Heather all the way. Sothe's part 1 is better than anything Heather has to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) Depends for me. Heather is a lot more fun to use, and isn't painful to level (Sothe is low priority when I play FE10, Nolan/Micaiah/whoever else I'm promoting all come first. So I've had a couple 0x/01 Sothes by Part 4. However, Sothe is a good unit on a team with... not so good units, and he can reliably kill stuff. Heather's damage output isn't too fabulous, and she joins on a team full of good characters. Edited November 2, 2011 by Komatsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Sothe has part 1 plus he can do decently in part 3 against laguz. Heather... has... utitility stealing for part 2/3 definately Sothe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ercdouken Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Heather is infinity times better than Sothe because she's got boobs and she wants to get in Nephenee's pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Heather is infinity times better than Sothe because she's got boobs and she wants to get in Nephenee's pants. Hm...I'm afraid I may have to change my vote. This logic has no flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandjackal Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Heather is infinity times better than Sothe because she's got boobs and she wants to get in Nephenee's pants. Hm...I'm afraid I may have to change my vote. This logic has no flaws. http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=5343327 That being said, Sothe. Hot midriff-showing hero of a rebellion that actually does productive things>Blatant fanservice that doesn't do anything actually productive. I have to be objective because being bi allows me such a privilege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Heather is infinity times better than Sothe because she's got boobs and she wants to get in Nephenee's pants. And she doesn't guard who is possibly the most Mary-Su-- *shot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ercdouken Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Silly grandjackal, Nephenee does have pants. They are under her skirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) Depends for me. Heather is a lot more fun to use, and isn't painful to level (Sothe is low priority when I play FE10, Nolan/Micaiah/whoever else I'm promoting all come first. So I've had a couple 0x/01 Sothes by Part 4. However, Sothe is a good unit on a team with... not so good units, and he can reliably kill stuff. Heather's damage output isn't too fabulous, and she joins on a team full of good characters. 1) Fun is subjective...however, its ways are respectable. 2) If a good unit is on a team full of not so good units, then the good unit has an advantage. 3) If a unit joins a team full of good characters, then that character, even if it's good or not good, has a high chance of being overshadowed by the other good characters. Edited November 4, 2011 by Quintessence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Sothe wants to protect the Mary Sue from corruption and taboo's. Heather wants to corrupt the Mary sue with protection and taboo's. Definitely Heather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollocles Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I always choose Heather!! I love her . Her couple with Nephenee is absolutly gorgeous!! Personaly I always train her. I don't know if it's the case with you but my Heather often has a decent magie so i use also magic Card with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Jim Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) Sothe is better, without a doubt. For one, his combat is actually helpful during the DB maps(actually the second best out of your dudes and only usurped by Volug), when the only other DB units worth a damn(other than obvious temporary Jeigans)are Nolan, Jill, Eddie, and Volug. As well, he's the only unit in the DB able to use a Beast Killer, very useful considering the DB fights in laguz heavy maps in part 3. Heather's combat is just awful compared to your other dudes, and while she's doubling, her damage is subpar at best and her durability is quite bad. While you could say Heather grants you more stuff than Sothe, most of it is superfluous. Like, the only items Heather really gets credit for is the 2-2 Discipline, 2-E Dracoshield, 3-4 Ettard, 3-5 Energy ring, and the 3-E Rescue(the white gem as well, but you can just as easily kill the fucker for it.) Sothe on the other hand, grants you the following: Thani, 1-2 Energy ring, 1-3 Discipline, Beastfoe, 3000G, 1-4 Seraph robe, 2 Master seals, Parity, Vantage, and 1-E Speedwings. Edited November 5, 2011 by darkandroid125 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M. Gei Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Sothe is better, without a doubt. For one, his combat is actually helpful during the DB maps(actually the second best out of your dudes and only usurped by Volug), when the only other DB units worth a damn(other than obvious temporary Jeigans)are Nolan and Volug. As well, he's the only unit in the DB able to use a Beast Killer, very useful considering the DB fights in laguz heavy maps in part 3. Heather's combat is just awful compared to your other dudes, and while she's doubling, her damage is subpar at best and her durability is quite bad. While you could say Heather grants you more stuff than Sothe, most of it is superfluous. Like, the only items Heather really gets credit for is the 2-2 Discipline, 2-E Dracoshield, 3-4 Ettard, 3-5 Energy ring, and the 3-E Rescue(the white gem as well, but you can just as easily kill the fucker for it.) Sothe on the other hand, grants you the following: Thani, 1-2 Energy ring, 1-3 Discipline, Beastfoe, 3000G, 1-4 Seraph robe, 2 Master seals, Parity, Vantage, and 1-E Speedwings. So suddenly, Jill (and Eddy and Aran on NM or lower, I guess) don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy_One Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Sothe is 'better' for being a early-game jeigan while Heather's main use is stealing things while Shinon (or someone) disarms in part 3. That being said, I hate Sothe for multiple reasons (getting Micaiah, general jeigan hate, and such) while I like Heather a lot more for overall character design and intended use. Sothe is just another jeigan in the long run who doesn't do anything unique while Heather is essentual for disarm/steal, which I think is pretty damn cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) Like, the only items Heather really gets credit for is the 2-2 Discipline, 2-E Dracoshield, 3-4 Ettard, 3-5 Energy ring, and the 3-E Rescue(the white gem as well, but you can just as easily kill the fucker for it.) Sothe on the other hand, grants you the following: Thani, 1-2 Energy ring, 1-3 Discipline, Beastfoe, 3000G, 1-4 Seraph robe, 2 Master seals, Parity, Vantage, and 1-E Speedwings. If I'm not wrong you're missing a master seal that can be stolen from a 1-5 soldier, physic/recover staves from 4-P bishops as well as purge/shine that are useful for Micaiah. Edited November 4, 2011 by Quintessence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 But Thani has more might than Shine (8 vs 7), so why would she need a Shine in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Sothe is 'better' for being a early-game jeigan while Heather's main use is stealing things while Shinon (or someone) disarms in part 3. That being said, I hate Sothe for multiple reasons (getting Micaiah, general jeigan hate, and such) while I like Heather a lot more for overall character design and intended use. Sothe is just another jeigan in the long run who doesn't do anything unique while Heather is essentual for disarm/steal, which I think is pretty damn cool. Sothe falls short as a combat unit in Part 4 sure, but he even then, he is still miles better than Heather who has a 25% growth in strength, so she's unlikely to deal more damage than Sothe. Also you spelled essential wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Like, the only items Heather really gets credit for is the 2-2 Discipline, 2-E Dracoshield, 3-4 Ettard, 3-5 Energy ring, and the 3-E Rescue(the white gem as well, but you can just as easily kill the fucker for it.) Sothe on the other hand, grants you the following: Thani, 1-2 Energy ring, 1-3 Discipline, Beastfoe, 3000G, 1-4 Seraph robe, 2 Master seals, Parity, Vantage, and 1-E Speedwings. you forgot all the items heather can steal thanks to disarm, as well as the bolting. But Thani has more might than Shine (8 vs 7), so why would she need a Shine in the first place? Laura can't use Thani. Sothe falls short as a combat unit in Part 4 sure, but he even then, he is still miles better than Heather who has a 25% growth in strength, so she's unlikely to deal more damage than Sothe. Also you spelled essential wrong. with a bit of smart used Bexp, both will cap everything. basically, it seems like everyone here agrees. Sothe is best for combat, Heather is best for what rogues are supposed to do; stealing your opponent's treasures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) But Thani has more might than Shine (8 vs 7), so why would she need a Shine in the first place? Well if you are goign to be using her, and she becomes good *gasp*, 90 uses never really seem to be enough for me... And Thani + micaiah (speed atleast 24/25 before promotion) + Speed wing in 4-E, equals awesome miccy for the first map. Edited November 5, 2011 by SlayerX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Laura can't use Thani. Most people don't use Laura much after Part 1, so it makes little difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 you forgot all the items heather can steal thanks to disarm, as well as the bolting. Lol @ Heather ever stealing a Bolting, and then the Bolting actually being significant. Money is abundant enough in this game that Disarm/Steal is rather worthless and not nearly reliable enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) But Thani has more might than Shine (8 vs 7), so why would she need a Shine in the first place? For starters, there's the same reason why Marth, Roy, Eliwood, and Eirika all need weapons aside from Rapiers among other things involving rare Prf rank weapons that don't have limitless durability like Falchion and Ragnell both have. Secondly, someone might want to raise Micaiah's weapon rank easily. Edited November 5, 2011 by Little Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Also, Shine has 10 Crit. ...That's pretty much meaningless but it's still something that you might want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 For starters, there's the same reason why Marth, Roy, Eliwood, and Eirika all need weapons aside from Rapiers among other things involving rare Prf rank weapons that don't have limitless durability like Falchion and Ragnell both have. Those examples that you cited have 28, 50, 40, and 40 uses, respectively. Micaiah has 90 uses of Thani to last her for the entire game. Now, I can understand the edge cases where someone wants to level her up to 20/20/20 or something, but for even moderate use, 90 uses of Thani should be able to last her through the entire game. Secondly, someone might want to raise Micaiah's weapon rank easily. Weapon rank is not a problem when Thani ties Valaura in MT and Valaura doesn't appear until like 3 maps before the end of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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