RNG Princess Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) Sophia: 1/10 Poor Sophia she's stuck with horrible durability and horrible everything else. Her only hope is chipping from afar, she can't do anything else and her hit is bad but maybe she might hit something if she takes a secret book. She's too costly and is killed by everything I can't tell who is worse between her or Wendy but at least Flux has 70hit unlike Javelin with 55hit so I think Sophia might be > Wendy. 1 point for the guiding ring, at least keeping her alive brings that to the table. Edited April 13, 2012 by Queen_Emelina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottlegnomes Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Sophia: 1/10 Poor Sophia she's stuck with horrible durability and horrible everything else. Her only hope is chipping from afar, she can't do anything else and her hit is bad but maybe she might hit something if she takes a secret book. She's too costly and is killed by everything I can't tell who is worse between her or Wendy but at least Flux has 70hit unlike Javelin with 55hit so I think Sophia might be > Wendy. 1 point for the guiding ring, at least keeping her alive brings that to the table. Wendy has 62 hit with a javelin. Enemies in her map have about 15-20 avoid, low being 3 or so and high being a thief at 33, ignoring the boss. So she'll have about 40-45 hit on most things. Sophia has 75 hit with flux. Enemies in her join chapter have about 25-30 avoid on average. That gives her a 45-50 hit rate. Lots better than Wendy 0.1/10 I may not have played this on HM, but I have on NM, and even there she has no redeeming qualities. But I don't believe in giving any unit a zero based on contributions. Even Sophia can distract one enemy from attacking another unit. But then the bias of hating her because you have to protect her in fow and desert just to get the true ending. So 0/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) 0.5/10 Only good thing coming out of her is a free guiding ring that only she can get, hence the half-point. Otherwise, she is all kinds of horrible. Edited April 13, 2012 by BLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titamon Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) I don't get why people think it's so hard to protect Sophia on the desert chapter... I mean, I used base level Thany on that map for ferrying, and I had no issues keeping her alive... Edited April 13, 2012 by Psycho Silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 0/10 good thing we have Niime You'd better be changing that before Integrity yells at you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 0/10 good thing we have Niime *crumples up a ball of paper* *shoots in in the trashcan* Because I foresee that happening to this rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 You'd better be changing that before Integrity yells at you. I don't know if I can be assed to care that much about a Sophia thread. ;/ still, yeah, it should probably be changed kai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 still, yeah, it should probably be changed kai Aw, you're no fun :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 We are assuming that the character we're rating get used throughout the entire game, and don't eventually end up on the bench (regardless of how likely that is) right? If so my vote stays, if not I'll probably drop it. Also my Niime vote will raise if this goes up too. Eclipsing walls is pretty damn useful with their stupidly high amounts of HP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 1/10 Her stats are too poor to do anything but distract sleep staves and use the wait command, but funnily enough even those are pretty useful in Chapter 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 In theory one could train Wendy with triangle attack (only in chapter 6 of course) like a level and then get a rare chip hit to an archer. Sophia can't even manage that must her only redeeming quality is her pretty face. 0/10 and in the case you can't tell that includes entire positive bias point That's Chapter 8. .1/10 i believe the fact that she gets a guiding ring puts her above wendy Plus getting u Forblaze. That's a bonus. And saying she's worse than Wendy? They both have combat that is about as irredeemable as is possible. Minute differences like Sophia hits Res and Wendy has Triangle Attack don't matter. But getting that Guiding Ring is a hundred times more utility than Wendy will ever provide. Growing her well. At least she won't be prone to status staves and long ranged Mag. >=) Sophia: 1/10 Poor Sophia she's stuck with horrible durability and horrible everything else. Her only hope is chipping from afar, she can't do anything else and her hit is bad but maybe she might hit something if she takes a secret book. She's too costly and is killed by everything I can't tell who is worse between her or Wendy but at least Flux has 70hit unlike Javelin with 55hit so I think Sophia might be > Wendy. 1 point for the guiding ring, at least keeping her alive brings that to the table. And what's worse is that other than having one in Chapter 8, Chapter 18A. U won't get anymore without the Secret Shop. IS did this on purpose to throw some crap units on u and with some of them having bad Skill (Which normally is never an issue to most of these games). Because of the shortage of Skill Books that they have in this game which Gonzy needs very badly in the NM. As well as Sophia. ----- There is one way to make her useable. Wear out the bosses Spear in Chapter 15 and then have Sophia use him as a punching bag. Advised to get her to 10 then promote. For favoritism, get her to 20 and she will at least have decent skill and con after class change. She then becomes a great Mag sponge. =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 There is one way to make her useable. Wear out the bosses Spear in Chapter 15 and then have Sophia use him as a punching bag. Advised to get her to 10 then promote. For favoritism, get her to 20 and she will at least have decent skill and con after class change. She then becomes a great Mag sponge. =) Do you even pay any attention to what you're typing? How can she train on someone who she can't even hit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Dude I got her to 10 once VERY painstakingly as a part of my fem+roy only run rules it was not pretty and I didn't want to blow a ring on that piece of crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Do you even pay any attention to what you're typing? How can she train on someone who she can't even hit? Get desparate with RNG abuse after giving her the Secret Book. >=) Either that, or have to go through some turns just to get her to hit. ;_; Edited April 14, 2012 by リンダ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 RNG abuse really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Dude I got her to 10 once VERY painstakingly as a part of my fem+roy only run rules it was not pretty and I didn't want to blow a ring on that piece of crap I get her to 20 all the time in non ranked runs. It's not like ur being penalized in your tactics rank much. Since it isn't demanding like it is in FE7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) look I don't want a unit with single digit in every stat except mag/res/hp when I have so many better options she's just a piece of baggage I don't care if you want to use her but I am not bothering with a unit with terrible stats, needing RNG abuse to even get hits in more often than not, and is after a HEAVILY contested promotion item. Having to buy Clarine a ring in C16 on that run was bad enough as it is :/ Edited April 14, 2012 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) look I don't want a unit with single digit in every stat except mag/res/hp when I have so many better options she's just a piece of baggage I don't care if you want to use her but I am not bothering with a unit with terrible stats, needing RNG abuse to even get hits in more often than not, and is after a HEAVILY contested promotion item. Having to buy Clarine a ring in C16 was bad enough as it is. Only thing that hurts about ur work into her after class change is the start in E staves. .___. At least she can heal alot with Heal staves. =) Edited April 14, 2012 by リンダ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M. Gei Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I get her to 20 all the time in non ranked runs. It's not like ur being penalized in your tactics rank much. Since it isn't demanding like it is in FE7. That's nice and all, but... no one cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 probably RNG abused her level ups too from the sounds of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Get desparate with RNG abuse after giving her the Secret Book. >=) Either that, or have to go through some turns just to get her to hit. ;_; I guess I win because you don't have any counter argument (RNG abuse doesn't count). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I'm just gonna throw in that Sophia is still a pain to raise, even with RNG abuse. Her bases are just too awful, and her growths don't do her any justice. Just let her get the guiding ring, forget about her, and wait for Niime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBHood217 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I thought Sophia was the Nino of FE6. I thought wrong. use the wait command Don't you mean the "End" command? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 "Wait" because Sophia kinda has to move to get to that guiding ring and you can't just drop her on it She'll have to wait on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onmi Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Plus getting u Forblaze. That's a bonus. "Takes you to X" is not valid justification for a character being rated. She gets you Forblaze in the same way Lilina gets you Durandal, or Sue gets you to Sacae, It's completely irrelevant to her performance as a unit. She's not good for support , she's not good for combat. She is not good. I RNG abused my Zealot to this, you think it means anything? Hell if we factor in boss abuse WENDY is easier to train, because she can hit 20 on her Debut chapter so long as you have steel/silver lances while she tinks her weapon level up. Does this make Wendy good? Fuck no. she's still shit. It means nothing you're still investing a tonne of time for a shit unit. and that's what Sophia is. Grade. A. Shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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