Tryhard Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 tbh i didn't say i wanted classic removed myself but even if i did i highly doubt IS would listen to me only when I paid for that gaiden remake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Read my edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 There’s nothing that gets me more worked up than Fire Emblem =( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) you're more likely to stop playing than you are to spend 8 hours on a chapter really. if you die to ambush spawns, that isn't a rewarding usage of your time if you make it 3/4 of the way through a chapter to die to something that you didn't see coming for example, yes it is an extraordinary example because ambush spawns are universally hated but there is a reason that they are so, even if you're likely to know about them the second time through. it is hard to be consistently perfect in strategy, and you will make some mistakes every map, and perhaps get very unlucky as well. In normal cases, this is why the mila turnwheel was in echoes. it's probably more rewarding to actually let go of your perception that every character needs to live but no-one seems to want to do that when playing casually. there's also the other side of being like me playing FE7 and using savestates despite classic being the only mode. The savestates are saving me "time", but there is no tension because I can simply reload after any death. Even if my strategies are sound throughout, there is probably at least some instances of this happening eventually depending on difficulty. Edited June 27, 2018 by Edgelord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) The tension is still there if you reset when units die. I play FE7 without save states and there is tension. I have to be carefull. If I’m not careful, I’m punished. i rarely reset because I’m careful. I don’t understand what’s hard to get. There’s absoltely NO challenge in Fire Emblem on casual mode. NO challenge at all. It completely kills the game. It’s literally brain dead. You can play the game as if you were a literal retard and win. If play on classic and you reset when a unit dies, you’re adding more game over conditions. A game with more game over conditions is harder. Edited June 27, 2018 by Nobody Arguing about fire emblem makes me extremely angry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) and i need to reload from savestate rarely, but the outcome is slightly different: you have to replay the entire chapter for what may just be one mistake, and I continue from midway through the chapter (in-game battle saves are another example). no challenge is phoenix mode, you can at least still lose via lord dying in casual afaik in fact, there is the same number of lose conditions, you are just imposing your own if you restart when your units die in classic. that's up to you. technically, you could also restart if your units "die" in casual, because you lose them for the remainder of the chapter, but obviously the incentive to restart is much lower than permadeath, I can't deny that. i don't care to play casual mode, i'm just playing devil's advocate. this is also not denying that casual mode is indeed easier because you don't need to worry about your not-lords getting critted, or just running them out into a group of enemies without worry. Edited June 27, 2018 by Edgelord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) this is why mila's turnwheel is a nice mechanic because it's like playing casual mode on classic but not, and it's also optional. it's also limited (though tbf it gives you more uses than necessary) and can't be exploited in the same way casual mode can be to overcome chapters (i.e throwing characters at the enemies even if they should "die")Â imo. in general, I think mila's turnwheel is a better mechanic then casual mode. Edited June 27, 2018 by Edgelord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyFireMage Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Mila's Turnwheel the real MVP I find it hard to complete FE games now because resetting when a character gets offed is annoying but continuing without them feels like a giant blemish on my playthrough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) Sry Acacia, but today I hope for a high loss Mexico's. Alternative stay strong South Korea! Edited June 27, 2018 by Hecatia Lapislazuli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 BOOOOMMMMM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterIceTeaPeach Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Auf Wiedersehen! Now they're even on last place... hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I don't really want brazil to lose, I just wish people were less noisy =( I can know the score of the game without even watching it, it's really fucking annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 also, sorry @Edgelord and @Pull My Devil Trigger I think I went to far when arguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 it's cool, i'm never gonna be upset over fire emblem these days tbh i kind of want serbia to come back so this tweet gloating over germany's departure will be sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanes Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Acacia Sgt Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 The Champion's Curse is real... so does the Fifth Match one, depending on who we face for the next match. Pft, looking at the dates, it will fall on my birthday... 39 minutes ago, This boi uses Nino said: I win. Oh vaya, un connacional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) the guy who disabled youtube comments Edited June 27, 2018 by Edgelord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Devil Trigger Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Nobody said: also, sorry @Edgelord and @Pull My Devil Trigger I think I went to far when arguing. lol its fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeDusk Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 so much edelgard also shezzy your sig depresses me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Clearly, the lesson so far has been to fear the extra minutes. How many goals there that have changed the outcome of a match... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Devil Trigger Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 why is camilla so good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Devil Trigger Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 it's like they thought "let's make one of your sisters the worst character possible" "but let's make her broken as fuck" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 she also wants to bang you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Devil Trigger Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 please bear my child Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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