Only My Unit Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 You're a little late, Pocky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) I think you meant the Wo Dao, right? Because only Lyn can use the Sol Katti. Not in this game. Edited May 31, 2012 by Little Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momo Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) I think you meant the Wo Dao, right? Because only Lyn can use the Sol Katti. I mean in this game, the Sol Katti is a weapon you can get. edit: god damn it little al Edited May 31, 2012 by Momo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 No, FE13!Sol Katti. And they COULD give her a skill to use her and it wouldn't make it pointless because other people would lack that skill. Like Dark Blessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) I think you meant the Wo Dao, right? Because only Lyn can use the Sol Katti. The site says the Sol Katti is for Myrmidons and Swordmasters. Edited May 31, 2012 by BrightBow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Not in this game. I mean in this game, the Sol Katti is a weapon you can get. Ah. I guess that's what I get for trying to avoid spoilers for this game. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) And they COULD give her a skill to use her and it wouldn't make it pointless because other people would lack that skill. Like Dark Blessing. Considering the fact that the only other weapon that can be used by the Swordfighter class family happens to be one of the only two storm swords in this game thus far, I would think it would be even more pointless for a skill like what you describe to be implemented for sword users. Edited May 31, 2012 by Little Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonZ Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 No, FE13!Sol Katti. And they COULD give her a skill to use her and it wouldn't make it pointless because other people would lack that skill. Like Dark Blessing. Dark Blessing gives access to an entire weapon type. This Sol Katti skill would give only Sol Katti. Hardly comparable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 But it would allow her to have the SK as a non-SM. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Maybe they'll make her a Myrmidon instead, since that's "different" from Swordmaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 But it would allow her to have the SK as a non-SM. :/ It doesn't matter because: Considering the fact that the only other weapon that can be used by the Swordfighter class family happens to be one of the only two storm swords in this game thus far, I would think it would be even more pointless for a skill like what you describe to be implemented for sword users. Especially since Dark tomes are numerous enough to count as it's own magic type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) The biggest reason she can't really be anything other than Swordmaster is the Sol Katti being limited only to them. They probably could make it so that she could use it as an Assassin or Bow Knight, but then there'd be no point in making it limited to begin with. Well, Inverse and Miccy has that skill that lets them use Dark Magic outside of Dark Mage/Sorc, and while Micaiah starts out as Dark Mage anyway, Inverse is a Dark Peg that uses dark tomes because she can. So it's not implausible. Might be nice, actually, since there's so many sword classes too so Lyn could have a wide reclass range into any sword-wielding class and access Sol Katti and Amatsu. It's not like you can't remove that skill either when she learns something better and just leave her as a SM. Edited May 31, 2012 by Fat Bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only My Unit Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 So what would that leave Renha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 What do you mean? Rehna's a SM to start with and he's Spotpass anyway. Not interfering with DLC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momo Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Well, Inverse and Miccy has that skill that lets them use Dark Magic outside of Dark Mage/Sorc, and while Micaiah starts out as Dark Mage anyway, Inverse is a Dark Peg that uses dark tomes because she can. So it's not implausible. Might be nice, actually, since there's so many sword classes too so Lyn could have a wide reclass range into any sword-wielding class and access Sol Katti and Amatsu. It's not like you can't remove that skill either when she learns something better and just leave her as a SM. But then it's a question of why make Lyn's sword only for a specific class set, and then have her not even be the class? Giving her a skill would just be fixing a problem that didn't need to exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only My Unit Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Nothing, really. I was kind of wondering what they were going to do to make Renha special. I think I heard (he?) appeared in the story, but I could have just had another weird dream again. What'll seperate him/her from the other 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdok Dracul Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 If you paid attention, the statement you're attempting to bash was Mr. Dracul agreeing with assuming that "all girls like dresses" is sexist. I just wanted to bring this to the attention of those who so far have replied to me Hm... Mr. Dracul... I like that... I don't see any UFs. God forbid a PRINCESS get married. Never happened before. And it's totally not like she did in any of her support endings (you morons). And last time I checked, getting married doesn't make a woman a simpering foolish little girl who can't pull her weight in battle. So remove the sticks from your collective asses fans. And even though your post was only really significant to a minority of the complainers, you are still, sir, on my Awesome List. I don't really have one of those but don't tell anyone. Anyway, I don't like arguments based on opinion, because nobody ever stops and tries to come to an agreement (not just on this site, or just on the internet, but in pretty much every non-fictional situation as far as I've personally been able to tell) so I'm running away like a little wimpy coward this is my last post on this particular thread (and possibly on any thread related to any female DLC's design). Unless I change my mind. Might still read it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esme Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) Uh... Wow. I really didn't expect Eirika to have a bride design. I was thinking that she might be more... I dunno, cavalier-ish I guess. Still, she looks really neat and that dress is fucking awesome. I hope we get a Housewife class next Edited May 31, 2012 by Esme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I hope we get a Housewife class next! That's the promotion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 They decided to make Sol Katti, formerly Lyn's personal sword, into a weapon only usable by Swordmasters. They decided to make Celice a Swordmaster when he didn't have to be. They could have changed either of those two and allowed Lyn to use the Sol Katti in her starting DLC class with no problems. But they didn't. Lyn is not going to appear as an Assassin or a Bow Knight and lose initial access to the Sol Katti completely unnecessarily. And no, a special skill is not a possibility. There are currently no skills that are restricted to only DLC characters, or even to SpotPass and DLC characters. All the skills are available in some form to permanent characters. And no, don't say Dark Blessing. Inverse has been confirmed as playable, so while it's not restricted yet, it is clear that it will not be restricted in the long term. Now, what does this mean for the future of DLC? Well, let's take a look. In the two vs. sets, both have had their second map involve a character in a new class emphasizing some three-weapon combination featuring a previously absent two-weapon combination. We have Alm with swords/axes/tomes, and we have Eirika with swords/bows/staffs. The obvious final combination as a gender-neutral class to secure the final two two-weapon combinations is lance/bow/tome. Now, who are the candidates? Well, we have three character DLC maps remaining. They will contain Ike, Sigurd, and an FE7 rep: there is no question of this. Now, who could plausibly take on this final DLC class? Only two possible characters actually use lances: Sigurd and Eliwood. Then there's the question of which of the two would give up their specialty in swords for the class. The evidence lies in the weapons Eliwood's Steelsword and Sigurd's Steellance. I would not expect Eliwood to give up the sword bearing his name, while Sigurd could keep his lance. So I suspect we will see Sigurd taking on this final DLC class for LvD2, a mounted gender-neutral lance/bow/tome class. While not a perfect transcription of the original, I think that until we get more information, we can call this class Master Knight. It all fits, too: like Alm, Sigurd gets a heavily modified class from his original game. This third DLC class is a knight, in contrast to Demon Fighter as a fighter class and Bride as a support class. It also fills the remaining void as the only DLC class to use lances, granting access to an under-represented weapon type to all characters. Meanwhile it matches up with Demon Fighter and Bride in sharing one weapon type with each, so that between their DLC classes, all males would have inherent access to all weapon types except staffs, and all females would have inherent access to all weapon types except axes. This array of options would certainly be a plus. So Sigurd will join in LvD2. That leaves the characters joining in RvB3 and LvD3. Ike will of course be present as a Hero. So then we have either Lyn or Eliwood as the FE7 rep. With all this in mind, I'm turning my thoughts back to Eliwood. With Sigurd as a Master Knight, Eliwood can be a Paladin without being redundant with any other redesigned characters, while Lyn cannot take on her one suitable ingame class without being redundant with Celice. As for the arrangement, I suspect Eliwood will join at the end of RvB3, while Ike will join in LvD3. This leaves each game as having one representative available in each of the first three sets reasonably accessible ingame, while the duplicates from their respective games, Ephraim, Sigurd, and Ike, are reserved for LvD, designed for postgame. In summary, this is my new DLC outline: ST1: Marth - Star Lord ST2: Roy - Mercenary ST3: Micaiah - Dark Mage KvK1: Leaf - Trickster KvK2: Alm - Demon Fighter KvK3: Celice - Swordmaster RvB1: Elincia - Falcon Knight RvB2: Eirika - Bride RvB3: Eliwood - Paladin LvD1: Ephraim - Great Knight LvD2: Sigurd - Master Knight LvD3: Ike - Hero Now, if they keep releasing one character DLC every two weeks, this means we should see the final DLC, starring Ike, announced immediately following Paris's release, to conclude the sets of new maps in seven weeks. Interesting. We should also see more monster DLC, probably one at the 3-star level and one at the 5-star level to complete the set. I suspect these two will have two more non-redesigned characters like Eltoshen, bringing the total number of DLC characters to a sensible 15. Now, I don't know who the third of these characters will be, but I think I know the second. After all, one character has had a weapon bearing his name featured in the game, yet has not so much as made it into a SpotPass team. Just one. Isn't that strange? Yes, I do believe one of the two remaining monster DLCs will feature Othin as a reward. Perhaps all of this is wishful thinking. After all, it's pretty much all things I would want. But it seems to me that IS is being very sensible and consistent with these releases, at least from a gameplay perspective, and this is what fits all of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 What about Hector? He has a weapon and hasn't shown up as a spotpass candidate.(I think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only My Unit Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 (edited) From that pattern, I think they'll release a fifth set for Lyn, Hector and Celica to include all of the lord/main characters. If anyone else is named in the weapons, they'll get Spotpass or Monster DLC versions. Edited June 1, 2012 by Only My Unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 so that between their DLC classes, all males would have inherent access to all weapon types except staffs, and all females would have inherent access to all weapon types except axes. This array of options would certainly be a plus. Maybe it's just me, but I want more guys with staves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only My Unit Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Please don't kill me when I say the only staff guy I can think of is one of the only dudes in Queen's Blade. I only saw gameplay videos of the SRPG. >.< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendaryHero0 Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Do we have confirmation of who did the art for Eirika? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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